[Goku]

We could get the kids to wield flares and shout ultra chants.

[metallilad]

Goku, on 16 September 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

That's cos the small away following were usually on a terrace whereby you could hear absolutely nothing they were singing.

Are we all smoking something very strong today?

I don't do drugs pal, there's no need to post silly little quips up like that to try and get a cheap giggle.

Goku, on 16 September 2012 - 05:14 PM, said:

We could get the kids to wield flares and shout ultra chants.

What?

[Goku]

metallilad, on 16 September 2012 - 05:14 PM, said:

I don't do drugs pal, there's no need to post silly little quips up like that to try and get a cheap giggle.

Maybe it's time to start.

[Johnnyspireite7]

Has anyone got that Gareth Molone fellas phone number, he'd sort it!

[metallilad]

Goku, on 16 September 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

Maybe it's time to start.

Mature. Real mature.
If i'm debating with a 12 year old please let me know.
Cos your just making yourself sound pathetic.

[Goku]

metallilad, on 16 September 2012 - 05:38 PM, said:

Mature. Real mature.
If i'm debating with a 12 year old please let me know.
Cos your just making yourself sound pathetic.

Stop taking everything so seriously, christ

So easily wound up. What's up with you?

This post has been edited by Goku: 16 September 2012 - 05:42 PM

[lindave]

philly8mt, on 16 September 2012 - 12:34 PM, said:

To be fair I thought it was better in the kop than recent matches (I'm sat on row I for what it's worth) .. As for all the noise the kids made in the East stand ??? I didn't hear any of it! Perhaps it's more down to the acoustics in the ground? I can't say I heard much out of our visitors either?!?!?

Perhaps it'll be better if we ever get the corners filled in?

The atmosphere has been a bit naff all season home and away.it,s been hard waiting for the first win and a big factor is everyone has been on edge wondering who we will get for a manager. It has to be someone not already connected with the club who can work with TW. Sammy McIlroy or Robbins would do for me.

[metallilad]

lindave, on 16 September 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

The atmosphere has been a bit naff all season home and away.it,s been hard waiting for the first win and a big factor is everyone has been on edge wondering who we will get for a manager. It has to be someone not already connected with the club who can work with TW. Sammy McIlroy or Robbins would do for me.

I said exactly the same thing yesterday.
The whole club is in limbo at the moment, its showing in the stands aswell.

[philly8mt]

metallilad, on 16 September 2012 - 02:14 PM, said:

Right.
I am the brother he sits with in the east stand and as he's stated already we sit with our kids along with plenty of other families.
It isn't really the ideal place to stand up and chant things like **** on the ******** below or sit down you ****!
What he is saying is that chants and songs have always (yes always) come from the kop. Whatever the club is its
always been the kop.
It is quieter nowadays than it ever has been in the past. Don't get offended, consider it as a rallying call from the previous generation that you need to turn it up a notch or two. That's all.

My boy used to sing "pooh on the staggies below"

So sweeeeeet

[Trigger]

philly8mt, on 16 September 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

My boy used to sing "pooh on the staggies below"

So sweeeeeet

Mine does "we hate the Mansfield in yellow and blue!" I sing when I take him, but I only do it for him. mind you, not takin him tuesday so might have a tipple and open me mouth on the west stand still

[PositiveOmen]

As someone that didn't see much of last season, and saw the first few games of this season.. It felt like there was a cloud over the ground, due to previous demoralising failure.

It's going to take more than one win to do it. But a good performance and 3 points against accrington, and i'm sure you'll start hearing more voices.

[valemadness]

Some of the problem is that the kop may only really pick the song up half way through a verse, so by the time the other stands join in, the kop has finished and then the song dies. Also we only seem to have 3 songs and after singing or dering them 2 or 3 times, people get bored

[SpireRam]

Atkinson thought other wise, he tweeted after the game that the crowd were different class.. Anyway, someone else brought this point about, I sit right in front of Yogi with the drum and the small group who stand up at the back sing from start to finish near enough every game with the odd 2 minute break for HT etc. Us in the middle stood up are doing our job, surely if you're in the KOP you're expected to sing. Us in the middle do, the rest sit there like they don't care and it is frustrating tbh.

[BeastMode]

WhereisBenj, on 16 September 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

Atkinson thought other wise, he tweeted after the game that the crowd were different class.. Anyway, someone else brought this point about, I sit right in front of Yogi with the drum and the small group who stand up at the back sing from start to finish near enough every game with the odd 2 minute break for HT etc. Us in the middle stood up are doing our job, surely if you're in the KOP you're expected to sing. Us in the middle do, the rest sit there like they don't care and it is frustrating tbh.

Unallocated seatin is the only way, cos I dont have a season. Ticket(I work in Plymouth)mist games were surrounded by non singers.. It gets frustrating singin on my own so I tend not to bother..

[Scooby Doo]

Doughnut, on 16 September 2012 - 10:39 AM, said:

Everyone is entitled to chose whether or not to start or join in singing or chanting.

Re your second sentence: Some aren't interested in singing and prefer to just watch the game. They shouldn't be criticised or lambasted for making this choice.

I quite agree but the young uns shouldn't be blamed for not creating an atmosphere is all I am saying.

This post has been edited by C C CFC: 17 September 2012 - 05:56 AM

[Scooby Doo]

spireitetoo, on 16 September 2012 - 11:02 AM, said:

Not that I need to as I've already stated but here goes once again for the folk that only have selective reading,

I have spent my time in the middle of the kop home and away and sung myself voiceless on more occasions than I care to remember, I know sit in the family stand with my young son and brother with his, I dare say both of those will one day move to the kop, but in the mean time it is and always has been the responsibility of the kop to raise the atmosphere, then the other stands join in, not usually the other way round but in recent times it has been the kids in the east family that keep the atmosphere going as they were trying yestdi.

Rubbish, you will always find that the kop is more vociferous but it is not their responsibilty.

[Scooby Doo]

metallilad, on 16 September 2012 - 02:14 PM, said:

Right.
I am the brother he sits with in the east stand and as he's stated already we sit with our kids along with plenty of other families.
It isn't really the ideal place to stand up and chant things like **** on the ******** below or sit down you ****!
What he is saying is that chants and songs have always (yes always) come from the kop. Whatever the club is its always been the kop.
It is quieter nowadays than it ever has been in the past. Don't get offended, consider it as a rallying call from the previous generation that you need to turn it up a notch or two. That's all.

Come on Spireites doesn't contain any bad language and there are other songs also.

[Scooby Doo]

metallilad, on 16 September 2012 - 05:11 PM, said:

I'm not defending him because he's my brother.
I'm defending the fact that you want chants starting in the family stand, making it a hostile area for the little kids that go in there.

Encouraging you team does not have to be hostile.

[born in 1866]

metallilad, on 16 September 2012 - 02:14 PM, said:

Right.
I am the brother he sits with in the east stand and as he's stated already we sit with our kids along with plenty of other families.
It isn't really the ideal place to stand up and chant things like **** on the ******** below or sit down you ****!
What he is saying is that chants and songs have always (yes always) come from the kop. Whatever the club is its always been the kop.
It is quieter nowadays than it ever has been in the past. Don't get offended, consider it as a rallying call from the previous generation that you need to turn it up a notch or two. That's all.

If a more diplomatic approach, like this had been used in the original post then I would have tended to agree and backed the rallying cry for more noise.

But when "Embarrasing" and "You should be ashamed of yourselves" are thrown at them. I came to their defence.

[metallilad]

C C CFC, on 17 September 2012 - 05:46 AM, said:

Encouraging you team does not have to be hostile.

When a bloke in his forties stands up and starts singing in a family stand that has families sat in it one of two things is gonna happen. Either your gonna scare the living s**t out of the kids or your gonna have everybody look at you with utter disgust.
The kids seats are there so families can sit and watch the match in a non hostile enviroment, a bloke standing up and trying to start a song/chant will be unsettling for the kids.
The kids can start one themselves or join in with one but when your a parent the last thing you want is for your child to feel uncomfortable in any way shape or form.
One day you'll understand where I'm coming from on this one. Trust me.