[Wooden Spoon]

frearsghost, on 16 April 2025 - 08:24 PM, said:

Yes I know.

I'm referring to the verbal abuse she received in the House of Commons during a debate from a very aggressive Labour MP who name I can't recall for the life of me.

Yes that’s a fair comment.


The fact that the Labour Party land its leader can’t even be clear n what a woman is, despite making up 50% of the population perfectly illustrates why labour are in so much trouble. No idea of who they represent


No one cares if Fred wants to wear a frock and call himself Freda if that’s his thing full your boots mate, if that’s who you are who am I to question who you are and what what you wear - crack on. No one cares if that’s what’ makes you feel comfortable


But you’re not a girl.


In 500 years if archaeologists dig up your skeleton they will say this is a skeleton of man aged around xxxxx - your not a girl

So give the respect to girls only spaces.!stop expecting 50% of the population to submit to the wants of 0.1% of the population- because that’s apartheid policies


And I think that’s a problem at the core of the current Labour Party.

They want then rights of the very few outweighs the needs of the very many.

That’s been the stance of the political mainstream for so long that biological and common sense does not reflect biological realities

The lunatics have taken over the asylum. The 0.1 are now the majority

This post has been edited by Wooden Spoon: 16 April 2025 - 11:34 PM

[Wooden Spoon]

Just seen in the news,


JD Vance saying a trade deal will depend on Britain repealing free speech laws depending a trade deal.


Well for me, anyone trying to dictate the policies of the UK depending on our own laws I’d say f+++ right off.

Do one, we decide our laws and rules and rules not you do Fxxx right off

This post has been edited by Wooden Spoon: 16 April 2025 - 11:16 PM

[Wooden Spoon]

Maybe our terms should be the USA signs up the icc

This post has been edited by Wooden Spoon: 16 April 2025 - 11:20 PM

[Mr Mercury]

 Wooden Spoon, on 16 April 2025 - 11:08 PM, said:

Just seen in the news,


JD Vance saying a trade deal will depend on Britain repealing free speech laws depending a trade deal.


Well for me, anyone trying to dictate the policies of the UK depending on our own laws I’d say f+++ right off.

Do one, we decide our laws and rules and rules not you do Fxxx right off

Totally agree with the point, but isn’t it a shame when we have US politicians seeing what’s happening in the UK in terms to two tier policing, two tier justice, people jailed for years for tweets, albeit offensive and malicious ones, since removed, yet people with hard drives full of child rape and porn let off virtually scot free. And it took Musk to bring back to the fore the National scandal that is the rape gangs, the scandal that politicians for years have tried to ignore and now the UK Labour government seems to be doing everything it can to brush it deeper under the carpet.
Sadly those looking in can see what the UK is becoming under this government, seems like some here still can’t.
But I agree with your point about being dictated to for the deals but I can’t deny a wry smile at Starmer knowing at least some in high places can see his duplicity.

[Goku]

 Mr Mercury, on 17 April 2025 - 06:35 AM, said:

Totally agree with the point, but isn’t it a shame when we have US politicians seeing what’s happening in the UK in terms to two tier policing, two tier justice, people jailed for years for tweets, albeit offensive and malicious ones, since removed, yet people with hard drives full of child rape and porn let off virtually scot free. And it took Musk to bring back to the fore the National scandal that is the rape gangs, the scandal that politicians for years have tried to ignore and now the UK Labour government seems to be doing everything it can to brush it deeper under the carpet.
Sadly those looking in can see what the UK is becoming under this government, seems like some here still can’t.
But I agree with your point about being dictated to for the deals but I can’t deny a wry smile at Starmer knowing at least some in high places can see his duplicity.

Lovely bit of seppo fawning to start the day

[Mr Mercury]

 Goku, on 17 April 2025 - 06:44 AM, said:

Lovely bit of seppo fawning to start the day

All true though mate, fawning or not.

[calvin plummers socks]

 Goku, on 17 April 2025 - 06:44 AM, said:

Lovely bit of seppo fawning to start the day

They should sort out their gun crime and drug addiction crisis rather than meddling in proper statesman like politics over here

[Burgerman]

 calvin plummers socks, on 17 April 2025 - 08:37 AM, said:

They should sort out their gun crime and drug addiction crisis rather than meddling in proper statesman like politics over here

What about our knife crime and drug addiction? The Statesman like politics in this country isn't dealing with that too well.

[fishini]

 Burgerman, on 17 April 2025 - 10:11 AM, said:

What about our knife crime and drug addiction? The Statesman like politics in this country isn't dealing with that too well.

The difference carrying guns is legal in America for almost anyone. 18 years old for a long gun including assault rifles and 21 for hand gun. However you can't drink until 21. Strange country with strange laws.
262 knife related deaths in UK in 24
40000 + gun related deaths in USA in 24

This post has been edited by fishini: 17 April 2025 - 10:59 AM

[Mr Mercury]

 fishini, on 17 April 2025 - 10:53 AM, said:

The difference carrying guns is legal in America for almost anyone. 18 years old for a long gun including assault rifles and 21 for hand gun. However you can't drink until 21. Strange country with strange laws.
262 knife related deaths in UK in 24
40000 + gun related deaths in USA in 24

Stranger than a country who lets child abusers and rapists off with slaps on wrists . Likewise people with hard drives full of child porn, getting away almost scot free, people who beat innocent constituents to the ground and get lenient sentences whilst people who tweet and voice opinions, albeit badly wrong on occasion, get years in jail?

[frearsghost]

Guns in America? As kids we grew up with this stuff. I remember going to the Saturday morning matinee in Bolsover - it was always packed to the brim - and all the cowboy films with gun fights and the cheering when the good guys killed bad guys and the cheering when the American Cavalry charged the Indians and the cheering when an Indian was shot dead and dramatically fell off his horse. Then we'd go on the Hornscroft Banks and replay it all, being shot and rolling down. It was all American driven. I even bought a box set of the Lone Ranger on a nostalgia trip. I was shocked. People shot dead every week with no consequences. Just good and bad.

It's easy to see how many Americans - who also grew up with this stuff - in a country where guns are easily available - have become normalised and addicted to them. They were socialised from childhood to accept them. For us growing up in the UK. that avenue was thankfully closed off.

This post has been edited by frearsghost: 17 April 2025 - 11:27 AM

[calvin plummers socks]

 Mr Mercury, on 17 April 2025 - 11:14 AM, said:

Stranger than a country who lets child abusers and rapists off with slaps on wrists . Likewise people with hard drives full of child porn, getting away almost scot free, people who beat innocent constituents to the ground and get lenient sentences whilst people who tweet and voice opinions, albeit badly wrong on occasion, get years in jail?

Riots in the government building and all pardoned?
Kids shot in schools?
Large scale paedo rings involving our Royal Family?

Etc etc

[frearsghost]

[quote name='frearsghost' timestamp='1744835089' post='1887134']

Yes I know.

I'm referring to the verbal abuse she received in the House of Commons during a debate from a very aggressive Labour MP who name I can't recall for the life of me.
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By co-incidence this fella turned up on GB News, He's Lloyd Russell-Moyle a radical left ex Labour MP.

[Burgerman]

 fishini, on 17 April 2025 - 10:53 AM, said:

The difference carrying guns is legal in America for almost anyone. 18 years old for a long gun including assault rifles and 21 for hand gun. However you can't drink until 21. Strange country with strange laws.
262 knife related deaths in UK in 24
40000 + gun related deaths in USA in 24

Population of the USA 380 million

Population of the uk 69 million

The gun laws in the USA are pathetic no argument from me. But making out our statesman like country is all singing happy songs in a drug free society is pathetic.

The USA isn’t a free country as they like to think it is. Any country who’s population aren’t allowed to cross a road where they want doesn’t sound like a land of the free.

[Johnnyspireite7]

 Mr Mercury, on 17 April 2025 - 11:14 AM, said:

Stranger than a country who lets child abusers and rapists off with slaps on wrists . Likewise people with hard drives full of child porn, getting away almost scot free, people who beat innocent constituents to the ground and get lenient sentences whilst people who tweet and voice opinions, albeit badly wrong on occasion, get years in jail?

America is full of those as well it's not just here. there's more of them as well!

[Wooden Spoon]

Press conference today with Georgia Meloni trump was asked “will you be pressing Putin to agree a cease fire and how long before you do”

Or words to that

First time agent Krasnov has been pressed on this by the USA media

[fishini]

 Burgerman, on 17 April 2025 - 12:08 PM, said:

Population of the USA 380 million

Population of the uk 69 million

The gun laws in the USA are pathetic no argument from me. But making out our statesman like country is all singing happy songs in a drug free society is pathetic.

The USA isn’t a free country as they like to think it is. Any country who’s population aren’t allowed to cross a road where they want doesn’t sound like a land of the free.

Please show me where I stated that our country is perfect. You brought the comparison into the debate, not me. USA population is 3.3 times larger and the guns deaths are 152.6 times larger than the UK's knife deaths

[Search & Destroy]

 Wooden Spoon, on 16 April 2025 - 11:08 PM, said:

Just seen in the news,


JD Vance saying a trade deal will depend on Britain repealing free speech laws depending a trade deal.



Well for me, anyone trying to dictate the policies of the UK depending on our own laws I’d say f+++ right off.

Do one, we decide our laws and rules and rules not you do Fxxx right off

Yeah what an idiot, keep your jeans, your Jack Daniel’s and your chicken

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Employ clowns, get a circus...

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[Wooden Spoon]

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