[Misnomer]

 oldgoat, on 24 May 2025 - 09:19 PM, said:

The difference is I don't care but you are obsessed with him

So, you have provided zero evidence, cos you can't find ANYTHING 🤣 and then, you point the finger at me, declaring I'm obsessed with him (I don't think I've ever written a single thing about him on here, except in response to you and others calling him a racist). I reckon CPS has conducted some serious entryism....

Let me help you...

For the record, he misguidedly and very briefly joined the BNP, quickly left, and formed the EDL. The EDL had members from all races. As the EDL grew in size and eclipsed the BNP, the EDL was infiltrated by Nick Griffin's members (who were/are far-right extremists). At multiple events, he stood on stage, holding the hand of his mate and Sikh EDL leader, TR told the audience - if any of them held racist views, they needed to leave. Some BNP members were in the audiences at these events, and made themselves known - subsequently, they got a kicking from the EDL members.

TR's best mate is a black guy. He has Muslim friends.It's easy to refer to someone as a racist, when it suits a narrative and you know absolutely nothing about the person. Objecting to Sharia law, doesn't make you a racist or, I'm loathe to say it, Islamophobic.

He's the one who brought the rape gangs to the fore, so it's obvious why certain people needed him out of the way. Nobody was talking about it, the MSM purposely ignored it; it was being hushed up and swept under the carpet - he chose to expose it.

The reason you and others can't find a SINGLE thing where he's given you the chance to evidence his racism is because, there isn't anything.

[Mr Mercury]

Goku, on 01 June 2025 - 06:46 AM, said:

So for reference, here is the Telegraph article on the subject above:

https://www.telegrap...tion-southport/

This is some of the worst reporting I’ve ever come across:



So 1) her sentence was decided independently from the AG’s office and 2) he’s obviously not going to prevent the prosecution, he’s literally doing his job and his decision was justified by the fact Lucy Connolly plead guilty. The Telegraph is suggesting that he should’ve refused to sign off on the prosecution - on what grounds? The fact she’s spouting far right shite and the right are perpetual victims who should be allowed to do whatever they want, I assume.

Why didn’t she plead not guilty? She only said “mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care… if that makes me racist, so be it”

I believe it’s called “fuck around and find out”. She fucked around, and she found out. Time for the right (perpetual victims) to get over it. Oh, and from the same article:



So the CPS had already essentially determined that in their opinion she’d committed a crime, why would he not sign off on it?

��Always the victims, it’s never your fault��

Apologies mate I missed this due to it being the last post on the page.
Ok then she pleaded guilty, she shouldn’t have, she was obviously under pressure but it is what it is…
Let’s look at her appeal, when the mitigating factors of the stress of losing a child a few years before, her young daughter struggling with missing her mother, her husbands ill health, her requests for day leave to see her young daughter refused, all refused by an appeal panel. Remember she’s in jail for a tweet, not physical violence, not battery, not a sexual crime, but a tweet. You then look at the appeal panel, one of the judges on the panel reduced a sentence for a sex offender, a peadophile no less, who had received a jail term for attempted rape of a girl, and for an act of sodomy against a boy under the age of 11, that was reported in the press using those words. He ended up having to serve a sentence less of that of Lucy’s. Lucy’s appeal was refused. The judge who sat on both appeals is, in my opinion, is a human louse.
Then look at all the criminals, many serious ones, being released early from their jail time, and Lucy’s appeal being refused. IMHO, there’s 100% political interference in this case to try to subdue people’s political opinion. We obviously disagree on the case, but that’s life. I’m happy with the side I’m taking, are you?
Looking forward to hearing her story once she’s free and, like I’ve said before, I hope she makes an Effing she’d load of cash dishing the dirt on two tier Justice and two tier Kier.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 01 June 2025 - 07:23 PM

[Misnomer]

 Mr Mercury, on 01 June 2025 - 07:18 PM, said:

Apologies mate I missed this due to it being the last post on the page.
Ok then she pleaded guilty, she shouldn’t have, she was obviously under pressure but it is what it is…
Let’s look at her appeal, when the mitigating factors of the stress of losing a child a few years before, her young daughter struggling with missing her mother, her husbands ill health, her requests for day leave to see her young daughter refused, all refused by an appeal panel. Remember she’s in jail for a tweet, not physical violence, not battery, not a sexual crime, but a tweet. You then look at the appeal panel, one of the judges on the panel reduced a sentence for a sex offender, a peadophile no less, who had received a jail term for attempted rape of a girl, and for an act of sodomy against a boy under the age of 11, that was reported in the press using those words. He ended up having to serve a sentence less of that of Lucy’s. Lucy’s appeal was refused. The judge who sat on both appeals is, in my opinion, is a human louse.
Then look at all the criminals, many serious ones, being released early from their jail time, and Lucy’s appeal being refused. IMHO, there’s 100% political interference in this case to try to subdue people’s political opinion. We obviously disagree on the case, but that’s life. I’m happy with the side I’m taking, are you?
Looking forward to hearing her story once she’s free and, like I’ve said before, I hope she makes an Effing she’d load of cash dishing the dirt on two tier Justice and two tier Kier.

She's a political prisoner, Merc. End of story. It's an absolute disgrace.

Still, wait until Reform get elected, and some left-wing tit sends a tweet that the Right don't like....and they get a three stretch in Belmarsh. Then get ready for the hypocrisy to start.

[Goku]

 Mr Mercury, on 01 June 2025 - 07:18 PM, said:

Apologies mate I missed this due to it being the last post on the page.
Ok then she pleaded guilty, she shouldn’t have, she was obviously under pressure but it is what it is…
Let’s look at her appeal, when the mitigating factors of the stress of losing a child a few years before, her young daughter struggling with missing her mother, her husbands ill health, her requests for day leave to see her young daughter refused, all refused by an appeal panel. Remember she’s in jail for a tweet, not physical violence, not battery, not a sexual crime, but a tweet. You then look at the appeal panel, one of the judges on the panel reduced a sentence for a sex offender, a peadophile no less, who had received a jail term for attempted rape of a girl, and for an act of sodomy against a boy under the age of 11, that was reported in the press using those words. He ended up having to serve a sentence less of that of Lucy’s. Lucy’s appeal was refused. The judge who sat on both appeals is, in my opinion, is a human louse.
Then look at all the criminals, many serious ones, being released early from their jail time, and Lucy’s appeal being refused. IMHO, there’s 100% political interference in this case to try to subdue people’s political opinion. We obviously disagree on the case, but that’s life. I’m happy with the side I’m taking, are you?
Looking forward to hearing her story once she’s free and, like I’ve said before, I hope she makes an Effing she’d load of cash dishing the dirt on two tier Justice and two tier Kier.

You will always find cases of people who get lesser sentences than what you would expect and vice versa. 4 Members of Just Stop Oil received sentences of between 18-30 months each a few days ago for planning (not even carrying out) disruption. Where are the cries of two tier justice there?

Do I think the sentence is a tad harsh? Yeah, just like I do for the JSO folk. In a previous job I would sometimes have to interact with people who had been convicted for sex offences, often laughably short sentences and many who avoided jail entirely on suspended sentences. I thought they should have longer sentences generally. This has always been the case - people look at sentences and will think they should be longer or shorter. If you compare sentences of different people committing different types of crimes you will always be able to find some which seem to make no sense when compared to another. T’was ever thus.

Unfortunately, she’s a right winger who spouted right wing filth and is now going down as some sort of martyr, because as perpetual victims, nothing the right get done for is ever their fault. Tragic.

[Mr Mercury]

Goku, on 01 June 2025 - 09:29 PM, said:

You will always find cases of people who get lesser sentences than what you would expect and vice versa. 4 Members of Just Stop Oil received sentences of between 18-30 months each a few days ago for planning (not even carrying out) disruption. Where are the cries of two tier justice there?

Do I think the sentence is a tad harsh? Yeah, just like I do for the JSO folk. In a previous job I would sometimes have to interact with people who had been convicted for sex offences, often laughably short sentences and many who avoided jail entirely on suspended sentences. I thought they should have longer sentences generally. This has always been the case - people look at sentences and will think they should be longer or shorter. If you compare sentences of different people committing different types of crimes you will always be able to find some which seem to make no sense when compared to another. T’was ever thus.

Unfortunately, she’s a right winger who spouted right wing filth and is now going down as some sort of martyr, because as perpetual victims, nothing the right get done for is ever their fault. Tragic.

Very sensible post until the last paragraph.
The fact her appeal was refused given all the extenuating circumstances etc is, well, criminal. And does it lend her to being a “martyr”, well in some respects, yes I think it does.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 01 June 2025 - 09:43 PM

[Wooden Spoon]

The sentence the JSO lot received was just as outrageous, more so even than this woman


The only illegality it seems that is tolerated by the state is entering the country


There have been posters on this board who 5 years ago (ish) did a Lineker and said they would happily house migrants who are now saying it’s totally out of control


And HB, you really need to take a step back and realise there are 50 shades of grey and not black and white. Being on the right of your view isnt automatically fascist - fascism is many many miles right of where you are

This post has been edited by Wooden Spoon: 01 June 2025 - 09:42 PM

[Goku]

 Mr Mercury, on 01 June 2025 - 09:40 PM, said:

Very sensible post until the last paragraph.
The fact her appeal was refused given all the extenuating circumstances etc is, well, criminal.

I will accept it does seem harsh

[Wooden Spoon]

Goku, on 01 June 2025 - 09:42 PM, said:

I will accept it does seem harsh

You will eventually realise that every point of view that is of the right of yours isn’t automatically fascists extremism

[Westbars Spireite]

Having seen the post she made in full, I think it’s ridiculous that it was deemed to be a police matter in the first place.

[calvin plummers socks]

She’s not a political prisoner - she is inside for tweeting violent beliefs.
She’d have got the same under which ever government - people really believe otherwise is nonsense and stupidity.

She lost a child - oh dear that’s terrible of course but for the idiots to keep spouting this is a disgrace to all the thousands who have also lost children and don’t feel the need to break any laws.

She was a nasty spiteful right wing racist and deserves every minute inside.
If you can’t do the time don’t do the crime …..

[Misnomer]

 calvin plummers socks, on 02 June 2025 - 08:10 AM, said:

She’s not a political prisoner - she is inside for tweeting violent beliefs.
She’d have got the same under which ever government - people really believe otherwise is nonsense and stupidity.



She lost a child - oh dear that’s terrible of course but for the idiots to keep spouting this is a disgrace to all the thousands who have also lost children and don’t feel the need to break any laws.

She was a nasty spiteful right wing racist and deserves every minute inside.
If you can’t do the time don’t do the crime …..

It's an arrestable offence to carry a knife/machete, hammer, which can carry a four years prison sentence - your brethren, in their many, were casually walking around, brandishing them, ready to attack 'whitey', right in front of the police. If it's the 'same', as you say, under any government, why weren't they arrested? They were blatantly breaking the law.

And, what's worse, a tweet or some cúnt walking around with a machete, looking to kill someone?

[Goku]

 Wooden Spoon, on 01 June 2025 - 10:23 PM, said:

You will eventually realise that every point of view that is of the right of yours isn’t automatically fascists extremism

I don’t know why you keep saying that, I’m very aware, but people attacking hotels and trying to burn them down definitely is extremism. I accurately describe right wing things as right wing things. Having concerns over immigration isn’t in and of itself right wing, it depends on the reasoning for those concerns, the proposed solutions and all manner of other things. Plenty of people in the centre and to the left have concerns over immigration.

[calvin plummers socks]

 Misnomer, on 02 June 2025 - 08:20 AM, said:

It's an arrestable offence to carry a knife/machete, hammer, which can carry a four years prison sentence - your brethren, in their many, were casually walking around, brandishing them, ready to attack 'whitey', right in front of the police. If it's the 'same', as you say, under any government, why weren't they arrested? They were blatantly breaking the law.

And, what's worse, a tweet or some cúnt walking around with a machete, looking to kill someone?

Enough with the “your brethren”- even you are better than that

[Westbars Spireite]

 calvin plummers socks, on 02 June 2025 - 08:10 AM, said:

She’s not a political prisoner - she is inside for tweeting violent beliefs.
She’d have got the same under which ever government - people really believe otherwise is nonsense and stupidity.

She lost a child - oh dear that’s terrible of course but for the idiots to keep spouting this is a disgrace to all the thousands who have also lost children and don’t feel the need to break any laws.

She was a nasty spiteful right wing racist and deserves every minute inside.
If you can’t do the time don’t do the crime …..

I don't believe that saying unpleasant things, in the way she did, should be something that the state gets involved in.

[Misnomer]

 Goku, on 02 June 2025 - 08:25 AM, said:

I don’t know why you keep saying that, I’m very aware, but people attacking hotels and trying to burn them down definitely is extremism. I accurately describe right wing things as right wing things. Having concerns over immigration isn’t in and of itself right wing, it depends on the reasoning for those concerns, the proposed solutions and all manner of other things. Plenty of people in the centre and to the left have concerns over immigration.

No more so than pro Palestine protesters all being anti-Semitic, surely?

You have no evidence whatsoever that, they were 'extremists'. Nobody was launching Molotov cocktails, nobody was launching fireworks; some bellend decided to try, very unsuccessfully, to set fire to part of the hotel (to be very clear to the pendants, ready to pounce; I'm specifically referring to events in Rotherham, which I believe was the only hotel which was subjected to attempted arson. One person has been convicted for attempted arson). Even the recent police report has clearly stated it wasn't remotely connected to rightwing extremism..... maybe you know summat they don't.

By your logic, those in Paris, attacking the police, attacking women in their cars (that was a particularly distressing watch), setting fire to multiple cars and shops - let's face it, WAY worse than what happened in Rotherham, they all must be extremists?

This post has been edited by Misnomer: 02 June 2025 - 01:25 PM

[Misnomer]

 calvin plummers socks, on 02 June 2025 - 09:42 AM, said:

Enough with the “your brethren”- even you are better than that

As per, Mike; you're swerving the question.

Which is worse: a tweet, that nobody in their right mind foresore the possibility of bringing on a three stretch; or a bloke(s) walking around with machetes, knives and hammers, looking to kill white people?

One is incitement (according to the judiciary), the other is an already a predetermined spell inside. So, why is one person in prison, and the others walking around free as birds? It's not like there isn't CCTV and police BWV of the fkrs.

[Goku]

Misnomer, on 02 June 2025 - 01:16 PM, said:

No more so than pro Palestine protesters all being anti-Semitic, surely?

You have no evidence whatsoever that, they were 'extremists'. Nobody was launching Molotov cocktails, nobody was launching fireworks; some bellend decided to try, very unsuccessfully, to set fire to part of the hotel (to be very clear to the pendants, ready to pounce; I'm specifically referring to events in Rotherham, which I believe was the only hotel which was subjected to attempted arson. One person has been convicted for attempted arson). Even the recent police report has clearly stated it wasn't remotely connected to rightwing extremism..... maybe you know summat they don't.

By your logic, those in Paris, attacking the police, attacking women in their cars (that was a particularly distressing watch), setting fire to multiple cars and shops - let's face it, WAY worse than what happened in Rotherham, they all must be extremists?

Hmm, I would call them extremists personally (people attacking police, women in cars, setting fire to shops, setting fire to hotels housing asylum seekers etc) but apparently the police don't class them as that, according to the report you mention. Maybe massive bell ends, then.

Re. the report you mention, it states: "Most offenders lived locally to the scenes of disorder. We found that it was mostly disaffected individuals, influencers or groups that incited people to act violently and take part in disorder, rather than criminal factions or extremists. And it was mainly unrelated to their ideology or political views."

I don't know how they can reach that conclusion without canvassing the rioters' opinions on the matter which I assume they didn't do. They confirm that "mostly disaffected individuals, influencers or groups that incited people to act violently and take part in disorder, rather than criminal factions or extremists." so yes, the police don't class these people as extremists, I suppose it's where do you draw the line and it becomes a personal definition thing. As a balanced, open-minded poster, I am happy to revise my comment to "it is my opinion that most of the people rioting were right wing bell ends"

Anyway, I'm glad you've brought reports up, because there was that one about Southport in April which confirmed there was no two tier policing. Hopefully you accepted that verdict, although maybe you know summat they don't?

[Misnomer]

 Goku, on 02 June 2025 - 02:43 PM, said:

Hmm, I would call them extremists personally (people attacking police, women in cars, setting fire to shops, setting fire to hotels housing asylum seekers etc) but apparently the police don't class them as that, according to the report you mention. Maybe massive bell ends, then.

Re. the report you mention, it states: "Most offenders lived locally to the scenes of disorder. We found that it was mostly disaffected individuals, influencers or groups that incited people to act violently and take part in disorder, rather than criminal factions or extremists. And it was mainly unrelated to their ideology or political views."

I don't know how they can reach that conclusion without canvassing the rioters' opinions on the matter which I assume they didn't do. They confirm that "mostly disaffected individuals, influencers or groups that incited people to act violently and take part in disorder, rather than criminal factions or extremists." so yes, the police don't class these people as extremists, I suppose it's where do you draw the line and it becomes a personal definition thing. As a balanced, open-minded poster, I am happy to revise my comment to "it is my opinion that most of the people rioting were right wing bell ends"

Anyway, I'm glad you've brought reports up, because there was that one about Southport in April which confirmed there was no two tier policing. Hopefully you accepted that verdict, although maybe you know summat they don't?

As you would say to me, this is false equivalence 😏

You're talking about the Home Affairs Committee report?

This is their conclusion:

The right to protest is fundamental in our democracy and we would take seriously any evidence that peaceful protest was being suppressed based on the political views expressed. However, we have seen no evidence that this was the case during the summer. Far from being evidence of ‘two-tier policing’, the policing response last summer was
entirely appropriate given the levels of violence and criminality that were
on display. It was disgraceful to see unsubstantiated commentary about
‘two-tier policing’ undermining the efforts of police officers who served
bravely in the face of violence.

Nobody on here, including me, has ever said the police response to quell the rioting, was anything but just. Some commentators said there were differences in how the police dealt with protests/riots by BLM, pro Palestine, Trans v last summer's riots - maybe, maybe not.

However, as a balanced, open-minded poster; what I will say is: "it is my opinion that, most of the people involved in the judiciary, the user of Ukraine rent boy arsonists, and the police, are left-wing bellends, who have orchestrated a two tier judiciary and police service"

[Goku]

Well if we’re going after users of Ukrainian rent boy arsonists we’re all fucked aren’t we

[Mr Mercury]

Goku, on 02 June 2025 - 07:54 PM, said:

Well if we’re going after users of Ukrainian rent boy arsonists we’re all fucked aren’t we

Nah, just senior, very senior, left wing politicians, allegedly, who invoke more injunctions that you can shake a dirty stick at.