[Mr Mercury]

Nigel Farage today..

“The energy and enthusiasm of Reform UK candidates is unlike anything I’ve seen before in politics. Something is happening out there”

They are leaving the other parties standing in getting out and about and canvassing and meeting people, I’ve seen it with my own eyes where I live. Not a sniff from Labour or the Tories anywhere.

[Goku]

Mr Mercury, on 19 April 2025 - 06:28 PM, said:

Nigel Farage today..

“The energy and enthusiasm of Reform UK candidates is unlike anything I’ve seen before in politics. Something is happening out there”

They are leaving the other parties standing in getting out and about and canvassing and meeting people, I’ve seen it with my own eyes where I live. Not a sniff from Labour or the Tories anywhere.

Nigel Farage today: https://www.theguard...t-of-trade-deal

Yay for the lowering of standards and the undercutting of British farmers!

[calvin plummers socks]

Goku, on 20 April 2025 - 04:54 PM, said:

Nigel Farage today: https://www.theguard...t-of-trade-deal

Yay for the lowering of standards and the undercutting of British farmers!

He’s spent 15 hours in Clacton since elected - top grifting right there

[Mr Mercury]

Goku, on 20 April 2025 - 04:54 PM, said:

Nigel Farage today: https://www.theguard...t-of-trade-deal

Yay for the lowering of standards and the undercutting of British farmers!

Don’t buy it, I wouldn’t.
BTW, another stunning poll prediction.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 20 April 2025 - 05:17 PM

[Goku]

Mr Mercury, on 20 April 2025 - 05:17 PM, said:

Don’t buy it, I wouldn’t.
BTW, another stunning poll prediction.

Obviously people will buy it if it’s cheaper than British chicken

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

This is another example of Reform's crass hypocrisy when we scratch the surface of their easy fix agenda.

The US have to chlorinate chicken because their sanitation standards are lower than ours'. As are their welfare ones. Cutting corners on both to cut costs.

That means they can also undercut UK producers were they allowed to flood our markets.

But the Farage who claims full support for UK farmers - though as in his Clacton constituency was nowhere to be seen when they protested against Brexit barriers crippling them only last year - is happy for that to happen.

The Labour government must stand firm against any such undercutting. As it must any dilution of internet controls limiting the Musk's of this world. As they must allowing US companies increased access to the NHS.

As they must to Trump full stop.

I'll condemn Starmer's government should they backtrack on that as I've condemned them for backtracking elsewhere.

I side with the UK against an increasingly hostile US administration. Reform fans must decide who they side with for themselves...

This post has been edited by The Earl of Chesterfield: 21 April 2025 - 07:52 AM

[Mr Mercury]

Reform predicted to win 180 seats if there was a general election, this after starting up just a cpl of years ago…..astounding really.

[Goku]

Massive congrats to Reform for winning the Polling Champions 2025 cup!

Mr Mercury do you remember when you used to constantly criticise Chris for being a party member and how he couldn’t criticise his party and now he criticises his party and you used to say how freeing it was that you weren’t tied to a party and how you could vote for who you like and now you’re a fully paid up member of the propaganda arm of Reform and literally can’t say a bad word against them? Haha crazy how things change isn’t it xx

This post has been edited by Goku: 21 April 2025 - 08:03 AM

[Mr Mercury]

Goku, on 21 April 2025 - 08:00 AM, said:

Massive congrats to Reform for winning the Polling Champions 2025 cup!

Mr Mercury do you remember when you used to constantly criticise Chris for being a party member and how he couldn’t criticise his party and now he criticises his party and you used to say how freeing it was that you weren’t tied to a party and how you could vote for who you like and now you’re a fully paid up member of the propaganda arm of Reform and literally can’t say a bad word against them? Haha crazy how things change isn’t it xx

Yes I do, and yes it is.
The big difference mate is that Labour are in power and lying to us all massively, until Reform actually pull the strings it’s all hypothetical.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 21 April 2025 - 08:06 AM

[Wooden Spoon]

Goku, on 21 April 2025 - 08:00 AM, said:

Massive congrats to Reform for winning the Polling Champions 2025 cup!

Mr Mercury do you remember when you used to constantly criticise Chris for being a party member and how he couldn’t criticise his party and now he criticises his party and you used to say how freeing it was that you weren’t tied to a party and how you could vote for who you like and now you’re a fully paid up member of the propaganda arm of Reform and literally can’t say a bad word against them? Haha crazy how things change isn’t it xx

Give it a couple of weeks and one of you will be able to say I told you so

[Goku]

Wooden Spoon, on 21 April 2025 - 08:04 AM, said:

Give it a couple of weeks and one of you will be able to say I told you so

Oh no I fully expect Reform to make significant gains, I’m more arsed about who’ll be running country in 4 years time

[Mr Mercury]

Goku, on 21 April 2025 - 08:16 AM, said:

Oh no I fully expect Reform to make significant gains, I’m more arsed about who’ll be running country in 4 years time

Things can change but it looks like it will have to be some sort of right of centre coalition. No bad thing if its down well, though tho use things rarely work. I can’t see Labour getting anywhere near as many seats after the way they’ve treated ordinary folk, there only chance would be to oust Starmer and start again before the next election but there’s nobody in parliament to really challenge.

[Wooden Spoon]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 21 April 2025 - 07:46 AM, said:

This is another example of Reform's crass hypocrisy when we scratch the surface of their easy fix agenda.

The US have to chlorinate chicken because their sanitation standards are lower than ours'. As are their welfare ones. Cutting corners on both to cut costs.

That means they can also undercut UK producers were they allowed to flood our markets.

But the Farage who claims full support for UK farmers - though as in his Clacton constituency was nowhere to be seen when they protested against Brexit barriers crippling them only last year - is happy for that to happen.

The Labour government must stand firm against any such undercutting. As it must any dilution of internet controls limiting the Musk's of this world. As they must allowing US companies increased access to the NHS.

As they must to Trump full stop.

I'll condemn Starmer's government should they backtrack on that as I've condemned them for backtracking elsewhere.

I side with the UK against an increasingly hostile US administration. Reform fans must decide who they side with for themselves...

To be fair you can apply that to meat imports from places like Romania where pigs are kept in tiny pens etc. Or Foie gras - natural enlargement of geese liver pre migration only, not the force fed barbarism. No one complains about that. Yet these practices wouldn’t meet our UK welfare standards.


I often go to Smithfield meat market to buy stuff and the imported meat from the EU is much cheaper than UK reared produce, we’ve had cheap frozen lamb from New Zealand for ages as well so it’s not a new thing, meat from abroad under cutting the UK farmers.


Put aside the practice of chlorinated chicken for a moment and what’s the difference? EU imports undercutting UK farmers is OK but American imports isn’t?


Having said that, just on food standards alone we should be telling the orange menace “No” - we won’t lower our standards - you raise yours if you want to enter the UK food market .

[Wooden Spoon]

Goku, on 21 April 2025 - 08:16 AM, said:

Oh no I fully expect Reform to make significant gains, I’m more arsed about who’ll be running country in 4 years time

Given the lack of talent, honesty and common sense in any of the parties currently infesting Westminster I doubt it makes one iota of difference which coloured turd doesn’t get flushed around the U bend.


May as well be top 20 from bobs board.

Ian can be work and pensions secretary, S+D can be the immigration minister, Warfy education secretary, Azul can be defence etc


Couldn’t do a worse job


You know in all seriousness if it came to “who would you want to win next time” question I’d have to say “none of them”


The culture of refusing to answer questions, if being dishonest, of lying by omission, of doing the wrong thing and voting for the wrong thing because it’s the new party line, of telling voters what to think instead of listens to what voters think.


It’s too deep in all of them.


I get this isn’t the 90’s when Blair’s government had wiggle room, optimism and moved in on a wave of optimism but Jesus Christ on a bike, is being honest, is doing the best for the people of this country especially those less well off too much to ask from Starmer?


How about a little honesty now and then, however painful that might be - people would respect that


Right now there’s nothing but disgust disdain disappointment and dissatisfaction - as I said before - the Westminster set are holding the door open for Reform

This post has been edited by Wooden Spoon: 21 April 2025 - 08:55 AM

[isleaiw1]

Wooden Spoon, on 21 April 2025 - 08:41 AM, said:

Given the lack of talent, honesty and common sense in any of the parties currently infesting Westminster I doubt it makes one iota of difference which coloured turd doesn’t get flushed around the U bend.


May as well be top 20 from bobs board.

Ian can be work and pensions secretary, S+D can be the immigration minister, Warfy education secretary, Azul can be defence etc


Couldn’t do a worse job


You know in all seriousness if it came to “who would you want to win next time” question I’d have to say “none of them”


The culture of refusing to answer questions, if being dishonest, of lying by omission, of doing the wrong thing and voting for the wrong thing because it’s the new party line, of telling voters what to think instead of listens to what voters think.


It’s too deep in all of them.


I get this isn’t the 90’s when Blair’s government had wiggle room, optimism and moved in on a wave of optimism but Jesus Christ on a bike, is being honest, is doing the best for the people of this country especially those less well off too much to ask from Starmer?


How about a little honesty now and then, however painful that might be - people would respect that


Right now there’s nothing but disgust disdain disappointment and dissatisfaction - as I said before - the Westminster set are holding the door open for Reform

Probably the best post in this section in years. The whole lot are a disgrace. Sure some of bobs board could do worse though... Goku as minister for old people maybe 😉

[Burgerman]

It’s a really sad state of affairs when a party led by an idiot like Farage is the only party people think they can turn too. I’ve been saying for years that the main parties in British politics offer nothing but empty promises. The Tories created a mess, The Labour Party are just carrying on where they left off, Lib Dem’s also have a Richard head at the helm who was instrumental in screwing over Post office staff.

What Reform have done is taken a gamble and focussed mainly on immigration, they have seen the frustrations of many where the current government and the previous one absolutely failed to address the issue, the current government pulling the racist card if anyone criticises them.

I am not a supporter of Reform, their party is not capable of putting together a group of honest, capable or competent MPs. What they are capable of is engaging with the public on matters that concern them. That’s where they will succeed where the other parties fail.

Like it or not, the current levels of uncontrolled immigration across the English Channel will continue at pace and will continue to cost the British taxpayer £billions. People just want their tax £ spent on improving infrastructure, and the quality of life of our vulnerable communities. We spend more on individual illegal immigrants than we do on our individual disabled population We have a Social Care organisation that is so under funded vulnerable people are sitting in there own 💩 for hours on end because of underfunding. We have young families struggling to buy food or heat their houses. None of this has changed in well over a decade and it doesn’t look like it will change in the next decade.

Reform have sussed out what people are passionate about and are saying the what the public want to hear in a language they understand.

The main political parties refuse to accept what concerns the British people, basically they don’t respect the British people.

I fully expect Reform to do well on the 1st May. Not because they are the better party simply because they listen.

Finally, people who will vote Reform are not all racists, it you believe they are you’re just brainwashed by old fashioned, draconian British Politics who want to rule just for the sake of being in power.

[Misnomer]

Wooden Spoon, on 21 April 2025 - 08:35 AM, said:

To be fair you can apply that to meat imports from places like Romania where pigs are kept in tiny pens etc. Or Foie gras - natural enlargement of geese liver pre migration only, not the force fed barbarism. No one complains about that. Yet these practices wouldn’t meet our UK welfare standards.


I often go to Smithfield meat market to buy stuff and the imported meat from the EU is much cheaper than UK reared produce, we’ve had cheap frozen lamb from New Zealand for ages as well so it’s not a new thing, meat from abroad under cutting the UK farmers.


Put aside the practice of chlorinated chicken for a moment and what’s the difference? EU imports undercutting UK farmers is OK but American imports isn’t?


Having said that, just on food standards alone we should be telling the orange menace “No” - we won’t lower our standards - you raise yours if you want to enter the UK food market .

Excellent post. The chlorinated chicken argument is an absolute joke and, yet, just more of the same standard, biased hypocrisy from the usual folk.

[Misnomer]

Burgerman, on 21 April 2025 - 12:33 PM, said:

It’s a really sad state of affairs when a party led by an idiot like Farage is the only party people think they can turn too. I’ve been saying for years that the main parties in British politics offer nothing but empty promises. The Tories created a mess, The Labour Party are just carrying on where they left off, Lib Dem’s also have a Richard head at the helm who was instrumental in screwing over Post office staff.

What Reform have done is taken a gamble and focussed mainly on immigration, they have seen the frustrations of many where the current government and the previous one absolutely failed to address the issue, the current government pulling the racist card if anyone criticises them.

I am not a supporter of Reform, their party is not capable of putting together a group of honest, capable or competent MPs. What they are capable of is engaging with the public on matters that concern them. That’s where they will succeed where the other parties fail.

Like it or not, the current levels of uncontrolled immigration across the English Channel will continue at pace and will continue to cost the British taxpayer £billions. People just want their tax £ spent on improving infrastructure, and the quality of life of our vulnerable communities. We spend more on individual illegal immigrants than we do on our individual disabled population We have a Social Care organisation that is so under funded vulnerable people are sitting in there own 💩 for hours on end because of underfunding. We have young families struggling to buy food or heat their houses. None of this has changed in well over a decade and it doesn’t look like it will change in the next decade.

Reform have sussed out what people are passionate about and are saying the what the public want to hear in a language they understand.

The main political parties refuse to accept what concerns the British people, basically they don’t respect the British people.

I fully expect Reform to do well on the 1st May. Not because they are the better party simply because they listen.

Finally, people who will vote Reform are not all racists, it you believe they are you’re just brainwashed by old fashioned, draconian British Politics who want to rule just for the sake of being in power.

Farage is a charlatan; I think a lot of people who will vote for Reform, know this. He can't even back up his own rhetoric. I don't believe the Reform vote will be for him, per se; it's going to be mainly anti-Labour. Four years to go and I expect the political landscape to look far different.

Despite knowing what Starmer was going to bring, folk voted Labour, simply because they wanted the Tories gone. It's the same scenario with Labour and Reform.

This post has been edited by Misnomer: 21 April 2025 - 01:38 PM

[Goku]

Misnomer, on 21 April 2025 - 01:18 PM, said:

Farage is a charlatan; I think a lot of people who will vote for Reform, know this. He can't even back up his own rhetoric.

Thank God, i thought you were too far gone 🙏🏻

[Wooden Spoon]

Burgerman, on 21 April 2025 - 12:33 PM, said:

Like it or not, the current levels of uncontrolled immigration across the English Channel will continue at pace and will continue to cost the British taxpayer £billions. People just want their tax £ spent on improving infrastructure, and the quality of life of our vulnerable communities. We spend more on individual illegal immigrants than we do on our individual disabled population We have a Social Care organisation that is so under funded vulnerable people are sitting in there own 💩 for hours on end because of underfunding. We have young families struggling to buy food or heat their houses. None of this has changed in well over a decade and it doesn’t look like it will change in the next decade.

Reform have sussed out what people are passionate about and are saying the what the public want to hear in a language they understand.

The main political parties refuse to accept what concerns the British people, basically they don’t respect the British people.

I fully expect Reform to do well on the 1st May. Not because they are the better party simply because they listen.

Finally, people who will vote Reform are not all racists, it you believe they are you’re just brainwashed by old fashioned, draconian British Politics who want to rule just for the sake of being in power.

Bang on that.


Political lunatics would have you believe otherwise though and it’s these lunatics that the voters have finally had enough of