[Johnnyspireite7]

trickytrevsfanclub, on 03 August 2011 - 04:29 PM, said:

Im on me hols, don't tell me my house has burnt down or I've been burgled!!!!!

No but your outside tap is leaking like Niagara Falls. I'd get your brother to go and have a look!

[trickytrevsfanclub]

Johnnyspireite7, on 03 August 2011 - 04:40 PM, said:

No but your outside tap is leaking like Niagara Falls. I'd get your brother to go and have a look!

Cheers mate, that'll be my mother who's been watering the hanging basket and forgotten to switch the tap off. Help is on it's way.

[lindave]

nugnag, on 02 August 2011 - 08:55 PM, said:

This is my first post. So please excuse me if it is from the heart.

As a life-long supporter of the Spireites I would like to share a few thoughts with you all. I have, as most of you have no doubt experienced, some great days and some best forgotten. The 80s comes to mind with barely 2000 watching a very poor team on a cold tuesday winter's night. Saying that, the likes of David Waller scoring a hat-trick as it poured down brought a glow to our hearts. We have had some good managers and some hopeless ones who hung on for years and probably deserved the flack from the fans they got. We had some really really poor teams and we true supports endured it regardless.

Why? Because we are true supporters of the team we chose to support come anything. We always support the team and every one who wears that shirt for town is playing for Chesterfield FC, weather they are great or hopeless, or just having a bad day. They can only grow as players if they are cheered on and supported by the fans. And so the whole team will grow in confidence and also prosper.

Last season was very special.

We waited a long tome for the ground, and now we have it.

We waited a long time for an owner who has money and has direction and has a ambition and moreover has the balls to state his goals to the fans, and now we have it.

And last but no means least, we have a clever, talented and experienced as a player, at world cup level, manager, who has dedicated his next 5 years of his promising career with us.

We have a great management team with all the coaches and back up staff, probably the best management team ever at town.

With all this in place with all these people working hard for success, does anybody on here really believe they really know more than they? Or can question their decisions?

I am so so fed up of reading on this board all the constant moaning and negative comments directed towards this club!!! For God's sake people! We have just won, sorry, I will say it louder, we have JUST WON THE LEAUGUE!

Now here is the crucial bit. I AM A TRUE FAN. I AM NOT GOING TO LET THESE B@£ta@ds ruin it for us!!! I APPEAL TO ALL TRUE FANS TO GO TO THE FIRST HOME MATCH AND STAND UP FOR THE SPIREITES AND SING YOUR HEART OUT WITH PRIDE. I have confidence. Real confidence in the board and the manager. They will do all they can to bring us Championship football in a five year timeframe. Not next year. 5 Years. I am more than happy with how things are progressing and I wish them well. I am sure signings will come when the time is right.

THEY ARE NOT MUGS. PLEASE DO NOT LET THE IDIOTS WIN! Please do not let the morons who always moan and want Sheridan out because he played for Wednesday. We know they are in the crowd. A few poor results, as we wait for transfers, will bring them out, and God forbid they get to the players or the manager himself. FANS, please shout them down! Tell them what they have, and basically tell them to go and do one. Because for me they are not fans of the SPIREITES. PLEASE STAND UP FOR THE SPIREITES, sing your heart out and let's really give those players, whoever they are, all our support, as we have done for many many years.

Thank you John Sherridan.

[deano-cfc]

MDCCCLXVI, on 03 August 2011 - 04:12 PM, said:

I tend to agree.

Whenever i hear or read talk of only those adopting an ultra-positive stance being "true fans", an assertion invariably accompanied by derision aimed at so-called "moaners", i roll my eyes skywards in exasperation.

It's true to say that following year after year of failure we're in a terrific place at the moment, a place few of us envisaged twelve short months ago. In my experience everyone - everyone - appreciates and celebrates the enormous progress made. However that doesn't mean the Club get everything right all of the time, and fans - the genuine, long standing, hard-core, paying customers without whom CFC wouldn't exist - have every right to question, discuss or even criticise when mistakes are made.

And by the way, plenty of those who adopt a conservative, pro-establishment attitude on this forum were posting highly negative comments about Sheridan following his first season in charge.

How any body can say they don't here moaning in the ground is behond me, they must have got the seats that Carlsberg reserved, theres plenty of moaners on here and at the ground, I have had the odd grumble in the past but have grown up a bit since then, after all its football, we choose to watch it no one forces us, so enjoy it while you can, the thing that concerns me is when you look back at last season we still had a few unhappy followers !!
I trust in Sherridan and Dave Allen but time will tell, that suits me and I'm prepared to buckle in and see what happens, lets find our feet in league 1 and give everyone time to adjust. If you enjoy a good moan then fair enough just don't direct it to the players in games because that really does a massive amount for confidence.

[If Carlsberg Made Chairmen]

MDCCCLXVI, on 03 August 2011 - 04:12 PM, said:

I tend to agree.

Whenever i hear or read talk of only those adopting an ultra-positive stance being "true fans", an assertion invariably accompanied by derision aimed at so-called "moaners", i roll my eyes skywards in exasperation.

I knew you wouldn`t disappoint us Lord, you always get offended by the phrase "proper fans" I knew this thread would get your back up, did you have another bet with yourself today?

[If Carlsberg Made Chairmen]

deano-cfc, on 03 August 2011 - 04:58 PM, said:

How any body can say they don't here moaning in the ground is behond me, they must have got the seats that Carlsberg reserved, theres plenty of moaners on here and at the ground.

I never said I don`t hear any moaning deano, but the Nets not half as bad as the Rec was. The Rec had large groups of people often creating a bad atmosphere. The Net has a few shouters and moaners but they`re drowned out by the positives. Theres always a few at every ground in the country.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

deano-cfc, on 03 August 2011 - 04:58 PM, said:

How any body can say they don't here moaning in the ground is behond me, they must have got the seats that Carlsberg reserved, theres plenty of moaners on here and at the ground, I have had the odd grumble in the past but have grown up a bit since then, after all its football, we choose to watch it no one forces us, so enjoy it while you can, the thing that concerns me is when you look back at last season we still had a few unhappy followers !!
I trust in Sherridan and Dave Allen but time will tell, that suits me and I'm prepared to buckle in and see what happens, lets find our feet in league 1 and give everyone time to adjust. If you enjoy a good moan then fair enough just don't direct it to the players in games because that really does a massive amount for confidence.

I sit in the Family Stand where, but for the occasional and understandable grumble or groan, the ambience was terrific. Infact one of my abiding memories of last season is witnessing so many youngsters enjoying their Town 'experience'. As i've stated elsewhere there'll always be odd-balls amongst us whilst we all vent frustration from time to time, however i just don't recognise this negative picture of our supporters that some attempt to portray.

This post has been edited by MDCCCLXVI: 03 August 2011 - 07:34 PM

[deano-cfc]

If Carlsberg Made Chairmen, on 03 August 2011 - 05:15 PM, said:

I never said I don`t hear any moaning deano, but the Nets not half as bad as the Rec was. The Rec had large groups of people often creating a bad atmosphere. The Net has a few shouters and moaners but they`re drowned out by the positives. Theres always a few at every ground in the country.

Lol !! my refrence to Carlsberg was regards the adverts for beer ie the seats we would all wish for, not a personal refrence to you. Sorry if it came across that way

[Essex_Spireite]

Welcome to the board but I must query something..are you saying if we arent at the first game then we arent true supporters?

[Cartman]

MDCCCLXVI, on 03 August 2011 - 04:12 PM, said:

I tend to agree.

Whenever i hear or read talk of only those adopting an ultra-positive stance being "true fans", an assertion invariably accompanied by derision aimed at so-called "moaners", i roll my eyes skywards in exasperation.

It's true to say that following year after year of failure we're in a terrific place at the moment, a place few of us envisaged twelve short months ago. In my experience everyone - everyone - appreciates and celebrates the enormous progress made. However that doesn't mean the Club get everything right all of the time, and fans - the genuine, long standing, hard-core, paying customers without whom CFC wouldn't exist - have every right to question, discuss or even criticise when mistakes are made.

And by the way, plenty of those who adopt a conservative, pro-establishment attitude on this forum were posting highly negative comments about Sheridan following his first season in charge.

all true

no fan should elevate themselves above any other for whatever reason

we're all 'true' Chesterfield fans whether we be moaners or happy clappers or whatever

I would never question RPL or Warfey's support of Town, but I do question their endless moaning about not signing 20 players over the summer, I'm quite happy trusting Sheridan for the moment to do the job he is paid to do

after all, this place is for discussion and if everyone agreed it's be boring

[EIEIEIO]

MDCCCLXVI, on 03 August 2011 - 07:23 PM, said:

I sit in the Family Stand where, but for the occasional and understandable grumble or groan, the ambience was terrific. Infact one of my abiding memories of last season is witnessing so many youngsters enjoying their Town 'experience'. As i've stated elsewhere there'll always be odd-balls amongst us whilst we all vent frustration from time to time, however i just don't recognise this negative picture of our supporters that some attempt to portray.

I wasn't a season ticket holder last season but wherever i sat there was some **** who would constantly moan and berate a player, luckily my son is 15 and comes from Brim so believe you and me has heared it all before

[Spire Power]

EIEIEIO, on 03 August 2011 - 08:55 PM, said:

I wasn't a season ticket holder last season but wherever i sat there was some **** who would constantly moan and berate a player, luckily my son is 15 and comes from Brim so believe you and me has heared it all before

Not at home I hope ...

[S18Spireite]

You know what, nugnag, don't worry about it.

It's an internet forum "law", and also true in wider life, that people will complain more than they will praise. How many times do we ring/email to complain to a company vs the number of times we'll ring/email to praise a company. The same is true here, we'll see double the number of posts after a defeat than we do after a victory.

The number of negative posts and posters on here is disproportionate to the number of fans we now see at the b2net and we have to remember that. Add in to the mix that there are people who are clearly on a wind-up and people who will never change their attitude, then you're probably fighting a losing battle.

Once upon a time I read this forum regularly, but not any longer. I'll look from time-to-time because you might pick up snippets of CFC and local news that you wouldn't elsewhere. I also like to read people's interpretation of matches and performances, but during close-season the whole forum changes simply because there are no facts to talk about. There seems little point, it's not only opinion (which you cannot legislate for) but opinion based entirely on fiction. No-one really knows what's happening and nor can we affect it.

Once upon a time we would get to mid-august and the Derbyshire Times would print a photo of the team for the season and tell us who has come and who has gone and we would accept that and get ready for the season. These days we demand to know everything, but how far does that get us? There'll still be 11 Chesterfield players walking onto the pitch at Prenton Park on Saturday who we'll get behind no matter what.

I'm not saying debate is worthless - and if it's for you, then go for it. I also realise there's a risk that I might sound like I'm on a high-horse, I'm aware of that. But from having been reading this forum for as long as its been in existence (and a steady if not prolific contributor) I'm well aware of what and who to read and what to take with a pinch of salt and what to take seriously. And ultimately not to let other people's thoughts get to me.