[frearsghost]

I suspect Mr Allen is trying to replay the Sheridan trick of scoring more goals than the opposition within the bounds of his 'sustainability' budget i.e. he's cheap. It's a 'wing and a prayer appointment.'

From the Accy board I find:

'Cooky's policy that attack is the best form of defense is failing. You've got to have the right personel. He's used 26 players and it's not working.'

Cook's CV reads 13 wins from over 50+ games and Accrington are playing some awful football according to some of their fans.

I'm reading all the optimistic 'bigging up' of the guy, but for the life of me, I can't see the rationality.

This post has been edited by frearsghost: 25 October 2012 - 09:27 AM

[Misnomer]

frearsghost, on 25 October 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

I suspect Mr Allen is trying to replay the Sheridan trick of scoring more goals than the opposition within the bounds of his 'sustainability' budget i.e. he's cheap. It's a 'wing and a prayer appointment.'

From the Accy board I find:

'Cooky's policy that attack is the best form of defense is failing. You've got to have the right personel. He's used 26 players and it's not working.'

Cook's CV reads 13 wins from over 50+ games and Accrington are playing some awful football according to some of their fans.

I'm reading all the optimistic 'bigging up' of the guy, but for the life of me, I can't see the rationality.

Just written something similar; i'm utterly perplexed.

[Bonnyman]

frearsghost, on 25 October 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

I suspect Mr Allen is trying to replay the Sheridan trick of scoring more goals than the opposition within the bounds of his 'sustainability' budget i.e. he's cheap. It's a 'wing and a prayer appointment.'

From the Accy board I find:

'Cooky's policy that attack is the best form of defense is failing. You've got to have the right personel. He's used 26 players and it's not working.'

Cook's CV reads 13 wins from over 50+ games and Accrington are playing some awful football according to some of their fans.

I'm reading all the optimistic 'bigging up' of the guy, but for the life of me, I can't see the rationality.

people who are bigging him up are only doing it blindly as he has absolutely no form in the book,as it states on the akky website

sacked by southport
walked out on sligo
walked out on akky

he has imo less pedigree than sheridan

[Misnomer]

Far less than JS....i hope this guy wasn't appointed solely on the game against us and their posltion in the league at that time;that mentallity would be very worrying. If he's as good as some folk are saying on here, he'll have us in the play-off no bother.

[lindo-spireite]

bonnyman, on 25 October 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

people who are bigging him up are only doing it blindly as he has absolutely no form in the book,as it states on the akky website

sacked by southport
walked out on sligo
walked out on akky

he has imo less pedigree than sheridan

I think that the fact a lot of the accrington team have came out and said they're gutted he's leaving stands out. Not very often you get that at this level

[Bonnyman]

lindo-spireite, on 25 October 2012 - 09:42 AM, said:

I think that the fact a lot of the accrington team have came out and said they're gutted he's leaving stands out. Not very often you get that at this level

come off it all players say that,they cant go slagging management off else they could find themselves without a potential job down the line,in a months time they will be complementing the new boss saying how he has brought his own ideas into the club and is doing a good job.

[twistedspire]

bonnyman, on 25 October 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

people who are bigging him up are only doing it blindly as he has absolutely no form in the book,as it states on the akky website

sacked by southport
walked out on sligo
walked out on akky

he has imo less pedigree than sheridan

I think we are all as blind as each other whether you are excited by the appointment or disillusioned by it, no one can really know what qualities he may or may not bring to the job.
I think its a matter of getting behind him and giving him a chance,

[frearsghost]

bonnyman, on 25 October 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

people who are bigging him up are only doing it blindly as he has absolutely no form in the book,as it states on the akky website

sacked by southport
walked out on sligo
walked out on akky

he has imo less pedigree than sheridan

Spot on. On the racecourse 'Honest Frank' would be quoting 50-1.

[Bonnyman]

twistedspire, on 25 October 2012 - 09:52 AM, said:

I think we are all as blind as each other whether you are excited by the appointment or disillusioned by it, no one can really know what qualities he may or may not bring to the job.
I think its a matter of getting behind him and giving him a chance,

obviously as a fan he will have my 100% backing,but as a fan im intrigued into the mindset of the appointment,i want to know more about him ,remember this is an appointment by a club who for the last 18 months have imo made mistake after mistake after mistake regarding our future,it takes incompetance on a large scale to drop circa 2000 off the average crowd in such a small period of time,the club is on catch up and this does not strike me as a quick fix.

[Skywalker]

If you continue to do the same thing, expect the same results.

The Chairman has made what appears to be a bold move in appointing Paul Cook. I think this is quite refreshing and much better than appointing a ‘failed’ out of work Manager.

[born in 1866]

frearsghost, on 25 October 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

I suspect Mr Allen is trying to replay the Sheridan trick of scoring more goals than the opposition within the bounds of his 'sustainability' budget i.e. he's cheap. It's a 'wing and a prayer appointment.'

From the Accy board I find:

'Cooky's policy that attack is the best form of defense is failing. You've got to have the right personel. He's used 26 players and it's not working.'

Cook's CV reads 13 wins from over 50+ games and Accrington are playing some awful football according to some of their fans.

I'm reading all the optimistic 'bigging up' of the guy, but for the life of me, I can't see the rationality.

Why do people keep saying he's cheap?

A six figure compensation settlement is NOT cheap, I then stopped reading the rest of your post because it was probably as innacurate as your opening gambit.

[born in 1866]

Skywalker, on 25 October 2012 - 10:08 AM, said:

If you continue to do the same thing, expect the same results.

The Chairman has made what appears to be a bold move in appointing Paul Cook. I think this is quite refreshing and much better than appointing a 'failed' out of work Manager.

I concur

Damned if you do damned if you don't.

Appoint Tommy Wright and it's a short sighted cheap option and DA is damned
Appoint a well travelled often sacked manager and it's the same old he failed at Wednesday/Bradford/Insert any club name here. And DA is damned
Appoint a young hungry manager that advacates free flowing football and DA is damned.

Well done DA. It is certainly a bold move but a breath of fresh air away from the old "promote from within" or getting a manager thats had the sack more times than Santa

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

frearsghost, on 25 October 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

I suspect Mr Allen is trying to replay the Sheridan trick of scoring more goals than the opposition within the bounds of his 'sustainability' budget i.e. he's cheap. It's a 'wing and a prayer appointment.'

From the Accy board I find:

'Cooky's policy that attack is the best form of defense is failing. You've got to have the right personel. He's used 26 players and it's not working.'

Cook's CV reads 13 wins from over 50+ games and Accrington are playing some awful football according to some of their fans.

I'm reading all the optimistic 'bigging up' of the guy, but for the life of me, I can't see the rationality.

Whilst it's true Cook has questionable pedigree, 'Frears', i'm happy to see what happens.

The Club was going slowly stale, something had to be done, and now it has.

Let's at least see what impact he has and the calibre of his signings before offering critical comments, eh pal?

[Town_Fan]

MDCCCLXVI, on 25 October 2012 - 02:00 PM, said:

Whilst it's true Cook has questionable pedigree, 'Frears', i'm happy to see what happens.

The Club was going slowly stale, something had to be done, and now it has.

Let's at least see what impact he has and the calibre of his signings before offering critical comments, eh pal?

A decision needed to be made one way or the other. I do feel that the club can move on now.

[frearsghost]

born in 1866, on 25 October 2012 - 01:49 PM, said:

Why do people keep saying he's cheap?

A six figure compensation settlement is NOT cheap, I then stopped reading the rest of your post because it was probably as innacurate as your opening gambit.

The clue is in the words 'sustainability budget' operated by the club.

I read your opening gambit of unconditional rapture. I kept on reading, but didn't find any rational or reasoned argument that gave any credence to your opinion. I, therefore, dimissed your contribution as not worth engaging. I was proved right. When debate eventually got going - and what interesting empirical issues have arisen and been mulled over; issues requiring thought, perception and effort - I noticed your contribution was significant by way of it's absence.

'Touche' as they say.

Let's leave it at that.

This post has been edited by frearsghost: 25 October 2012 - 02:41 PM

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

bonnyman, on 25 October 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

people who are bigging him up are only doing it blindly as he has absolutely no form in the book,as it states on the akky website

sacked by southport
walked out on sligo
walked out on akky

he has imo less pedigree than sheridan

There's no point keep going on about it whether anybody agrees with it or not. It's time to move on, support him and give him a chance

[Skywalker]

frearsghost, on 25 October 2012 - 02:37 PM, said:

The clue is in the words 'sustainability budget' operated by the club.

I read your opening gambit of unconditional rapture. I kept on reading, but didn't find any rational or reasoned argument that gave any credence to your opinion. I, therefore, dimissed your contribution as not worth engaging. I was proved right. When debate eventually got going - and what interesting empirical issues have arisen and been mulled over; issues requiring thought, perception and effort - I noticed your contribution was significant by way of it's absence.

'Touche' as they say.

Let's leave it at that.

I prefer the valid points raised by ‘born in 1866’ to your pretentious waffle.

[Town_Fan]

I like the continued use of the phrase "opening gambit". Surely a great name for a tv show.

[marlons curtains]

Town_Fan, on 25 October 2012 - 03:04 PM, said:

I like the continued use of the phrase "opening gambit". Surely a great name for a tv show.

Fred Dineage wasnt it?