[DRL]

Supporting a Football Club gives us all a licence and the freedom to express our opinions. Sometimes this gets out of hand and sees supporters turning on a single player. Frank Lampard had this at Chelsea and I have seen countless Chesterfield players given the rough edge of Spireites fans tongue.

I have never seen the sense or the value in abusing our own players. In the coming weeks, I hope that the more balanced supporters can out shout those who have chosen to pick on Danny Whittaker.

I’d be the first to admit that Danny has not had a good season. He is not on his own. Many of our players have not had a good season.

During yesterday’s game I felt really sorry for Danny. Every time he got the ball, there was a minority of so called fans swearing and barracking him. It was clearly affecting him and so benefiting the opposition. It’s worth saying that again – barracking our own players benefits the opposition!!

Danny had a great season for us last season. His goals gave us a lot to remember.

Give the guy a break and get behind him. At his best, Danny is a dam good offensive player. Strong distribution, a good passer and as good a player as we have in terms of shooting from distance. Danny IS NOT a tackler and he’s is never going to be…so don’t expect that from him.

Just like Jack Lester being pretty c**p in the air. Neil Trotman having no pace. Mark Allot being virtually immune to shooting. Young Jordan Bowery being poor when he goes through one on one etc., etc. We are in Division 1 and we are bound to have players that have a deficiency or who are inconsistent.

The worst part in seeing players barracked is when they are of good character. Danny is a thoroughly nice guy. He stayed on the pitch longer than any player when we won Division 2 – having his picture taking with the kids, signing autographs and giving everyone that wanted it his time.

I hope Danny scores a few vital goals for us and maybe even the winner at Wembley.

This post has been edited by DRL: 04 March 2012 - 10:39 PM

[cfcblues]

Well he wants to get tackling doesn't he, just like Bowery needs to sharpen up on 1 vs 1 etc

[kevspireites]

DRL, on 04 March 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

Supporting a Football Club gives us all a licence and the freedom to express our opinions. Sometimes this gets out of hand and sees supporters turning on a single player. Frank Lampard had this at Chelsea and I have seen countless Chesterfield players given the rough edge of Spireites fans tongue.

I have never seen the sense or the value in abusing our own players. In the coming weeks, I hope that the more balanced supporters can out shout those who have chosen to pick on Danny Whittaker.

I’d be the first to admit that Danny has not had a good season. He is not on his own. Many of our players have not had a good season.

During yesterday’s game I felt really sorry for Danny. Every time he got the ball, there was a minority of so called fans swearing and barracking him. It was clearly affecting him and so benefiting the opposition. It’s worth saying that again – barracking our own players benefits the opposition!!
Danny had a great season for us last season. His goals gave us a lot to remember.

Give the guy a break and get behind him. At his best, Danny is a dam good offensive player. Strong distribution, a good passer and as good a player as we have in terms of shooting from distance. Danny IS NOT a tackler and he’s is never going to be…so don’t expect that from him.

Just like Jack Lester being pretty c**p in the air. Neil Trotman having no pace. Mark Allot being virtually immune to shooting. Young Jordan Bowery being poor when he goes through one on one etc., etc. We are in Division 1 and we are bound to have players that have a deficiency or who are inconsistent.

The worst part in seeing players barracked is when they are of good character. Danny is a thoroughly nice guy. He stayed on the pitch longer than any player when we won Division 2 – having his picture taking with the kids, signing autographs and giving everyone that wanted it his time.

I hope Danny scores a few vital goals for us and maybe even the winner at Wembley.

not much kop when we are under the cosh for the majority of games this season. funny how morgan is critisised on here for being the exact same and shouldn't be in the team but for you its ok for danny to be the same

[Blue95]

why can that stop him getting stuck in?
players ability is one thing, but the determination to win the ball for your team is another, why he feels he doesnt need to tackle is what baffles everybody, and quite rightly so, all we ask is that he doesnt back out of tackles and tries to impose himself that bit more on the game.

[moondog]

kevspireites, on 04 March 2012 - 10:41 PM, said:

not much kop when we are under the cosh for the majority of games this season. funny how morgan is critisised on here for being the exact same and shouldn't be in the team but for you its ok for danny to be the same

A big difference Danny, has never publicly moaned when dropped and doesn't think he's better than he is

[SpireiteFitzy]

The abuse Danny gets is disgraceful, the guy doing it at orient should have been strung up by his heels.

However, the harsh reality is that Whits no longer offers anything of use to us, hes too lightweight for the central midfield role and is no winger. Unless he decides to get stuck in more and stop shying away from challenges then I don't want to see him in the side.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

moondog, on 04 March 2012 - 10:50 PM, said:

A big difference Danny, has never publicly moaned when dropped and doesn't think he's better than he is

and although he can't tackel for toffee, gets pulled out of position etc he does at least try and track back for nuisance value. Morgan is more a hands on hips type of player when the opposition have the ball

[Blue95]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 04 March 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

and although he can't tackel for toffee, gets pulled out of position etc he does at least try and track back for nuisance value. Morgan is more a hands on hips type of player when the opposition have the ball

for the amount of times this is said, and im not defending morgan cus he doesn't deserve to be anywhere near our squad atm, but has this avtually ever happened and does anybody remember seeing it? cus i certainly dont.

[DRL]

kevspireites, on 04 March 2012 - 10:41 PM, said:

not much kop when we are under the cosh for the majority of games this season. funny how morgan is critisised on here for being the exact same and shouldn't be in the team but for you its ok for danny to be the same

Last season Morgan was my favourite player. He's not had a good season. That said, you will never hear me shouting nasty things about any of our players.

You are right, Morgan cannot tackle either. That's not what he does and I don't expect that from him.

Morgan would be in my team, playing consistently on the left.

Some players just cannot tackle. They simply don't have the technique. Danny & deano fall into that category.

[kevspireites]

see i've got a fan -1 ing every post i do why dont you inbox me obviously have something to get off your chest or do you prefer the anonymity?

[cfcblues]

People don't like realists kev

[brew_army]

kevspireites, on 04 March 2012 - 10:41 PM, said:

not much kop when we are under the cosh for the majority of games this season. funny how morgan is critisised on here for being the exact same and shouldn't be in the team but for you its ok for danny to be the same

Different players have different attributes its down to the manager and coaches to bring that together. Its totally unfair/impossible for fans to expect a player to change his talent/style of play. Glen Hoddle was one of the most gifted players I have ever seen but you would cringe at the the thought of him making a tackle.

My point is a player has certain abilities and is given a role in the team, no way in this world should fans boo him for that. To make my point clearer if he wasn't doing the job as expected he would be dropped or substituted by his manager.

[Jud]

kevspireites, on 04 March 2012 - 10:41 PM, said:

not much kop when we are under the cosh for the majority of games this season. funny how morgan is critisised on here for being the exact same and shouldn't be in the team but for you its ok for danny to be the same

Does Morgan have his name booed at the start of a game? No. So your double-standard theory kind of falls flat on its face. Picking on one player when we're in a relegation battle is so moronic (not aiming this at you Kev, unless you're one of those people who boo him mindlessly). A) It's in no way helpful B) He doesn't deserve to be singled out in a team made up largely of under-performers. I wouldn't pick Danny in my starting line-up, but I wouldn't dream of abusing him. Criticism and abuse are not the same thing, one is perfectly valid and one borders on the shameful.

[DIFH]

Blue95, on 04 March 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

for the amount of times this is said, and im not defending morgan cus he doesn't deserve to be anywhere near our squad atm, but has this avtually ever happened and does anybody remember seeing it? cus i certainly dont.

As recently as Notts County.

[brew_army]

kevspireites, on 04 March 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

see i've got a fan -1 ing every post i do why dont you inbox me obviously have something to get off your chest or do you prefer the anonymity?

AAAh bless the irony! you condone fans booing him for trying to do his job, then cry over a -1 stalker

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

Blue95, on 04 March 2012 - 10:57 PM, said:

for the amount of times this is said, and im not defending morgan cus he doesn't deserve to be anywhere near our squad atm, but has this avtually ever happened and does anybody remember seeing it? cus i certainly dont.

Every game he plays, He runs back first ten yards then gives up

[birdholmer]

SpireiteFitzy, on 04 March 2012 - 10:52 PM, said:

The abuse Danny gets is disgraceful, the guy doing it at orient should have been strung up by his heels.

However, the harsh reality is that Whits no longer offers anything of use to us, hes too lightweight for the central midfield role and is no winger. Unless he decides to get stuck in more and stop shying away from challenges then I don't want to see him in the side.

your post completely baffles me.

[mattthespireite]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 05 March 2012 - 12:16 AM, said:

Every game he plays, He runs back first ten yards then gives up

And every game Whitaker plays he drifts inside exposing our full back. Then when he does track back he just trotts alongside the player,following him like a bad smell.arms flapping and fingers pointing. At least Morgan doesn't try and trick us into believing he is determined to win the ball back!

[Spireite-Karl]

Coloquix, on 04 March 2012 - 11:49 PM, said:

Does Morgan have his name booed at the start of a game? No. So your double-standard theory kind of falls flat on its face. Picking on one player when we're in a relegation battle is so moronic (not aiming this at you Kev, unless you're one of those people who boo him mindlessly). A) It's in no way helpful B) He doesn't deserve to be singled out in a team made up largely of under-performers. I wouldn't pick Danny in my starting line-up, but I wouldn't dream of abusing him. Criticism and abuse are not the same thing, one is perfectly valid and one borders on the shameful.

Spot on! And whether Danny Whitts, Dean Morgan or Gareth Bale, our fans should be right behind them if they are playing for our cause. Danny IS NOT a tackler, it's not in his make up nor part of his game... THAT blame lies firmly at the hands of the manager who consistently plays him out of position.
Danny for me only has one position and thats in the hole behind the striker(s) where tackling isn't so much of an issue. IF Sheridan consistently plays him in an uncomfortable position why would blame the player and abuse him?? Would you abuse Tommy for being cr-ap for playing upfront or Lester for playing poorly at right back? Get off his back and perhaps we will see a bit more out of him.
He's a talented, but limited player and doesn't deserve the abuse for he's trying his best in what is an uncomfortable position for him.
Want a scapegoat... blame the manager and if the manager has owt about him, he'd would be saying this instead of calling the fans, then at least the fans who boo him can make up their minds as to why and who if anyone is to blame.
That said he wouldn't be in my lineup unless I played with an extra midfielder away from home and he played behind the striker(s) or if needs must. He just hasn't got whats required to play left wing or centre mid, but thats not his fault!!!