[calvin plummers socks]

 isleaiw1, on 04 May 2025 - 05:10 PM, said:

You should stand for a council and give them the benefit of your skills then...

No need to- I just read Mercurys posts - he’s the expert on everything

[Mr Mercury]

Misnomer, on 04 May 2025 - 03:15 PM, said:

Looks like you aren't going to respond so....

You could have simply said you disagree with what I'd written, and then offered several reasons why. Instead, you chose to unnecessarily escalate it, go down the personal route and offered nothing but vile (and wholly untrue) insults. And, I'm the one who's meant to be the fascist....reminds me of a certain councilor and his 'lets slit their throats' anti-fascism.

All I've done, as demonstrated by Reform sweeping the board, is state what people (not all) are thinking and why they are voting for Reform. In essence, all you are doing is, allowing your own bigotry to surface; calling all Reform voters, far-right fascists. Which, as I keep on saying is, playing right into the hands of Reform.

Furthermore, your previous posts, showing smug contempt of Reform gaining seats, coupled with your disgusting attitude towards working class people exercising their democratic rights, just further highlights why Labour will fall off a cliff; you're literally parroting the far-right nonsense slurring rhetoric of Starmer and the Labour party.

Your last paragraph got me thinking, yep I’m sure some can hear the cogs turning.

We see it all over the media, all over social media, and indeed all over these threads by the usual suspects. From the sly, to the blatantly obvious, the digs, sneers and smears at Reform voters being easily led, thick, zealots, moronic, bigoted, far right, racist idiots who haven’t got a brain cell between them.
Then you look at the areas where Reform have got huge numbers of votes, areas like Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Lincolnshire, the North East and Runcorn in the North West, and you come to realise that these smears will, in a round about way, actually be levelled at their friends, work colleagues, even other, maybe close, family members.
Thankfully the penny has dropped amongst millions of ordinary Brits, that those sneering and smearing those who vote Reform, just won’t see or can’t see or accept their concerns, the concerns of those very ordinary working class Brits they claim to stand alongside and champion, and they really don’t care anymore, they want to be heard, and at last they are being listened to.
That’s why Starmer and his lousy anti British government are falling so far and so fast, and his answer is to go harder and faster. Never, ever have the British public been so betrayed by a government they thought would protect them.

[Mr Mercury]

Wooden Spoon, on 04 May 2025 - 07:04 PM, said:

So explain which bits are wrong?

Which parts, in his words, “most people don’t” has he got wrong?


Just shouting “he’s a witch” isn’t good enough

To be honest I think misnomer got it wrong, substitute “most people” for the “vast majority of people”, and he’d have been much nearer the mark. Hence Reforms massive success.

[Goku]

 Mr Mercury, on 04 May 2025 - 07:29 PM, said:

Your last paragraph got me thinking, yep I’m sure some can hear the cogs turning.

We see it all over the media, all over social media, and indeed all over these threads by the usual suspects. From the sly, to the blatantly obvious, the digs, sneers and smears at Reform voters being easily led, thick, zealots, moronic, bigoted, far right, racist idiots who haven’t got a brain cell between them.
Then you look at the areas where Reform have got huge numbers of votes, areas like Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire, Lincolnshire, the North East and Runcorn in the North West, and you come to realise that these smears will, in a round about way, actually be levelled at their friends, work colleagues, even other, maybe close, family members.
Thankfully the penny has dropped amongst millions of ordinary Brits, that those sneering and smearing those who vote Reform, just won’t see or can’t see or accept their concerns, the concerns of those very ordinary working class Brits they claim to stand alongside and champion, and they really don’t care anymore, they want to be heard, and at last they are being listened to.
That’s why Starmer and his lousy anti British government are falling so far and so fast, and his answer is to go harder and faster. Never, ever have the British public been so betrayed by a government they thought would protect them.

I’m deffo talking about family members when I call vast swathes of the electorate thick. Got some proper thick family members who will 100% have voted Reform, no qualms saying that.

[Mr Mercury]

Goku, on 04 May 2025 - 07:40 PM, said:

I’m deffo talking about family members when I call vast swathes of the electorate thick. Got some proper thick family members who will 100% have voted Reform, no qualms saying that.

It’s falling on deaf ears mate, but keep it up.

[isleaiw1]

 Goku, on 04 May 2025 - 07:40 PM, said:

I’m deffo talking about family members when I call vast swathes of the electorate thick. Got some proper thick family members who will 100% have voted Reform, no qualms saying that.

I wonder what they say about you and your choices

[Goku]

 isleaiw1, on 04 May 2025 - 07:46 PM, said:

I wonder what they say about you and your choices

One of them spent years hunting Bigfoot so I’m fine with them not rating my choices, in fact I actively encourage it 😂

[isleaiw1]

 Goku, on 04 May 2025 - 08:02 PM, said:

One of them spent years hunting Bigfoot so I’m fine with them not rating my choices, in fact I actively encourage it 😂

Did they not find it, pretty poor show... I just asked Nessie and she gave me directions.

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[Mr Mercury]

You’re more likely to find Bigfoot on the streets of the UK than you are Starmer.

[dim view]

dim view, on 04 May 2025 - 11:24 AM, said:

He may have been extrapolating his thoughts to what his colleagues in Kent are thinking.

Unless I'm not reading the results right, Kent County is now controlled by Reform. Reform's 'Boat' policy is to transport them straight back to France as soon as they land - Richard Tice said this on't telly last week.

I'd like to see the Council hook up the very next boat, pull it to a French beach, and see wor happens.

Let's give Starmer the opportunity to manage the problem.

Bump
Can anybody indulge me in this please?

What would Starmer do if the Chief Officer of Kent County Council was ordered to organise an operation to tow a full boat back to France?
Tice says it would immediately stop the boats. Would it be illegal?

[Wooden Spoon]

dim view, on 04 May 2025 - 09:18 PM, said:

Bump
Can anybody indulge me in this please?

What would Starmer do if the Chief Officer of Kent County Council was ordered to organise an operation to tow a full boat back to France?
Tice says it would immediately stop the boats. Would it be illegal?

If you turned them back in international waters and before they landed then no. It would not be illegal

Italy recently refused a ship that was picking up small boats in the med permission to enter port

[calvin plummers socks]

 dim view, on 04 May 2025 - 09:18 PM, said:

Bump
Can anybody indulge me in this please?

What would Starmer do if the Chief Officer of Kent County Council was ordered to organise an operation to tow a full boat back to France?
Tice says it would immediately stop the boats. Would it be illegal?

Kent County Council don’t have any control over the sea

[Wooden Spoon]

https://www.gov.uk/g...tsheet#contents



Nationality and Borders Bill-


Providing Border Force with powers to stop and redirect vessels suspected of carrying irregular arrivals out of UK seas or return them to where their sea journey began.


So in theory they (Kent council) could send a request to UKBF to do this and publish any response if they refuse?

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[dim view]

calvin plummers socks, on 04 May 2025 - 09:35 PM, said:

Kent County Council don’t have any control over the sea

Ta. I didn't know that. Do I have to take that into account?

[Valley Blues]

 isleaiw1, on 04 May 2025 - 03:59 PM, said:

Already seeing that Reform are threatening to take the Home Office to court to limit asylum seekers in reform controlled areas. It wont stop them coming but it will make dealing with them.that much harder should they win the case...

Reform challenging the use of hotels to house asylum seekers as once they enter into long term arrangements they no longer operate as hotels but become hostels so not what the hotels are permitted to do?

Is this right, as a ( former ) hotelier?

[Search & Destroy]

From the village chat


I’m posting this as a very concerned resident of this village, I was born and raised in creswell and still live in it.
On Wednesday the 30th April one day before the election of councillors in the events centre. I had a phone call with SERCO who are a company employed by the Labour government to house immigrant / asylum seekers in the uk. SERCO were speaking to me as I’m a landlord of properties some within creswell. They are wanting private landlords to hand over their properties to them to house these people. The financial gain from passing my houses to SERCO to then house these people is absolutely mind blowing. I can honestly tell you all that although the incentives are unbelievable I will definitely not be letting this happen in my properties.
I write this as a warning, the labour government are implementing this scheme and that is why on the 1st may I voted for reform. I’m very sorry Christian but I feel that I had no option. Creswell is under threat as is surrounding villages/ towns and cities while ever labour are in power.
I’m very proud of my village and only want it to improve as we go forward into the future.






Landlords who collaborate with SERCO are scabs

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[Search & Destroy]

I went to a meeting last Saturday at the Community Centre in Whitwell. There is a growing concern from residents in both Whitwell and Hodthorpe about SERCO housing asylum seekers in their communities. The meeting was called because the asylum persons have been seen sitting in the children’s play areas and taking photos on their mobile phones of the girls.

Three members of the police and three members of the council were at the meeting. It was stated that no offences are being committed by the taking of photos, regardless of there being no explanation of the reason for taking the photos.

SERCO is a private company and have been tasked by the government to find accommodation for asylum seekers in any area. They are approaching hotels, HMOs and private landlords with very generous offers. The councils in the areas are not informed about any placements.

[Goku]

 Search & Destroy, on 05 May 2025 - 07:12 AM, said:

From the village chat


I’m posting this as a very concerned resident of this village, I was born and raised in creswell and still live in it.
On Wednesday the 30th April one day before the election of councillors in the events centre. I had a phone call with SERCO who are a company employed by the Labour government to house immigrant / asylum seekers in the uk. SERCO were speaking to me as I’m a landlord of properties some within creswell. They are wanting private landlords to hand over their properties to them to house these people. The financial gain from passing my houses to SERCO to then house these people is absolutely mind blowing. I can honestly tell you all that although the incentives are unbelievable I will definitely not be letting this happen in my properties.
I write this as a warning, the labour government are implementing this scheme and that is why on the 1st may I voted for reform. I’m very sorry Christian but I feel that I had no option. Creswell is under threat as is surrounding villages/ towns and cities while ever labour are in power.
I’m very proud of my village and only want it to improve as we go forward into the future.






Landlords who collaborate with SERCO are scabs

I too believe everything I read on the internet

Tbf wouldn’t surprise me if it was true. I imagine they’re trying to get costs down, and even offering above the market rate for a rental property would be cheaper than a hotel room. Funny how the person writing it states that SERCO are employed by the Labour government like they went out and appointed them. SERCO been employed by the Government for years now. Our lass’ Dad works for them.

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[Search & Destroy]

Tents, behind fences, big fences

[Wooden Spoon]

 Goku, on 05 May 2025 - 07:23 AM, said:

I too believe everything I read on the internet

Tbf wouldn’t surprise me if it was true. I imagine they’re trying to get costs down, and even offering above the market rate for a rental property would be cheaper than a hotel room. Funny how the person writing it states that SERCO are employed by the Labour government like they went out and appointed them. SERCO been employed by the Government for years now. Our lass’ Dad works for them.

If you’d seen as much action and effort into processing claims, and deporting failed cases you’d cut the government some slack, a lot of slack for also trying to reduce costs.


They have the tools, and to be fair so did the previous 14 years of Tory dross to stop these boat crossings but there just isn’t the political will and hasn’t been for probably 20 years.


Complaints and protests have been ignored, no, not ignored, branded racist and xenophobic for so long that public anger over having the pee taken out of them has got to the point where it’s a powder keg waiting for a spark that has been shamelessly exploited by reform, but ignored by Westminster- if you think, and some nutters still do (see turrhalls recent offerings) that this is hard right propaganda wait for the reaction to the next “Southport” or “Manchester arena” it won’t be pretty.


Throw in the fairly recent and ongoing revelations about the rape gang cover ups - and the outrageous lack of action and downright disgusting denials from those turds in Westminster.


The country is in a very angry and dangerous place.