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..but if we're honest it's been coming.
Look, the simple truth about Chesterfield FC this season is that we're not a tough-tacking side that'll engage in physical battles, we're a fluent, passing outfit whose general philosophy is 'you score one, we'll score two'. Now that's been great thus far, delivering some of the most entertaining football witnessed for years and attracting far higher than anticipated crowds as a result, however as predicted by many observers there'll be games like last night when the attacking ethos backfires. It wasn't about Robertson (who didn't really do anything wrong); it wasn't about Morris (who is a solid performer but can't really go past a man), Whitaker (who had an uncharacteristic stinker), Talbot (who returned to his frustrating 'won't take a man on' mode last evening) or Davies (who seems to be on a personal quest to score the spectacular every week rather than look for team mates in a better positions); infact it wasn't about one single individual at all: it was about a whole side that lack steel, the 'bite' that's needed to compete and prevent sides from passing through and around us as Oxford comfortably did all too often.
In short, we didn't earn the right to play our preferred brand of football so were outplayed ourselves.
Having said that i thought we could've easily been two or three up by half time. Though a long, long way from our best we'd done enough to create a number of opportunities that, on another day, might've altered the whole scenario. Then even during those last desperate minutes chances went begging that, if converted, would've left us talking of a point gained and top spot retained despite a lousy showing.
So i guess what i'm trying to say is that whilst we're all gutted, genuinely gutted, let's not overreact.
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Posted 24 November 2010 - 09:00 AM
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Posted 24 November 2010 - 09:13 AM
MDCCCLXVI, on 24 November 2010 - 09:00 AM, said:
..but if we're honest it's been coming.
Look, the simple truth about Chesterfield FC this season is that we're not a tough-tacking side that'll engage in physical battles, we're a fluent, passing outfit whose general philosophy is 'you score one, we'll score two'. Now that's been great thus far, delivering some of the most entertaining football witnessed for years and attracting far higher than anticipated crowds as a result, however as predicted by many observers there'll be games like last night when the attacking ethos backfires. It wasn't about Robertson (who didn't really do anything wrong); it wasn't about Morris (who is a solid performer but can't really go past a man), Whitaker (who had an uncharacteristic stinker), Talbot (who returned to his frustrating 'won't take a man on' mode last evening) or Davies (who seems to be on a personal quest to score the spectacular every week rather than look for team mates in a better positions); infact it wasn't about one single individual at all: it was about a whole side that lack steel, the 'bite' that's needed to compete and prevent sides from passing through and around us as Oxford comfortably did all too often.
In short, we didn't earn the right to play our preferred brand of football so were outplayed ourselves.
Having said that i thought we could've easily been two or three up by half time. Though a long, long way from our best we'd done enough to create a number of opportunities that, on another day, might've altered the whole scenario. Then even during those last desperate minutes chances went begging that, if converted, would've left us talking of a point gained and top spot retained despite a lousy showing.
So i guess what i'm trying to say is that whilst we're all gutted, genuinely gutted, let's not overreact.
Look, the simple truth about Chesterfield FC this season is that we're not a tough-tacking side that'll engage in physical battles, we're a fluent, passing outfit whose general philosophy is 'you score one, we'll score two'. Now that's been great thus far, delivering some of the most entertaining football witnessed for years and attracting far higher than anticipated crowds as a result, however as predicted by many observers there'll be games like last night when the attacking ethos backfires. It wasn't about Robertson (who didn't really do anything wrong); it wasn't about Morris (who is a solid performer but can't really go past a man), Whitaker (who had an uncharacteristic stinker), Talbot (who returned to his frustrating 'won't take a man on' mode last evening) or Davies (who seems to be on a personal quest to score the spectacular every week rather than look for team mates in a better positions); infact it wasn't about one single individual at all: it was about a whole side that lack steel, the 'bite' that's needed to compete and prevent sides from passing through and around us as Oxford comfortably did all too often.
In short, we didn't earn the right to play our preferred brand of football so were outplayed ourselves.
Having said that i thought we could've easily been two or three up by half time. Though a long, long way from our best we'd done enough to create a number of opportunities that, on another day, might've altered the whole scenario. Then even during those last desperate minutes chances went begging that, if converted, would've left us talking of a point gained and top spot retained despite a lousy showing.
So i guess what i'm trying to say is that whilst we're all gutted, genuinely gutted, let's not overreact.
i dont think we were outplayed,oxford were the worst team to come to the b2net,we just underperformed on a massive scale,simply not good enough by a team who have the ability to win this league with ease if they have the right attitude
ITS NOT THE WINNING,ITS THE TAKING APART
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Posted 24 November 2010 - 09:16 AM
Im still Trying to think how they managed to score Twice.
Saying that apart from our Goal, how many Shots on target did their Keeper have to deal with ???
Saying that apart from our Goal, how many Shots on target did their Keeper have to deal with ???
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Posted 24 November 2010 - 09:28 AM
MDCCCLXVI, on 24 November 2010 - 09:00 AM, said:
..but if we're honest it's been coming.
Look, the simple truth about Chesterfield FC this season is that we're not a tough-tacking side that'll engage in physical battles, we're a fluent, passing outfit whose general philosophy is 'you score one, we'll score two'. Now that's been great thus far, delivering some of the most entertaining football witnessed for years and attracting far higher than anticipated crowds as a result, however as predicted by many observers there'll be games like last night when the attacking ethos backfires. It wasn't about Robertson (who didn't really do anything wrong); it wasn't about Morris (who is a solid performer but can't really go past a man), Whitaker (who had an uncharacteristic stinker), Talbot (who returned to his frustrating 'won't take a man on' mode last evening) or Davies (who seems to be on a personal quest to score the spectacular every week rather than look for team mates in a better positions); infact it wasn't about one single individual at all: it was about a whole side that lack steel, the 'bite' that's needed to compete and prevent sides from passing through and around us as Oxford comfortably did all too often.
In short, we didn't earn the right to play our preferred brand of football so were outplayed ourselves.
Having said that i thought we could've easily been two or three up by half time. Though a long, long way from our best we'd done enough to create a number of opportunities that, on another day, might've altered the whole scenario. Then even during those last desperate minutes chances went begging that, if converted, would've left us talking of a point gained and top spot retained despite a lousy showing.
So i guess what i'm trying to say is that whilst we're all gutted, genuinely gutted, let's not overreact.
Look, the simple truth about Chesterfield FC this season is that we're not a tough-tacking side that'll engage in physical battles, we're a fluent, passing outfit whose general philosophy is 'you score one, we'll score two'. Now that's been great thus far, delivering some of the most entertaining football witnessed for years and attracting far higher than anticipated crowds as a result, however as predicted by many observers there'll be games like last night when the attacking ethos backfires. It wasn't about Robertson (who didn't really do anything wrong); it wasn't about Morris (who is a solid performer but can't really go past a man), Whitaker (who had an uncharacteristic stinker), Talbot (who returned to his frustrating 'won't take a man on' mode last evening) or Davies (who seems to be on a personal quest to score the spectacular every week rather than look for team mates in a better positions); infact it wasn't about one single individual at all: it was about a whole side that lack steel, the 'bite' that's needed to compete and prevent sides from passing through and around us as Oxford comfortably did all too often.
In short, we didn't earn the right to play our preferred brand of football so were outplayed ourselves.
Having said that i thought we could've easily been two or three up by half time. Though a long, long way from our best we'd done enough to create a number of opportunities that, on another day, might've altered the whole scenario. Then even during those last desperate minutes chances went begging that, if converted, would've left us talking of a point gained and top spot retained despite a lousy showing.
So i guess what i'm trying to say is that whilst we're all gutted, genuinely gutted, let's not overreact.
I think our midfield are scared to 'take a yellow' for the team. If an opposition midfielder is waltzing through our midfield pulling our defence out of position, why don't Allot and/or Whitaker put the boot it and take a yellow card? Would Paul Holland / Sean Parrish allow the opposition to run past them time after time? Get some balls lads and get stuck in!
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Posted 24 November 2010 - 09:47 AM
spire1234, on 24 November 2010 - 09:16 AM, said:
Im still Trying to think how they managed to score Twice.
Saying that apart from our Goal, how many Shots on target did their Keeper have to deal with ???
Saying that apart from our Goal, how many Shots on target did their Keeper have to deal with ???
Same way we did at Aldershot on saturday Rob,it was smash and grab,lets be honest we didn't play too great at Aldershot did we,we just scored two cracking goals.....
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Posted 24 November 2010 - 09:50 AM
No, we not played well in last Three games.
We need to improve on Sat or i fear the Worse
We need to improve on Sat or i fear the Worse
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Posted 24 November 2010 - 12:52 PM
spire1234, on 24 November 2010 - 09:16 AM, said:
Im still Trying to think how they managed to score Twice.
Saying that apart from our Goal, how many Shots on target did their Keeper have to deal with ???
Saying that apart from our Goal, how many Shots on target did their Keeper have to deal with ???
the second goal was a quick thrown and we got caught knapping.
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Posted 24 November 2010 - 01:35 PM
Outplayed overall? Nah, I don't think so. We should've been 3-0 up at the end of the first half and still could/should have scored 2 goals in the 2nd half. Poor finishing, poor decision making and the lack of Mattis and Niven hindered us.
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Posted 24 November 2010 - 01:56 PM
MDCCCLXVI, on 24 November 2010 - 09:00 AM, said:
..but if we're honest it's been coming.
Look, the simple truth about Chesterfield FC this season is that we're not a tough-tacking side that'll engage in physical battles, we're a fluent, passing outfit whose general philosophy is 'you score one, we'll score two'. Now that's been great thus far, delivering some of the most entertaining football witnessed for years and attracting far higher than anticipated crowds as a result, however as predicted by many observers there'll be games like last night when the attacking ethos backfires. It wasn't about Robertson (who didn't really do anything wrong); it wasn't about Morris (who is a solid performer but can't really go past a man), Whitaker (who had an uncharacteristic stinker), Talbot (who returned to his frustrating 'won't take a man on' mode last evening) or Davies (who seems to be on a personal quest to score the spectacular every week rather than look for team mates in a better positions); infact it wasn't about one single individual at all: it was about a whole side that lack steel, the 'bite' that's needed to compete and prevent sides from passing through and around us as Oxford comfortably did all too often.
In short, we didn't earn the right to play our preferred brand of football so were outplayed ourselves.
Having said that i thought we could've easily been two or three up by half time. Though a long, long way from our best we'd done enough to create a number of opportunities that, on another day, might've altered the whole scenario. Then even during those last desperate minutes chances went begging that, if converted, would've left us talking of a point gained and top spot retained despite a lousy showing.
So i guess what i'm trying to say is that whilst we're all gutted, genuinely gutted, let's not overreact.
Look, the simple truth about Chesterfield FC this season is that we're not a tough-tacking side that'll engage in physical battles, we're a fluent, passing outfit whose general philosophy is 'you score one, we'll score two'. Now that's been great thus far, delivering some of the most entertaining football witnessed for years and attracting far higher than anticipated crowds as a result, however as predicted by many observers there'll be games like last night when the attacking ethos backfires. It wasn't about Robertson (who didn't really do anything wrong); it wasn't about Morris (who is a solid performer but can't really go past a man), Whitaker (who had an uncharacteristic stinker), Talbot (who returned to his frustrating 'won't take a man on' mode last evening) or Davies (who seems to be on a personal quest to score the spectacular every week rather than look for team mates in a better positions); infact it wasn't about one single individual at all: it was about a whole side that lack steel, the 'bite' that's needed to compete and prevent sides from passing through and around us as Oxford comfortably did all too often.
In short, we didn't earn the right to play our preferred brand of football so were outplayed ourselves.
Having said that i thought we could've easily been two or three up by half time. Though a long, long way from our best we'd done enough to create a number of opportunities that, on another day, might've altered the whole scenario. Then even during those last desperate minutes chances went begging that, if converted, would've left us talking of a point gained and top spot retained despite a lousy showing.
So i guess what i'm trying to say is that whilst we're all gutted, genuinely gutted, let's not overreact.
Think that post sums everything up nicely.....
We could have been 3-0 up at half time and everyone would have been saying great performance etc...as it was we weren't and got caught....
Whittaker had an absolute shocker and i mean a shocker, worst player on the pitch by miles, his legs seemed to go....and yes it was his fault for the second, failed to track his man back to the edge of the box, Lomax had to close hime down which left the right winger free to slot home....
I think Sheridan made a mistake with his substitutions tonight...we reverted to 4,3,3 and it meant Davies and Bowery out wide...that left Talbot no-where to go and left our midfield short resulting in a lack of creativity and long balls....people lost their positions and our fluency went.
Credit to Robertson, i thought he had a good game, after being out for so long and playing out of position...
Why oh why didnt we bring there player down for the first and take a booking...i was screaming take him down at the time....we were short at the back as a result of the refs interference allowing them to break, you could see it was going to happen, sod's law, take one for the team....bring them down in future...
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Posted 24 November 2010 - 02:09 PM
Tylerdurdencfc, on 24 November 2010 - 01:56 PM, said:
Think that post sums everything up nicely.....
We could have been 3-0 up at half time and everyone would have been saying great performance etc...as it was we weren't and got caught....
Whittaker had an absolute shocker and i mean a shocker, worst player on the pitch by miles, his legs seemed to go....and yes it was his fault for the second, failed to track his man back to the edge of the box, Lomax had to close hime down which left the right winger free to slot home....
I think Sheridan made a mistake with his substitutions tonight...we reverted to 4,3,3 and it meant Davies and Bowery out wide...that left Talbot no-where to go and left our midfield short resulting in a lack of creativity and long balls....people lost their positions and our fluency went.
Credit to Robertson, i thought he had a good game, after being out for so long and playing out of position...
Why oh why didnt we bring there player down for the first and take a booking...i was screaming take him down at the time....we were short at the back as a result of the refs interference allowing them to break, you could see it was going to happen, sod's law, take one for the team....bring them down in future...
We could have been 3-0 up at half time and everyone would have been saying great performance etc...as it was we weren't and got caught....
Whittaker had an absolute shocker and i mean a shocker, worst player on the pitch by miles, his legs seemed to go....and yes it was his fault for the second, failed to track his man back to the edge of the box, Lomax had to close hime down which left the right winger free to slot home....
I think Sheridan made a mistake with his substitutions tonight...we reverted to 4,3,3 and it meant Davies and Bowery out wide...that left Talbot no-where to go and left our midfield short resulting in a lack of creativity and long balls....people lost their positions and our fluency went.
Credit to Robertson, i thought he had a good game, after being out for so long and playing out of position...
Why oh why didnt we bring there player down for the first and take a booking...i was screaming take him down at the time....we were short at the back as a result of the refs interference allowing them to break, you could see it was going to happen, sod's law, take one for the team....bring them down in future...
Defensively Whittaker leaves a lot to be desired, the lad has no accelleration and his best atributes are his composure on the ball if he has similar players to play with and finding space where he makes himself available.
God I hate this league.
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Posted 24 November 2010 - 02:15 PM
Time to change our game plan i think, we need to work out how to get clean sheets as we can't keep thinking it's ok to let a couple of goals in each game as we'll score at least 3, last night all sheridan did was bring strikers on to change the game, that was not the problem.
Having watched the Crewe DVD recently I honestly think we have missed Craig Clay, he was awesome that game and was a big factor in us getting a point out of the game, he's on loan at Barrow to gain experience but yet he's only played in one game, he'd have been better off staying here and coming on in games when we needed something else in midfield. I think if he'd have come on last night we'd still be top of the league. If he's been injured while on loan i'm unaware, but his loan has really been a waste of time when he was looking useful for us.
RE Davies, yes he's topscorer but I so wish he'd consider other options like passing rather going for the sublime each time.
Fair play to Robertson, when I saw that he was playing centre back I dreaded the worst as he'd not exactly the most liked player to ever put on a blue shirt, I expected him to have a stinker and get his usual abuse but I was unaware he'd played at centre back for Scotland. He didn't do that bad to say when he last played in that position, the problem was how the whole team when about training ground and improve on our issues. We do need more steel, it was frustrating last night watching us play sideways passes, and balls out wide when we really should have been trying to go through the middle, especially given we were losing and were running out of time. Attractive, it may have been but at the end of the day 3 points matter the most.
Having watched the Crewe DVD recently I honestly think we have missed Craig Clay, he was awesome that game and was a big factor in us getting a point out of the game, he's on loan at Barrow to gain experience but yet he's only played in one game, he'd have been better off staying here and coming on in games when we needed something else in midfield. I think if he'd have come on last night we'd still be top of the league. If he's been injured while on loan i'm unaware, but his loan has really been a waste of time when he was looking useful for us.
RE Davies, yes he's topscorer but I so wish he'd consider other options like passing rather going for the sublime each time.
Fair play to Robertson, when I saw that he was playing centre back I dreaded the worst as he'd not exactly the most liked player to ever put on a blue shirt, I expected him to have a stinker and get his usual abuse but I was unaware he'd played at centre back for Scotland. He didn't do that bad to say when he last played in that position, the problem was how the whole team when about training ground and improve on our issues. We do need more steel, it was frustrating last night watching us play sideways passes, and balls out wide when we really should have been trying to go through the middle, especially given we were losing and were running out of time. Attractive, it may have been but at the end of the day 3 points matter the most.
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Posted 25 November 2010 - 10:55 PM
Blueprint, on 24 November 2010 - 02:15 PM, said:
Having watched the Crewe DVD recently I honestly think we have missed Craig Clay, he was awesome that game and was a big factor in us getting a point out of the game, he's on loan at Barrow to gain experience but yet he's only played in one game, he'd have been better off staying here and coming on in games when we needed something else in midfield. I think if he'd have come on last night we'd still be top of the league. If he's been injured while on loan i'm unaware, but his loan has really been a waste of time when he was looking useful for us.
Clay's not been injured just seems that Sheridan junior just didn't fancy him, in hindsight a mistake to loan him out
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