[twistedspire]

I would have thought that if the extension is on the clubs favour then if the offer is on the same terms then the player has to sign, if the offer is on reduced terms then it is open to discussion.
Same as when a trigger is in place in the players favour, if they play x amount of games it can trigger an extension, but the player doesn't have to sign if they don't want but the club must offer it.

[60s 70s Spireite]

twistedspire, on 03 June 2025 - 07:54 PM, said:

I would have thought that if the extension is on the clubs favour then if the offer is on the same terms then the player has to sign, if the offer is on reduced terms then it is open to discussion.
Same as when a trigger is in place in the players favour, if they play x amount of games it can trigger an extension, but the player doesn't have to sign if they don't want but the club must offer it.

The words from the club re the retained list says:
Contract option triggered: Ryan Colclough, Vontae Daley-Campbell, Lewis Gordon, Jamie Grimes, Liam Jessop & Ashton Rinaldo.
That to me says it’s our option and they are all currently signed up for the next season.

[LondonBlue]

Metcalfe on a perm with a 6 figure fee?

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

JonB, on 03 June 2025 - 07:41 PM, said:

I would suspect it all comes down to how it’s all worded on the contract and there isn’t one standard clause across them all.

This.

It's all about what was agreed at the time of signing.

Grimes?

Agree with the 'worthwhile squad player on a (relatively) modest salary' assessment.

In fact it's a credit to both him and the Club he's happy to stay knowing those terms...

[Sammy Spireite]

SpireRam, on 03 June 2025 - 11:33 AM, said:

I’m in this camp. Play-offs found Fleck out in particular imo. Well off it.

I’m convinced that him playing 60+ minutes in Chris Bashams testimonial 24 hours after the Morecambe game did for him.

I know it wasn’t a “proper” game but by all accounts was played at a decent pace and wasn’t just a leisurely kick about.

Still think he could be a great asset with a proper pre season in him and a decent run of games.

[DerbySpireite59]

60s 70s Spireite, on 03 June 2025 - 08:06 PM, said:

The words from the club re the retained list says:
Contract option triggered: Ryan Colclough, Vontae Daley-Campbell, Lewis Gordon, Jamie Grimes, Liam Jessop & Ashton Rinaldo.
That to me says it’s our option and they are all currently signed up for the next season.

It said to me that either party had an option. e.g I'm fairly sure that Coco's was a player option.

This post has been edited by DerbySpireite59: 04 June 2025 - 07:29 AM

[Phil V 72]

60s 70s Spireite, on 03 June 2025 - 08:06 PM, said:

The words from the club re the retained list says:
Contract option triggered: Ryan Colclough, Vontae Daley-Campbell, Lewis Gordon, Jamie Grimes, Liam Jessop & Ashton Rinaldo.
That to me says it’s our option and they are all currently signed up for the next season.

In the resent DT article, it says Elliot, Jessop and Rinaldo are all being added to the squad, so that suggests to me that the club have triggered the option on the youngsters

[60s 70s Spireite]

DerbySpireite59, on 04 June 2025 - 07:28 AM, said:

It said to me that either party had an option. e.g I'm fairly sure that Coco's was a player option.

One for Paul Fisher.

[Bald magician]

After 42 pages of nonsense hopefully we get some factual information on who is staying / signing soon

[60s 70s Spireite]

Bald magician, on 04 June 2025 - 08:29 AM, said:

After 42 pages of nonsense hopefully we get some factual information on who is staying / signing soon

We’ve already had some. You must have missed it.

[SocraticCFC]

Bald magician, on 04 June 2025 - 08:29 AM, said:

After 42 pages of nonsense hopefully we get some factual information on who is staying / signing soon

I think this is a by-product of close season - speculation, disagreements, personal attacks from posters on each other, player opinions etc - completely different from the last 9 months??

[WEareSAILING]

Sammy Spireite, on 04 June 2025 - 05:16 AM, said:

I’m convinced that him playing 60+ minutes in Chris Bashams testimonial 24 hours after the Morecambe game did for him.

I know it wasn’t a “proper” game but by all accounts was played at a decent pace and wasn’t just a leisurely kick about.

Still think he could be a great asset with a proper pre season in him and a decent run of games.

Give it a rest. it was played at pedestrian pace and nobody went anywhere near him. You don't half talk some rubbish on here! If there was any doubt he wouldn't have played. do you not think our coaching staff speak with players? Was also a week before our play off game and the players didn't report back into training till Tuesday or Wednesday. Miles off it yet again.

[Osborne again]

I haven't a clue who we'll sign, but I'd definitely like to see Metcalfe, Markanday and a Mike Jones clone for a start. I think we may already have our new Ollie Banks and that's Mandy. He may not be a like for like replacement but he'd do a good job. I'm not saying we don't need any midfielders to sign, but I think Liam Mandeville is our Swiss army knife and can play anywhere, although centre half maybe a push.

[WEareSAILING]

Osborne again, on 04 June 2025 - 09:12 AM, said:

I haven't a clue who we'll sign, but I'd definitely like to see Metcalfe, Markanday and a Mike Jones clone for a start. I think we may already have our new Ollie Banks and that's Mandy. He may not be a like for like replacement but he'd do a good job. I'm not saying we don't need any midfielders to sign, but I think Liam Mandeville is our Swiss army knife and can play anywhere, although centre half maybe a push.

When was the last time mandy played through the middle of the pitch or off the striker? He isnt a banks replacement at all..

[GrassmoorSpireite]

We’ve got a quality number 10 already in Madden, he just needs a good pre season

I think everyone needs to write off last season as we were completely hammered with injuries so we could never really play our best team on a longish run of games

We can’t really judge people and write them off before they’ve even had a good length of game time

This post has been edited by GrassmoorSpireite: 04 June 2025 - 09:19 AM

[WEareSAILING]

GrassmoorSpireite, on 04 June 2025 - 09:19 AM, said:

We’ve got a quality number 10 already in Madden, he just needs a good pre season

I think everyone needs to write off last season as we were completely hammered with injuries so we could never really play our best team on a longish run of games

We can’t really judge people and write them off before they’ve even had a good length of game time

Same Madden who hasnt played since he had a bust up with cook in April infront of the West Stand? He's off.

[JonB]

WEareSAILING, on 04 June 2025 - 09:14 AM, said:

When was the last time mandy played through the middle of the pitch or off the striker? He isnt a banks replacement at all..

He did it during the post xmas spell when we changed to more of a 4-1-4-1 formation and we put a bit of a run together despite numerous injuries.

[WEareSAILING]

JonB, on 04 June 2025 - 09:23 AM, said:

He did it during the post xmas spell when we changed to more of a 4-1-4-1 formation and we put a bit of a run together despite numerous injuries.

From boxing day didn't we win 2 in 10 matches?

[GrassmoorSpireite]

WEareSAILING, on 04 June 2025 - 09:22 AM, said:

Same Madden who hasnt played since he had a bust up with cook in April infront of the West Stand? He's off.

Is this the same Madden who was having one to one training with Ben Partridge in JD Gym the day before the 2nd leg at Walsall?

Now if it was me and he was ‘left to rot’ I wouldn’t be focusing any individual physio time towards him.

People argue in football, shows passion and he won’t be the first or last player to get ‘aggy’ with Cookie. Maybe he felt he could have made a difference in the game and was angry he wasn’t selected to come onto the field? Jesus the amount of fans who get mardy regarding timings of Paul Cook subs, so you can be sure the players get frustrated as well

[WEareSAILING]

GrassmoorSpireite, on 04 June 2025 - 09:30 AM, said:

Is this the same Madden who was having one to one training with Ben Partridge in JD Gym the day before the 2nd leg at Walsall?

Now if it was me and he was ‘left to rot’ I wouldn’t be focusing any individual physio time towards him.

People argue in football, shows passion and he won’t be the first or last player to get ‘aggy’ with Cookie. Maybe he felt he could have made a difference in the game and was angry he wasn’t selected to come onto the field? Jesus the amount of fans who get mardy regarding timings of Paul Cook subs, so you can be sure the players get frustrated as well

The club have an obligation to keep players fit and look after them. Unless he was injured, why wasnt he involved towards the end of the season and through out the play offs? critical time of the season, nowhere to be seen..?