[Mr Mercury]

 Wooden Spoon, on 30 April 2025 - 08:01 PM, said:

Are you out canvassing mate?

No mate, apart from a few friends and neighbours who are well on the Reform bandwagon.
I’m just trying to sway a few doubters on here, I think I might have persuaded one or two!

[Wooden Spoon]

 Mr Mercury, on 30 April 2025 - 08:20 PM, said:

No mate, apart from a few friends and neighbours who are well on the Reform bandwagon.
I’m just trying to sway a few doubters on here, I think I might have persuaded one or two!

Can I ask, honestly and without judgement why you joined reform as aparty member?

[dart in the crossbar]

 Mr Mercury, on 30 April 2025 - 08:20 PM, said:

No mate, apart from a few friends and neighbours who are well on the Reform bandwagon.
I’m just trying to sway a few doubters on here, I think I might have persuaded one or two!

Should Reform (or any party) take power in the County they will be responsible for a bunch of local services for Derbyshire residents such as:

education special educational needs
transport
planning
fire and public safety
social care
libraries
waste management
trading standards
rubbish collection
recycling
Council Tax collections
housing
planning applications
and the council's budget

In some cases some of these will be the responsibility of the District councils

Whilst the party with control will have local government employees with expertise in these areas, the elected members will be responsible for making the big decisions for each of these services and more.

[Wooden Spoon]

 dart in the crossbar, on 30 April 2025 - 08:36 PM, said:

Should Reform (or any party) take power in the County they will be responsible for a bunch of local services for Derbyshire residents such as:

education special educational needs
transport
planning
fire and public safety
social care
libraries
waste management
trading standards
rubbish collection
recycling
Council Tax collections
housing
planning applications
and the council's budget

In some cases some of these will be the responsibility of the District councils

Whilst the party with control will have local government employees with expertise in these areas, the elected members will be responsible for making the big decisions for each of these services and more.

How would a change to reform be different to say a change from labour to Tory?

The local council employees would be carrying out those duties not the councils


What’s your point?

[Mr Mercury]

 Wooden Spoon, on 30 April 2025 - 08:32 PM, said:

Can I ask, honestly and without judgement why you joined reform as aparty member?

Firstly after decades of being a Labour voter I started to become disaffected under Corbyn, I felt Boris in 2019 captured the mood of many former Labour and Brexit voters perfectly, therefore I voted Tory in 2019. Fast forward to Boris’ exit, which, and I must stress this is a personal opinion, I still feel it was a witch hunt, and therefore felt I couldn’t vote Tory again, also I feel Badenoch has been a poor choice for Tory leader, in hindsight Jenrick would have been far better.
Retreat a few years and looking at Labour under Starmers leadership and the signs we’re there early doors that he’s a duplicitous man with a sinister undertone, look at two tier justice, two tier Keir etc and then just look at how the whole parliamentary party has behaved in government has just fortified my belief that I made the right decision.
Fast forward to Reform, as in Brexit Farage understands how many millions of ordinary Brits feel betrayed under the previous two parties. The seeming ingnorance to completely ignore the problems of mass uncontrolled immigration and the reduction of huge amounts of our large towns and cities and southern and eastern coastal towns into absolute doss holes, the basis of English values being reduced. The thought that we should feel shame for some of our history and heritage. Similarly I’ve found myself moving right of centre these last few years and I’m more than comfortable with that. I don’t feel the need to justify my choice anymore, and millions of voting Brits now feel the same, the pigeon holing of those that don’t conform to progressive left wing values has run out of steam, and people no longer care of labelling.
Ultimately I fear for the future of the UK as the country I grew up in, and although I’ll probably not be here after the next 25/30 years to see it’s decimation continue I’d like to think by joining and voting Reform I’m doing my bit to at least.
All of the above doesn’t decry anyone’s right and belief to vote for whom they so wish, we live in a democracy, at least for the time being so I respect anyone’s right to vote as they choose and I certainly wouldn’t decry them for their choice.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 30 April 2025 - 08:52 PM

[Wooden Spoon]

That’s a fair reply Mr M

[Mr Mercury]

 Wooden Spoon, on 30 April 2025 - 08:48 PM, said:

That’s a fair reply Mr M

The amount of ordinary folk I talk to on a daily basis echo a similar thought, whether Reform are a one trick pony or a rising force in UK politics remains to be seen but what cannot be brushed under the carpet anymore is how sick to the back teeth millions of people are for being totally ignored and labelled for having genuine fears about the way the UK is going, both culturally and politically.

[Wooden Spoon]

When you attend a meeting union reps from TSSA RMT and prospect and the “out side of the room” talks are similar know your in trouble

The feeling of being ignored, of Muslim rape gangs being swept under the carport and worse- anyone one expressing outrage being branded racist- just adds the publics anger and contempt


Oppose nationalism in any form because that’s bad. Labour have gone down the rabbit hole and are handing power to the free market extremism


The Azuls of this world will have a lot answer for, these hard line lunatics have utterly betrayed the working class of this country while kidding themselves they have been champions of the working classes


Their absence now speaks volumes - their lunacy has potentially handed control to the real hard liners and extremism and they are no where to be held accountable

This post has been edited by Wooden Spoon: 30 April 2025 - 09:18 PM

[dart in the crossbar]

 Wooden Spoon, on 30 April 2025 - 08:46 PM, said:

How would a change to reform be different to say a change from labour to Tory?

The local council employees would be carrying out those duties not the councils


What’s your point?

The ruling political group is responsible for making the big decisions across most of the list. The employees would be expected to offer advice, and then to carry out the decisions made by the politicians. The politicians make the big decisions not the employees. If Reform take charge, they will make the big decisions about Special Educational Needs, Transport, Libraries, Old People's Homes and so on. Exactly the same as any other party. Pretty much that, really.

[dart in the crossbar]

 Mr Mercury, on 30 April 2025 - 08:59 PM, said:

The amount of ordinary folk I talk to on a daily basis echo a similar thought, whether Reform are a one trick pony or a rising force in UK politics remains to be seen but what cannot be brushed under the carpet anymore is how sick to the back teeth millions of people are for being totally ignored and labelled for having genuine fears about the way the UK is going, both culturally and politically.

What are Derbyshire Reform's policies regarding how they will address the way that the UK is going, both culturally and politically should they take control of Derbyshire County Council?... and be responsible for such things as libraries, Special Needs Education in Schools in Derbyshire, and so on. Sorry to ask, but that's what will be on their plate if they take control.

Genuine questions. As you state, I also don't know whether they are a one trick pony or not, but they certainly won't be able to be one if they win overall control of the Council.

[Wooden Spoon]

 dart in the crossbar, on 30 April 2025 - 09:13 PM, said:

The ruling political group is responsible for making the big decisions across most of the list. The employees would be expected to offer advice, and then to carry out the decisions made by the politicians. The politicians make the big decisions not the employees. If Reform take charge, they will make the big decisions about Special Educational Needs, Transport, Libraries, Old People's Homes and so on. Exactly the same as any other party. Pretty much that, really.

So your list was pointless. It wouldn’t matter which political group was at the helm- they are all incompetent

This post has been edited by Wooden Spoon: 30 April 2025 - 09:26 PM

[Mr Mercury]

 dart in the crossbar, on 30 April 2025 - 09:13 PM, said:

The ruling political group is responsible for making the big decisions across most of the list. The employees would be expected to offer advice, and then to carry out the decisions made by the politicians. The politicians make the big decisions not the employees. If Reform take charge, they will make the big decisions about Special Educational Needs, Transport, Libraries, Old People's Homes and so on. Exactly the same as any other party. Pretty much that, really.

The one thing that has become evident under the Labuor government and will continue to be under Reforms possible success in the locals, is how many people are going to hold positions of different degrees of power with absolutely no previous experience of holding those positions, but that’s a price to pay for people splitting the vote for four if not five parties now.

[Wooden Spoon]

A particular group who are personal heroes of mine are the Kronstadt sailors.

[Mr Mercury]

 dart in the crossbar, on 30 April 2025 - 09:19 PM, said:

What are Derbyshire Reform's policies regarding how they will address the way that the UK is going, both culturally and politically should they take control of Derbyshire County Council?... and be responsible for such things as libraries, Special Needs Education in Schools in Derbyshire, and so on. Sorry to ask, but that's what will be on their plate if they take control.

Genuine questions. As you state, I also don't know whether they are a one trick pony or not, but they certainly won't be able to be one if they win overall control of the Council.

Where are anybodies policies regarding the locals, as I’ve said many times recently we’ve had not a single communication from Labour or the Tories in our village for this vote, not a thing, so I’ve no idea of theirs.
Edit, just looked at my most recent Reform leaflet..

Britain needs Reform
Freeze Immigration and stop the boats
Scrap Net Zero to cut your energy bills
Reduce waste and cut your taxes..

So a pretty mucha base national playing card..
But still more than we’ve heard from the other parties.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 30 April 2025 - 09:30 PM

[Wooden Spoon]

 dart in the crossbar, on 30 April 2025 - 09:19 PM, said:

What are Derbyshire Reform's policies regarding how they will address the way that the UK is going, both culturally and politically should they take control of Derbyshire County Council?... and be responsible for such things as libraries, Special Needs Education in Schools in Derbyshire, and so on. Sorry to ask, but that's what will be on their plate if they take control.

Genuine questions. As you state, I also don't know whether they are a one trick pony or not, but they certainly won't be able to be one if they win overall control of the Council.

Another total muppet who completely fails to read the room and is handing the floor to reform

[dart in the crossbar]

 Wooden Spoon, on 30 April 2025 - 09:35 PM, said:

Another total muppet who completely fails to read the room and is handing the floor to reform

By asking what Reform would do in Derbyshire if elected?

[ste_vo_cfc]

 Wooden Spoon, on 30 April 2025 - 09:35 PM, said:

Another total muppet who completely fails to read the room and is handing the floor to reform

Sorry why is he a muppet for asking what a party would do for us in Derbyshire when it’s a county council election? Far as I’m aware the county council has absolutely nothing to do with ‘stopping the boats’ for example.

National elections it would be relevant but not for this one …. I do agree on the wider points though that politics in general is in a bit of a mess and maybe a reform ‘surge’ will make the mainstream take notice and clean up their act!

This post has been edited by ste_vo_cfc: 01 May 2025 - 06:46 AM

[calvin plummers socks]

Today’s the day millions of overweight ugly men in bad trainers clutch their pencil and stomp down to the polling station to get rid of the brown people?

Is it today?

[s42blue]

 calvin plummers socks, on 01 May 2025 - 07:33 AM, said:

Today’s the day millions of overweight ugly men in bad trainers clutch their pencil and stomp down to the polling station to get rid of the brown people?

Is it today?

From the man calling for people to be “respectful” recently, now denigrating others en masse. Or perhaps I should just approach your comment as if it was just a bit of humour…which I’m sure it was. As I say…sin, stone, cast.

[clarevoyant.]

 s42blue, on 01 May 2025 - 08:05 AM, said:

From the man calling for people to be “respectful” recently, now denigrating others en masse. Or perhaps I should just approach your comment as if it was just a bit of humour…which I’m sure it was. As I say…sin, stone, cast.

You should be aware that too a physio!!, humorous is just a misspelling for a bone in the arm

This post has been edited by clarevoyant.: 01 May 2025 - 08:48 AM