[Town_Fan]

How long do we have to put up with a mangers insecurities costing us the best chance of promiotion for years?

[The Doctor]

Or how long can we hold onto a manager has got us into a great position on the field with players he signed, coaches and continues to develop the club on a shoestring.



some of the absolute drivvel posted on here tonight is not unusual though.

[CFC Forever]

cant understand why roy played folan up front on his own whenour best forward line are on the bench... and roy's said that

This post has been edited by Andy89@CFC: 11 February 2006 - 02:03 PM

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The Doctor, on Feb 11 2006, 05:08 AM, said:

Or how long can we hold onto a manager has got us into a great position on the field with players he signed, coaches and continues to develop the club on a shoestring.



some of the absolute drivvel posted on here tonight is not unusual though.

Yes Doc, you are one of the main contributers mate. Open your eye's come out of the brainwashing,have an out of body experience, see the light brother we have a terminal illness. Tell me are you an MD or some type of shrink Doctor, because you would make an excellent employee for PR for this club.

[Jets Fan]

The Doctor, on Feb 11 2006, 05:08 AM, said:

Or how long can we hold onto a manager has got us into a great position on the field with players he signed, coaches and continues to develop the club on a shoestring.



some of the absolute drivvel posted on here tonight is not unusual though.

Roy has got us into a fantastic position and got top players in, were not disputing that but the point we r trying to get accross is that if hes not careful he will throw it away....well i dont think he is picking the team but thats a different thread.......

[Majorca Mac]

The Doctor, on Feb 11 2006, 05:08 AM, said:

Or how long can we hold onto a manager has got us into a great position on the field with players he signed, coaches and continues to develop the club on a shoestring.



some of the absolute drivvel posted on here tonight is not unusual though.

I acknowledge that Roy has recruited well given his financial constraints. I have a great deal of respect for him and accept we are in a much better shape thanks in no small part to the way he conducts himself, his standing in the game and the contacts his experience brings.

However, unlike some on here, I do not think that for all his qualities, he should be exempt from criticism. He changed a winning permutation around and produced a system that on the plus side makes us difficult to beat but on the minus side makes us struggle to win.

Recent performances against teams we are perfectly capable of beating have brought the manager's tactical shortcomings into focus. I firmly believe he has persevered with this safety-first formation for too long and as some of us predicted many weeks ago (only to be labelled as harbingers of doom) this has cost us big time.

Just hope he's done a bit of soul-searching and decided to give it a real go when we face a rejuvenated Doncaster on Wednesday. Just hope he belatedly trusts his players to go for the jugular. We are a good side, we must now prove it...

[Jets Fan]

MP-Spire, on Feb 11 2006, 06:33 PM, said:

Who the donald duck do you think is then, Roman Romanov?

So Roys not being stubborn with his tactics? and he can see that 4-4-2 is best with cheif n larks? So why is he playing stupid tactics? Gotta look past the manager for me...........

[Hong Kong Spireite]

Majorca Mac, on Feb 11 2006, 06:47 PM, said:

I acknowledge that Roy has recruited well given his financial constraints. I have a great deal of respect for him and accept we are in a much better shape thanks in no small part to the way he conducts himself, his standing in the game and the contacts his experience brings.

However, unlike some on here, I do not think that for all his qualities, he should be exempt from criticism. He changed a winning permutation around and produced a system that on the plus side makes us difficult to beat but on the minus side makes us struggle to win.

Recent performances against teams we are perfectly capable of beating have brought the manager's tactical shortcomings into focus. I firmly believe he has persevered with this safety-first formation for too long and as some of us predicted many weeks ago (only to be labelled as harbingers of doom) this has cost us big time.

Just hope he's done a bit of soul-searching and decided to give it a real go when we face a rejuvenated Doncaster on Wednesday. Just hope he belatedly trusts his players to go for the jugular. We are a good side, we must now prove it...

Absolutely spot on....

[BOBBY]

a great post from the little lad giving it 'the big one' (sorry, forgot your name !)
roy has done great things but we would like to remove that bit of velcro from our backs and not be permanently stuck to seventh spot.... upwards and onwards

[lubic]

MP-Spire, on Feb 11 2006, 07:54 PM, said:

You've made an accusation that Roy isn't picking the team, so please quantify your accusation by telling us who is.

His collaborator-in-chief has just been online and neglected to enlighten us; he won't be able to either.

This post has been edited by Paul: 11 February 2006 - 07:16 PM

[Wooden Spoon]

bookerandyb, on Feb 11 2006, 06:27 PM, said:

Roy has got us into a fantastic position and got top players in, were not disputing that but the point we r trying to get accross is that if hes not careful he will throw it away....well i dont think he is picking the team but thats a different thread.......

yes he has. so why are you whining like a big girl?

so who is picking the team? krusty Mr Richardson? ronald macdonald? are you trying to suggest BH is picking the team? whats the weather like on your planet?

bookerandyb, on Feb 11 2006, 06:49 PM, said:

So Roys not being stubborn with his tactics? and he can see that 4-4-2 is best with cheif n larks? So why is he playing stupid tactics? Gotta look past the manager for me...........

maybe he is resting a "old man" for the donny game? maybe, with 3 out of 4 of our back line injured he packed the midfield to give extra protection to our goalkeeper and his makeshift defense?

Town_Fan, on Feb 11 2006, 03:27 AM, said:

How long do we have to put up with a mangers insecurities costing us the best chance of promiotion for years?

rather put up with that than a manager throwing sense and caution to the wind, lose lots of games, and struggle at the bottom.

[markpearson]

Town_Fan, on Feb 11 2006, 03:27 AM, said:

How long do we have to put up with a mangers insecurities costing us the best chance of promiotion for years?

i bet you was one of those kids who was never satisfied at christmas or birthday if you'd have got 6 presents you'd have wanted seven , if you had seven ther next year you'd have wanted 8 and so on and so on..

be gratefull for what we have its only two seasons ago we stayed up with literally last kick of season...

[Town_Fan]

markpearson, on Feb 12 2006, 01:24 PM, said:

i bet you was one of those kids who was never satisfied at christmas or birthday if you'd have got 6 presents you'd have wanted seven , if you had seven ther next year you'd have wanted 8 and so on and so on..

be gratefull for what we have its only two seasons ago we stayed up with literally last kick of season...

I bet your one of those blokes that has no ambition or drive and constantly settles for mediocrity. I bet the most interesting qustion you get to ask in your job is "do you want fries with that".

As for surviving relegation its worth noting that Mcfarland was the guy who steered us to the lofty heights of 17th Woohoo.

[Town_Fan]

spireiteblue, on Feb 12 2006, 03:48 PM, said:

That is exactly what Mark does though

Was childish of me to bite i guess, but getting even more childish, he started it

[Hong Kong Spireite]

markpearson, on Feb 12 2006, 01:24 PM, said:

i bet you was one of those kids who was never satisfied at christmas or birthday if you'd have got 6 presents you'd have wanted seven , if you had seven ther next year you'd have wanted 8 and so on and so on..

be gratefull for what we have its only two seasons ago we stayed up with literally last kick of season...

Yes, but that was 2 seasons ago!!! Stop living in the past! This is now and we have a good side now!!

2 seasons ago, who'd have thought Chelsea would dominate the Premiership? Or that Wigan would be in the Premiership? Who also would have thought that after beating a mid-table Luton side on the last game of the season the next season they would walk the division (deservedly so) and then do well in the Champtionship the year after? Who would have thought Hartlepool and Bristol City would struggle this season? Football is an unpredictable game and that's what makes it so great. You make it sound as if we should be satisfied with throwing promotion away just because 2 years ago we nearly went down. That was then and this is now, we have a team good enough to go up and the season everyone (including the supporters) starts believing that then the better!