[Osborne again]

ronpowellsbutler, on 13 January 2024 - 11:23 PM, said:

I was training with Alfreton when he was coach there.
He had us holding our arms out sideways and rotating them for ages without stopping. Try doing it, it’s horrible.
What good that did for footballers I don’t know but, as you say, a very nice bloke.

I haven't a clue what it would do for a footballer mate, but I can confirm that it's a killer having done it myself as a martial artist for many years, but I never did it whilst playing football.

[Valley Blues]

So 19 out of 20 Premier League clubs vote to keep it.

Other than Wolves, let?s hope there?s no crying next season when it continues to fail.

[Goku]

Valley Blues, on 06 June 2024 - 01:30 PM, said:

So 19 out of 20 Premier League clubs vote to keep it.

Other than Wolves, let?s hope there?s no crying next season when it continues to fail.

I think you?re allowed to want something to remain as part of the game, want that thing to be improved and also criticise that thing if it isn?t used to the required standard?

[Valley Blues]

Goku, on 06 June 2024 - 01:38 PM, said:

I think you?re allowed to want something to remain as part of the game, want that thing to be improved and also criticise that thing if it isn?t used to the required standard?

Maybe so, but what you?re effectively voting to keep, then, is something that you want changing and operating by someone that knows what they?re doing? So not what you?re voting to keep.

I cannot recall many, if any off the top of my head, where the general consensus has been that VAR has stepped in for the good of the game or a managers post-match singing the praises of VAR.

Examples of it failing miserably and being criticised and blamed for incorrectly altering the outcome of a game are much easier to recall.

Forest put in official complaints about the system and its operator but vote for it to stay.

Reap what you sow.

[JonB]

Thing is it does seem to work better in other countries or at least without the fall out we have here. There is a place for VAR with the correct use. They're bringing in the semi automated offside which will help and hopefully they can clean up how they use it to be more efficient. I can understand Wolves being annoyed with VAR as they have been on the end of it badly this season.

[sophocles]

Var is a poison which will eventually kill the game by eliminating the excitement, intensity and immediacy that is what football is all about. Getting a small increase in the percentage of 'correct' decisions is an inadequate return for completely removing all the pace and drama that makes it the best game in the world. The feeble excuse that it works well in other countries is IMO simply a result of the fact that our game is quicker, more exciting and intense than you will generally find anywhere else in the world, so VAR is less destructive because games in other countries are already more stop-start than here. It might take quite a while, but I'm predicting that persevering with VAR will eventually destroy the game as a spectacle. The positive aspect is that it might encourage more interest in and support for leagues below Premiership level which hopefully will remain uninfected by it.

[Osborne again]

sophocles, on 06 June 2024 - 06:29 PM, said:

Var is a poison which will eventually kill the game by eliminating the excitement, intensity and immediacy that is what football is all about. Getting a small increase in the percentage of 'correct' decisions is an inadequate return for completely removing all the pace and drama that makes it the best game in the world. The feeble excuse that it works well in other countries is IMO simply a result of the fact that our game is quicker, more exciting and intense than you will generally find anywhere else in the world, so VAR is less destructive because games in other countries are already more stop-start than here. It might take quite a while, but I'm predicting that persevering with VAR will eventually destroy the game as a spectacle. The positive aspect is that it might encourage more interest in and support for leagues below Premiership level which hopefully will remain uninfected by it.

I totally agree with all that mate.

[HaslandBlue58]

sophocles, on 06 June 2024 - 06:29 PM, said:

Var is a poison which will eventually kill the game by eliminating the excitement, intensity and immediacy that is what football is all about. Getting a small increase in the percentage of 'correct' decisions is an inadequate return for completely removing all the pace and drama that makes it the best game in the world. The feeble excuse that it works well in other countries is IMO simply a result of the fact that our game is quicker, more exciting and intense than you will generally find anywhere else in the world, so VAR is less destructive because games in other countries are already more stop-start than here. It might take quite a while, but I'm predicting that persevering with VAR will eventually destroy the game as a spectacle. The positive aspect is that it might encourage more interest in and support for leagues below Premiership level which hopefully will remain uninfected by it.

Well put,that will do for me.👍

[Wooden Spoon]

VAR giving and then cancelling a penalty in one half? Don’t think I’ve seen that before

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Wooden Spoon, on 16 April 2025 - 07:48 PM, said:

VAR giving and then cancelling a penalty in one half? Don’t think I’ve seen that before

A twist on the '74 world cup final...

[Wooden Spoon]

Watching the snooker and they had a video replay and an assistant referee


I didn’t know they did that.