[Goku]

You just want me to say Mark Allot is poor don't you haha

[spireitetoo]

djs, on Oct 18 2009, 07:06 PM, said:

Perhaps we should look at these facts and figures at the back end of the season when we can get a true reflection of what they actually mean!!

Norwich have had 18 goals against them too, 7 of which were in the first game of the season( which is all but forgotten now), They are in the playoff possition at present and if they are up there come May ...does it matter.

Facts and figures are just that........ facts and figures and nothing else! and will be forgotten if we achive what we want

in the words of my hero HOMER SIMPSON " facts are useless they can be used to prove anything"

[hasland_spireite]

Haslandboi, on Oct 18 2009, 06:52 PM, said:

You just want me to say Mark Allot is poor don't you haha

Id like you to admit hes not the god you think he is

[Goku]

hasland_spireite, on Oct 18 2009, 10:58 PM, said:

Id like you to admit hes not the god you think he is

I've never said anything of the sort.

I said he retains posession which is an invaluble asset for a League 2 team as not many do it.

I also said if you don't appreciate his talent, then you've probably never played football properly. It helps a great deal when you've got someone you can drop the ball off to and let him slow the tempo down.

[Sammy Spireite]

MP-Spire, on Oct 19 2009, 08:42 AM, said:

Far too often, when was the last time?




The CM was the problem prior to Perks signing, now it's the defence, make your mind up.

Page has improved vastly this season compared to last and is showing us finally why he was the flagship signing of last season.

However, he does from time to time allow the red mist to descend and saturday was another occasion where his temper got the better of him unfortunately.

His challenge for the penalty at best was a little rash, at worst a moment of madness, late and ultimately probably cost us a point and maybe even 3 as we looked on top prior to the incident (indeed, Perkins had just hit the bar).

Although I do not blame the ref nor his assistants for the decision he was very quick to pull up most physical contact and was whistle happy for the majority of the game against both sides. For me an experience player who has played at this level ought to be able to adapt his game to minimise fouls against/free kicks etc.

I must use this medium to apologise to anyone who may have overheard me at the match or that i text on the way home branding him a thug. I appreciate his efforts thus far this season and hope he continues in his current vein of form (just hope he cuts out the odd moment of madness!)

[DIFH]

Sammy Spireite, on Oct 19 2009, 10:51 AM, said:

Page has improved vastly this season compared to last and is showing us finally why he was the flagship signing of last season.

However, he does from time to time allow the red mist to descend and saturday was another occasion where his temper got the better of him unfortunately.

His challenge for the penalty at best was a little rash, at worst a moment of madness, late and ultimately probably cost us a point and maybe even 3 as we looked on top prior to the incident (indeed, Perkins had just hit the bar).

Although I do not blame the ref nor his assistants for the decision he was very quick to pull up most physical contact and was whistle happy for the majority of the game against both sides. For me an experience player who has played at this level ought to be able to adapt his game to minimise fouls against/free kicks etc.

I must use this medium to apologise to anyone who may have overheard me at the match or that i text on the way home branding him a thug. I appreciate his efforts thus far this season and hope he continues in his current vein of form (just hope he cuts out the odd moment of madness!)

The downside of Page on Saturday is that he is suspended for this Saturday, I know some will say it's only Burton and we hammerred them recently. Breckin could also be a doubt at the same time - enter D. Hall and Big Kev. Not my ideal partnership.

[hasland_spireite]

Haslandboi, on Oct 19 2009, 07:37 AM, said:

I've never said anything of the sort.

I said he retains posession which is an invaluble asset for a League 2 team as not many do it.

I also said if you don't appreciate his talent, then you've probably never played football properly. It helps a great deal when you've got someone you can drop the ball off to and let him slow the tempo down.

What and give the opposition time to re-group pure genius

[Goku]

hasland_spireite, on Oct 19 2009, 04:09 PM, said:

What and give the opposition time to re-group pure genius

So you think all football has to be played at 100mph? Have you never heard of slowing the tempo down if things get hectic? Have you ever played football for a Sunday League team and had a midfielder who keeps posession in the centre of the park?

Oh, and well done for highlighting four words of my post and not commenting on the rest.

As you might say, "pure genious".

[hasland_spireite]

Haslandboi, on Oct 19 2009, 04:21 PM, said:

So you think all football has to be played at 100mph? Have you never heard of slowing the tempo down if things get hectic? Have you ever played football for a Sunday League team and had a midfielder who keeps posession in the centre of the park?

Oh, and well done for highlighting four words of my post and not commenting on the rest.

As you might say, "pure genious".

Thats because i agree with some of your post yes he does retain posseion SOMETIMES but there is slowing the tempo down and slowing the tempo down sometimes its required yes i agree but sometimes when you need to up the tempo he cant

and a question whats the fact me not ever playing for a team got to do with ewt?

This post has been edited by hasland_spireite: 19 October 2009 - 03:34 PM

[Goku]

hasland_spireite, on Oct 19 2009, 04:37 PM, said:

Thats because i agree with some of your post yes he does retain posseion SOMETIMES but there is slowing the tempo down and slowing the tempo down sometimes its required yes i agree but sometimes when you need to up the tempo he cant

and a question whats the fact me not ever playing for a team got to do with ewt?

He doesn't retain posession sometimes, he retains it most of the time. How often does he lost the ball?

What would you like him to do to up the tempo? Drive forward like Steven Gerrard? I don't know what he can do, he's obviously never going to be that sort of player and there aren't many players at this level who can drive forward at pace from central midfield and still have an end product.

Well, my theory is that people who haven't played football properly before don't appreciate the ability of a player like Mark Allot. It's oh-so-easy to criticise and tell him to 'get it forward' when you're in the crowd but if you take the mindset of a player on Allot's team, what would you rather him do? Try a hollywood Jamie Winteresque pass or play the short ball so it doesn't just come straight back at you?

[hasland_spireite]

Haslandboi, on Oct 19 2009, 04:42 PM, said:

He doesn't retain posession sometimes, he retains it most of the time. How often does he lost the ball?

What would you like him to do to up the tempo? Drive forward like Steven Gerrard? I don't know what he can do, he's obviously never going to be that sort of player and there aren't many players at this level who can drive forward at pace from central midfield and still have an end product.

Well, my theory is that people who haven't played football properly before don't appreciate the ability of a player like Mark Allot. It's oh-so-easy to criticise and tell him to 'get it forward' when you're in the crowd but if you take the mindset of a player on Allot's team, what would you rather him do? Try a hollywood Jamie Winteresque pass or play the short ball so it doesn't just come straight back at you?

Nuff said how could i argue with a tactical genius like yourself?

[Goku]

Yep... don't pick up on the rest of the argument, just pick one line and take it out of context

Sigh.

[hasland_spireite]

Haslandboi, on Oct 19 2009, 04:47 PM, said:

Yep... don't pick up on the rest of the argument, just pick one line and take it out of context

Sigh.

<shakes head in disbelief>

all im saying is yes allott does do certain things well il admit that but im sorry my opinion is(yes im entitled to it) he canNOT up the tempo when required which sometimes is the case

[Goku]

And I asked you how he could up the tempo to which you chose to ignore and pick on a sentence of my post.

You can't just say "this is my opinion but I refuse to back it up with any reasoning apart from its my opinion" and stick your fingers in your ears and shout loudly.

[hasland_spireite]

Haslandboi, on Oct 19 2009, 04:53 PM, said:

And I asked you how he could up the tempo to which you chose to ignore and pick on a sentence of my post.

You can't just say "this is my opinion but I refuse to back it up with any reasoning apart from its my opinion" and stick your fingers in your ears and shout loudly.

Distribute the ball quicker at times instead of taking 3 million touches to control it then having to pass it back coz every1 in front is marked up
instead of one touch(max) then bang a ball forward

[Goku]

See, that's better.

[hasland_spireite]

Haslandboi, on Oct 19 2009, 04:57 PM, said:

See, that's better.

Just my view mate