[Ross]

Don't think i dreamt this, but didn't Hubbard or Richardson say at the beginning of the season that anything other than promotion will be deemed as a failure??

Well at this stage i think i can safely stick my neck out and say;

We have zero chance of promotion this season!

We are nowhere near good enough.

We will finish mid-table, 8th/9th maybe.

[Wooden Spoon]

Ross, on Feb 3 2008, 10:34 AM, said:

The buck stops with the Manager.

If he worked in industry he would be a laughing stock.

But we are only 5 pts off automatic promotion, and have been in the play-offs all season.

[h again]

djs, on Feb 3 2008, 05:20 PM, said:

I come on this board week on week and its the same thing....a match is won and we're world beaters....a match is lost or drawn and we're worst team ever to set foot on a football pitch. If we get promotion, which is a priority however we play, the way we got it will be forgotten long term and I can bet my bottom dollar that you all will be chanting and singing on the pitch at the end of the County game or at Wembly.
To be perfectly honest I think that the performance of supporters was as bad as the players on the pitch yesdi. No atmosphere, Very little singing, And quite alot of baracking. There were a few exceptions towards the end in the middle of the kop as there were on the pitch, the fans seemed to be defeated before we had kicked off and that was translated onto the pitch.

Absolutely correct, but understandable. The trouble is, the individual players get criticised on the same basis - if we lose they're too fat/ too slow /unable to pass/ idle/ lumping the ball/being over-elaborate/neshing tackles - delete as apropriate. If we win they're the best thing since sliced bread. It's quite possible for a player to have a very good game in a bad team performance, and vice versa, but you'd never think so to read these boards.
As for the atmosphere yesterday, it was noticeable that we came out and started very slowly, which hands the initiative to the opposition, and it takes some getting back. It also shuts the crowd up, and they take even more getting back. Against Hereford and Stockport we came out of the blocks at a gallop and took the game to the opposition - yesterday we came out at a stroll, the ball was bobbling about in the air and nobody seemed very interested in doing much about it. I don't know why this happens - I hope Rico is geeing them up before they come out - but I do know that once we get into that rut we have terrible trouble in raising the game, and in some games we've never managed it at all.
Does anybody else see it this way? It looked glaringly obvious yesterday.

[Ross]

djs, on Feb 3 2008, 05:20 PM, said:

I come on this board week on week and its the same thing....a match is won and we're world beaters....a match is lost or drawn and we're worst team ever to set foot on a football pitch.
If we get promotion, which is a priority however we play, the way we got it will be forgotten long term and I can bet my bottom dollar that you all will be chanting and singing on the pitch at the end of the County game or at Wembly.
To be perfectly honest I think that the performance of supporters was as bad as the players on the pitch yesdi. No atmosphere, Very little singing, And quite alot of baracking. There were a few exceptions towards the end in the middle of the kop as there were on the pitch, the fans seemed to be defeated before we had kicked off and that was translated onto the pitch.

This blaming the atmosphere is complete BS!

I go to work every day and do a decent job without anybody chanting my name or singing my companies name.......

Poor atmosphere has to be the lamest excuse going, it's pathetic.

[Spireite-Karl]

Ross, on Feb 3 2008, 06:45 PM, said:

This blaming the atmosphere is complete BS!

I go to work every day and do a decent job without anybody chanting my name or singing my companies name.......

Poor atmosphere has to be the lamest excuse going, it's pathetic.

Footballs a totally different industury and you know it!

It plays straight into the visitors hands if they can get the home crowd on the players backs!

Having said that, I personally didn't think the atmosphere was that bad! Apart from the usual idiots having a go at Robo! Totally uncalled for and to be frank they know nothing about football as Robo look very assured and composed on the ball! Ok some of his passing went astray (non in dangerous areas), but his main role as a defender was very nearly faultless!

This post has been edited by Spireite-Karl: 03 February 2008 - 06:54 PM

[dim view]

h again, on Feb 3 2008, 06:39 PM, said:

Absolutely correct, but understandable. The trouble is, the individual players get criticised on the same basis - if we lose they're too fat/ too slow /unable to pass/ idle/ lumping the ball/being over-elaborate/neshing tackles - delete as apropriate. If we win they're the best thing since sliced bread. It's quite possible for a player to have a very good game in a bad team performance, and vice versa, but you'd never think so to read these boards.
As for the atmosphere yesterday, it was noticeable that we came out and started very slowly, which hands the initiative to the opposition, and it takes some getting back. It also shuts the crowd up, and they take even more getting back. Against Hereford and Stockport we came out of the blocks at a gallop and took the game to the opposition - yesterday we came out at a stroll, the ball was bobbling about in the air and nobody seemed very interested in doing much about it. I don't know why this happens - I hope Rico is geeing them up before they come out - but I do know that once we get into that rut we have terrible trouble in raising the game, and in some games we've never managed it at all.
Does anybody else see it this way? It looked glaringly obvious yesterday.

yep, me.

It was one of those days when nobody from either side looked as though they had a yard of pace in them. We are always crap when it is windy and bumpy.

[Ross]

death, on Feb 3 2008, 05:17 PM, said:

But we are only 5 pts off automatic promotion, and have been in the play-offs all season.

Irrelevant of league position, i have only seen us play well once this season and it was in our one off performance against Hereford. 9/10 we play very poorly.

We are only in the play-offs because Lester is having the best season of his career, and we are in a very very poor league.

If it wasn't for Lester and poor opposition we would be scrapping it out with the Scabs.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

Ross, on Feb 3 2008, 06:56 PM, said:

Irrelevant of league position, i have only seen us play well once this season and it was in our one off performance against Hereford. 9/10 we play very poorly.We are only in the play-offs because Lester is having the best season of his career, and we are in a very very poor league.

If it wasn't for Lester and poor opposition we would be scrapping it out with the Scabs.

sorry but that is absolute bolux

[Ross]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on Feb 3 2008, 06:58 PM, said:

sorry but that is absolute bolux

I have to admit i have not been away this season so my view is based on home performances and i don't think it's far off the mark.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

Ross, on Feb 3 2008, 07:02 PM, said:

I have to admit i have not been away this season so my view is based on home performances and i don't think it's far off the mark.

its still bolux

[Kev]

it is always going to be a rollercoaster ride watching football at this level and watching chesterfield is no different,young players cannot play well every second they are on the pitch you are going to get mistakes that is why they are at this level,small squad does not help but not many teams can have quality just sat on the bench waiting for a chance to get a game?yesterday chester had no quality at all but for a few seconds of madness they would not have scored at all .

[frearsghost]

death, on Feb 3 2008, 05:17 PM, said:

But we are only 5 pts off automatic promotion, and have been in the play-offs all season.

I really can't understand this, 'we are 7th' or ' we are only four points behind 2nd place.'

Why don't folk realise it's all about THE LONG TERM. Todays position is not important, its the position at the end of the season.

The current concern is that if we only win 1 of the next 7 (on current form) we are a mid table outfit.

Is a bit like the liitle Dutch boy with his finger in the Dyke. 'Everything's ok, look there's no water coming through. What's the problem?'

The problem is, that for those who have the foresight to see the wider picture, everything points to the damn bursting.

I think most fans are right. We can see the wider picture and the alarm bells are ringing. There is no way we are going to be in the play-offs come May on this form. Rico says he's got to do some thinking. He should have said that 3 months ago when we were dropping all those home points against crap opposition.

This post has been edited by frearsghost: 03 February 2008 - 07:12 PM

[frearsghost]

djs, on Feb 3 2008, 05:20 PM, said:

I come on this board week on week and its the same thing....a match is won and we're world beaters....a match is lost or drawn and we're worst team ever to set foot on a football pitch.
If we get promotion, which is a priority however we play, the way we got it will be forgotten long term and I can bet my bottom dollar that you all will be chanting and singing on the pitch at the end of the County game or at Wembly.
To be perfectly honest I think that the performance of supporters was as bad as the players on the pitch yesdi. No atmosphere, Very little singing, And quite alot of baracking. There were a few exceptions towards the end in the middle of the kop as there were on the pitch, the fans seemed to be defeated before we had kicked off and that was translated onto the pitch.

I've said should we go up I don't want Rico in charge. Long ball football is dreadful.

[antony hawkins]

frearsghost, on Feb 3 2008, 07:11 PM, said:

I really can't understand this, 'we are 7th' or ' we are only four points behind 2nd place.'

Why don't folk realise it's all about THE LONG TERM. Todays position is not important, its the position at the end of the season.

The current concern is that if we only win 1 of the next 7 (on current form) we are a mid table outfit.

Is a bit like the liitle Dutch boy with his finger in the Dyke. 'Everything's ok, look there's no water coming through. What's the problem?'

The problem is, that for those who have the foresight to see the wider picture, everything points to the damn bursting.

I think most fans are right. We can see the wider picture and the alarm bells are ringing. There is no way we are going to be in the play-offs come May on this form. Rico says he's got to do some thinking. He should have said that 3 months ago when we were dropping all those home pints against crap opposition.

Richardson is coming out with same bunkum almost every week , we have to improve, it's not good enough, i've got some thinking to do.

[frearsghost]

djs, on Feb 3 2008, 06:54 PM, said:

Bad example that m8!
no comparison is it really
Like compering sex to wash pots
One we like doing and we want more, the other is something we have to do and wish someone else would!

What you aint got a dishwasher?

[Bonnyman]

Spireite-Karl, on Feb 3 2008, 06:53 PM, said:

Footballs a totally different industury and you know it!

It plays straight into the visitors hands if they can get the home crowd on the players backs!

Having said that, I personally didn't think the atmosphere was that bad! Apart from the usual idiots having a go at Robo! Totally uncalled for and to be frank they know nothing about football as Robo look very assured and composed on the ball! Ok some of his passing went astray (non in dangerous areas), but his main role as a defender was very nearly faultless!

what did he have to defend?chester were rubbish,his distribution,corners and general play were of the worst standard,some people will defend the indefendable on here

[Ross]

frearsghost, on Feb 3 2008, 07:11 PM, said:

I really can't understand this, 'we are 7th' or ' we are only four points behind 2nd place.'

Why don't folk realise it's all about THE LONG TERM. Todays position is not important, its the position at the end of the season.

The current concern is that if we only win 1 of the next 7 (on current form) we are a mid table outfit.

Is a bit like the liitle Dutch boy with his finger in the Dyke. 'Everything's ok, look there's no water coming through. What's the problem?'

The problem is, that for those who have the foresight to see the wider picture, everything points to the damn bursting.

I think most fans are right. We can see the wider picture and the alarm bells are ringing. There is no way we are going to be in the play-offs come May on this form. Rico says he's got to do some thinking. He should have said that 3 months ago when we were dropping all those home points against crap opposition.

Well said Mr Ghost.......

frearsghost, on Feb 3 2008, 07:16 PM, said:

What you aint got a dishwasher?

And again....

[Spireite-Karl]

djs, on Feb 3 2008, 06:54 PM, said:

Bad example that m8!
no comparison is it really
Like compering sex to wash pots
One we like doing and we want more, the other is something we have to do and wish someone else would!

So you've never tried having sex while shes at the sink?

Kills two birds with one stone