[Search & Destroy]

It really is out of control

Ramp up stop and search and a mandatory 5 year sentence for carrying

https://www.bbc.co.u...es/cp9yvlvx4jpo

[isleaiw1]

Had to permanently exclude a kid recently for making a knife in school. Probably started with being dragged into the wrong gang culture a couple of schools ago. Did seem to be making some progress with great efforts from teachers and parents, but one instance of young boys being macho and he reverted to old ways.

Not sure sending them to where they can learn even worse things is the sution - and can a 15 year old get a mandatory 5 year sentence...

[Valley Blues]

If stabbing somebody in the chest with what was reportedly an 18” knife in the middle of the day in Nottingham Primark results in a 12 month referral order then I think it’s fair to say the country’s gone.

Mitigating factors that he was being chased and threatened but being in possession of an 18” knife should, IMO, lead to a custodial sentence regardless.

[Blue roan lily]

Valley Blues, on 10 April 2025 - 11:14 AM, said:

If stabbing somebody in the chest with what was reportedly an 18” knife in the middle of the day in Nottingham Primark results in a 12 month referral order then I think it’s fair to say the country’s gone.

Mitigating factors that he was being chased and threatened but being in possession of an 18” knife should, IMO, lead to a custodial sentence regardless.

And that is exactly why knife crime in this country is becoming an epidemic
There is just no deterrent
And its not just knife crime
Theft,anti social behaviour etc is rife across the country

This post has been edited by Blue roan lily: 10 April 2025 - 12:06 PM

[Spire-ite]

A man is being held on suspicion of murder. Read more: https://trib.al/61CX1yo

[Westbars Spireite]

 Spire-ite, on 07 May 2025 - 01:50 PM, said:

A man is being held on suspicion of murder. Read more: https://trib.al/61CX1yo

Horrendous.

[Wooden Spoon]

 Blue roan lily, on 10 April 2025 - 12:04 PM, said:

And that is exactly why knife crime in this country is becoming an epidemic
There is just no deterrent
And its not just knife crime
Theft,anti social behaviour etc is rife across the country

The law allows for much stronger sentences than that. The country needs to instruct the judges - a stabbing doesn’t deserve the sentence of some nasty face book post

 Westbars Spireite, on 07 May 2025 - 05:46 PM, said:

Horrendous.

Lawless city centres

[Valley Blues]

https://www.bbc.co.u...es/c1egedj1wqdo

Man charged.

Dragged out of multi occupancy Serco accommodation.

Two and two sometimes makes five but very often makes four.

This post has been edited by Valley Blues: 08 May 2025 - 08:09 AM

[Painted Wagon]

 Valley Blues, on 08 May 2025 - 08:06 AM, said:

https://www.bbc.co.u...es/c1egedj1wqdo

Man charged.

Dragged out of multi occupancy Serco accommodation.

Two and two sometimes makes five but very often makes four.

Where do we go from here? At what point do we say enough is enough?

[Johnnyspireite7]

Valley Blues, on 08 May 2025 - 08:06 AM, said:

https://www.bbc.co.u...es/c1egedj1wqdo

Man charged.

Dragged out of multi occupancy Serco accommodation.

Two and two sometimes makes five but very often makes four.

Multi occupancy Serco Accommodation that has been in place since 2019.

[Valley Blues]

 Johnnyspireite7, on 08 May 2025 - 09:49 AM, said:

Multi occupancy Serco Accommodation that has been in place since 2019.

And?

What difference does that make?

[clarevoyant.]

Valley Blues, on 08 May 2025 - 10:11 AM, said:

And?

What difference does that make?

Maybe:-
Culture, peer pressure being influential.

[Johnnyspireite7]

Valley Blues, on 08 May 2025 - 10:11 AM, said:

And?

What difference does that make?

Before it's used as a stick to beat the current government with, who knows how long the culprit has been in this country?

[Mr Mercury]

 Johnnyspireite7, on 08 May 2025 - 10:43 AM, said:

Before it's used as a stick to beat the current government with, who knows how long the culprit has been in this country?

How about them revealing the information then, likewise the Iranians who were arrested at the weekend over the terror plot. Where were they living, how long have they been in the UK, how did they arrive in the UK, what’s their immigration status?
A bit of transparency rather than the Southport subterfuge wouldn’t go amiss.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 08 May 2025 - 01:37 PM