[Elmer Fudd's Thick Lip]

So then, after our obvious shortcomings and failure this season, just who is responsible, and who should take the plaudits for our success in the JPT?

Keep your answers, simple, short and sweet.

This post has been edited by Dave Wallers 'tache: 07 April 2012 - 05:39 PM

[philly8mt]

Failure in league

Share it out equally .. Board, Management & Players


Success in JPT

Distraction from the drudgery of league football
A B****Y big win bonus!

This post has been edited by philly8mt: 07 April 2012 - 05:41 PM

[BeastMode]

Success in what sorry? The players obviously realused they weren't gonna get a bonus for the league, so they showed heart in a tin pot trophy

[Goku]

Sheridan deserves credit for the JPT win but when you put it alongside the league failings it doesn't really give him much of a reprieve.

[h again]

Dave Wallers, on 07 April 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

So then, after our obvious shortcomings and failure this season, just who is responsible, and who should take the plaudits for our success in the JPT?

Keep your answers, simple, short and sweet.

Tell me who selected and organised the teams and I'll give an opinion.

[jonnythespireite]

Dave Wallers, on 07 April 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

So then, after our obvious shortcomings and failure this season, just who is responsible, and who should take the plaudits for our success in the JPT?

Keep your answers, simple, short and sweet.

Despite obvious boardroom recruitment issues in the summer Sheridan has still had time and resource to sort it out. He didn't. If this lot 'don't listen' what's to say the next lot will. He should resign but won't. His demeanour is arrogant and aggressive. He's failed.

[Blueprint]

success in JPT - getting a bye in the first round, opposing managers playing understrength teams, JS dropping his first choice players and playing ones he hasn't played in the league. Lady Luck, getting draws against off form teams and then playing one from the division below below in the final.

Failure in the league - the board having too much faith is a failing manager, lack of summer actiivity, and the few signings made not being good enough, too many inexperienced, young players signed when we really needed experience and players who have been in relegation battles before, too many small/weak players signed, poor tactics, poor man mangement, inability to find a strong defence that can keep clean sheets, too many players played out of position, too much experimenting on the pitch, too much chopping and changing, not keeping players in the side who are on form, and resting players who are well off form.


Is that sweet enough?

[Elmer Fudd's Thick Lip]

WhittMoorSpireite, on 07 April 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

Success in what sorry? The players obviously realused they weren't gonna get a bonus for the league, so they showed heart in a tin pot trophy

And there in that one answer lies the reason I started this thread.

We can go on and on about Sheridan, and just what he's got wrong this season. What concerns me more is the attitude of our players. They can shine at Wembley, but when it's really mattered they've been absent.

When JS was playing, this sort of attitude wasn't as prevalent, and it must pull his teeth.

He has made mistakes, but in all honesty, the blame for our predicament must be shouldered equally, if not more so by the players. JS has been massively let down by this ragtag bunch, yes we know he signed them blah blah.

Does anyone else feel this way, as the common consensus on here is blame Sheridan. The players need to take a long hard look at themselves IMO.

[Oldtimer]

Dave Wallers, on 07 April 2012 - 05:39 PM, said:

So then, after our obvious shortcomings and failure this season, just who is responsible, and who should take the plaudits for our success in the JPT?

Keep your answers, simple, short and sweet.

The league positions rarely lie, in the cup luck can play an important part.

[metallilad]

WhittMoorSpireite, on 07 April 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

Success in what sorry? The players obviously realused they weren't gonna get a bonus for the league, so they showed heart in a tin pot trophy

Thats daft pal.
Players have pride just like you or I do, its not always about money.
They don't want to get relegated because they aren't gonna get any bonus, they don't want to get relegated at all. Its just been a really bad season league wise so don't think its because they know that they'll not get a bonus they'll not try.
Its a bit disrespectful to say that pal.

[Elmer Fudd's Thick Lip]

h again, on 07 April 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:

Tell me who selected and organised the teams and I'll give an opinion.

I don't need to H. We know it was JS.

If you don't follow instructions in your place of work, if you didn't listen, you'd be hauled in the office and got shot of. I know HB will come in here and say parallels can't be drawn between normal working practice and football, and to a degree he's right. The fact remains though, when presented with an oppurtunity to showcase their talents to a live worldwide audience, with a healthy chance of a nice win bonus, the players, playing the same system pull out all the stops.

It's not right mate, and it seriously concerns me, a hell of a lot more than the thought of JS being here next season.

This post has been edited by Dave Wallers 'tache: 07 April 2012 - 06:08 PM

[Elmer Fudd's Thick Lip]

jonnythespireite, on 07 April 2012 - 05:52 PM, said:

His demeanour is arrogant and aggressive.

Absolute rubbish.

[EIEIEIO]

Sheridan can't take all the blame surely, players we needed were pinpointed early on but the board failed to show any professionalism and tie them down apparently. But yes Sheridan has made some howlers also.

[Elmer Fudd's Thick Lip]

Haslandboi, on 07 April 2012 - 05:48 PM, said:

Sheridan deserves credit for the JPT win but when you put it alongside the league failings it doesn't really give him much of a reprieve.

No Josh, it certainly doesn't. What it does though is make me question the players desire and attitude.

[jonnythespireite]

Dave Wallers, on 07 April 2012 - 06:04 PM, said:

Absolute rubbish.

So n his interactions with the media he displays neither of these traits???

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

So what we're essentially asking is whether we judge a manager on six games or forty six games?

Me? I choose forty six. There're far too many variables involved in the lower number to render them a credible barometer.

[Elmer Fudd's Thick Lip]

jonnythespireite, on 07 April 2012 - 06:11 PM, said:

So n his interactions with the media he displays neither of these traits???

It's all about personal opinions I guess, but what you call arrogance and aggression, I'd call unease and passion.

I think he comes across as a fairly unassuming, uncomplicated man. What you see is what you get.

[Elmer Fudd's Thick Lip]

MDCCCLXVI, on 07 April 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

So what we're essentially asking is whether we judge a manager on six games or forty six games?

Me? I choose forty six. There're far too many variables involved in the lower number to render them a credible barometer.

Not at all Chris, ( or should I follow the trend and call you Snell? ) his failings are glaring.

This season has been terrible and he must shoulder a large portion of the blame.

This is me questioning the attitude and application of so called professional footballers.

Why on so many occasions have they switched off. Today being a case in point. Twice we got ourselves in a position to win the game. It's happened all season long, and individual errors have been frequent and costly. How can these be attributed to Sheridan?

This post has been edited by Dave Wallers 'tache: 07 April 2012 - 06:28 PM

[S43_Spireite]

Dave Wallers, on 07 April 2012 - 05:54 PM, said:

And there in that one answer lies the reason I started this thread.

We can go on and on about Sheridan, and just what he's got wrong this season. What concerns me more is the attitude of our players. They can shine at Wembley, but when it's really mattered they've been absent.

When JS was playing, this sort of attitude wasn't as prevalent, and it must pull his teeth.

He has made mistakes, but in all honesty, the blame for our predicament must be shouldered equally, if not more so by the players. JS has been massively let down by this ragtag bunch, yes we know he signed them blah blah.

Does anyone else feel this way, as the common consensus on here is blame Sheridan. The players need to take a long hard look at themselves IMO.

Fully agree with you DWT

[jonnythespireite]

Dave Wallers, on 07 April 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

It's all about personal opinions I guess, but what you call arrogance and aggression, I'd call unease and passion.

I think he comes across as a fairly unassuming, uncomplicated man. What you see is what you get.

I agree he is uncomplicated . You surely can't deny that his , shall we say 'aura' when being interviewed certainly makes the interviewer uncomfortable in asking the difficult questions. Ask Geoff Mitchell lol ! But he is arrogant - eg. ' they don't listen ( so its not my problem)', ' we don't need any more players', ' the players I've got are good enough'......I could go on.

The players do have blame to shoulder but the big problem there is most of them aren't even our players so if they don't give a toss then we can't really do a lot about it.

THe entire thing is a shambles. JS should go. I think keeping him and potentially having the same issues next season is a bigger risk than a pay off.

This post has been edited by jonnythespireite: 07 April 2012 - 06:31 PM