[Toddhopper.]

Town_Fan, on 05 April 2025 - 09:46 PM, said:

Wasnt referencing anything specific with that reply, just an observation that some will never, even when legitimately able, criticise the club or even worse will bend reality to fit a pro club agenda. It's either because they are already close to the club or even more pathetically want to get brownie points with those sniffing around the trough.

And some will criticise & moan & gripe for no good reason about the club they are supposed to support & gain enjoyment from supporting. Losing is a part of the game & whilst its fine & normal to be annoyed & disappointed by a bad performance it is utterly moronic to lose your sh!T over it.

[Tha Knows...]

TJ Blue, on 05 April 2025 - 07:53 PM, said:

The injuries have killed us this season, we’ve not been able to keep a settled back 4 for most of the season, when you take this into account, we’ve done ok. The injuries still don’t excuse that second half performance though, we got out fought.

It wasn't so much a defeat in battle as a total surrender!

[Fact Checker]

Town_Fan, on 05 April 2025 - 09:13 PM, said:

Where did I say we should sack him? please quote my post, I'll wait!

Yet again your name does not really suit you at all. I've genuinely never known anyone so full of rubbish. Remove your head from the clubs arse and you might see what's going on. Are you one of the trough barnacles?

Edit: To be fair I can see when I said "who brought them in should lose their job" I can see how you would think Paul Cook. I actually meant the whole scouting team through to the board who sanctions the signings. And also I dont think they are National League players it was a reply to the person who said we only have "national league" players. I was point out the fact that for the squad to only consist of national league quality players there would have to be a very poor recruitment from top to bottom.

PC & the Kirk’s are the one’s who sanction all signings, and the Kirk’s aren’t exactly going to be sacked are they... it’s obvious who you meant so don’t start backtracking when called out, it’s pathetic.

Now if you’re actually wanting a debate, let’s go. Please tell me, what exactly is so wrong with the club that we have the right to so heavily criticise right now?

I see the following:

Off the pitch:
- Strong and transparent board communication and relationship with fans.
- The Trust working hard in our community, bringing hundreds of under-privileged kids through the gates weekly
- A brand new and very impressive training ground, fully paid for by the Kirk’s
- A far cleaner & better SMH Group (the last lot left it to rot)
- Majority of player contracts running out this year, ensuring we’re not tied up and free to build again in summer if needed.

On the pitch:
- Champions of the NL with an almost record points total, only 10 months ago.
- Sitting in 10th in the league above, only 7pts off play offs with a game in hand (in line with our playing budget)
- 5 wins in the last 7 games
- On the whole, the best football we’ve witnessed since Cook’s last spell here
- An injury haul that would have relegated most clubs, yet we’ve kept our heads above water.

Football isn’t about winning every game and some of us choose to see the bigger picture when we have a bad day at the office. It’s just like any job, the players and management deserve criticism for this one performance but it stops there and we move on - to even suggest sackings and club criticism is just being an absolute fanny.

Now your turn, I’ll wait…

[lindo-spireite]

Cracking day, crap game

[tafka mr. smith]

lindo-spireite, on 06 April 2025 - 07:51 AM, said:

Cracking day, crap game

good to see you & goku. hope sully didnt lead you astray back on the 'pool.

[lindo-spireite]

tafka mr. smith, on 06 April 2025 - 08:02 AM, said:

good to see you & goku. hope sully didnt lead you astray back on the 'pool.

Likewise mate.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Town_Fan, on 05 April 2025 - 09:46 PM, said:

Wasnt referencing anything specific with that reply, just an observation that some will never, even when legitimately able, criticise the club or even worse will bend reality to fit a pro club agenda. It's either because they are already close to the club or even more pathetically want to get brownie points with those sniffing around the trough.

You make a fair point to a degree.

There are characters close to Carson and/or part of the then regime still enjoying elevated status at the Club.

Though in Croot's defence he did attempt to - in some cases successfully - mitigate some of the worst excesses.

And does he deserve credit for his part in the Trust takeover? Bringing the Kirk's on board? Meanwhile what's the going rate for a football CEO?

Genuinely, I don't know.

What I do know, however, is we can count the number of outfits breaking even on the fingers of no hands. So it's not as if anything out the ordinary's happening on Sheff Road.

Look - we had Norton Lea, an owner who ran Saltergate on a parsimonious whim.

Who handed Tairn to the Fat Fraudster.

Resulting in the well meaning amateurism of the CFSS.

In turn bowing out to the anachronistic Barry Hubbard, again well meaning yet overseeing a nineteen fifties style operation in the multi billion pound twenty first century environment.

Then Dave Allen. We all know how that ended, don't we.

All meaning many of us experiencing all these dices with footballing death realise when we've got summat good goin' on.

Despite kicks in the knackers like yest'di's...

This post has been edited by The Earl of Chesterfield: 06 April 2025 - 09:47 AM

[Westbars Spireite]

Croot, unless someone knows better, was also responsible for getting PC back. And no I don't know him, have never spoken to him and have no particular interest in doing so.

This post has been edited by Westbars Spireite: 06 April 2025 - 10:38 AM

[Hoare (400)]

Paul Cook said a few weeks ago it was hard to motivate players who know they wont be here next season, yesterday kind of proved that some what.



Hoare (400)

[Johnnyspireite7]

Fact Checker, on 06 April 2025 - 05:43 AM, said:

PC & the Kirk's are the one's who sanction all signings, and the Kirk's aren't exactly going to be sacked are they... it's obvious who you meant so don't start backtracking when called out, it's pathetic.

Now if you're actually wanting a debate, let's go. Please tell me, what exactly is so wrong with the club that we have the right to so heavily criticise right now?

I see the following:

Off the pitch:
- Strong and transparent board communication and relationship with fans.
- The Trust working hard in our community, bringing hundreds of under-privileged kids through the gates weekly
- A brand new and very impressive training ground, fully paid for by the Kirk's
- A far cleaner & better SMH Group (the last lot left it to rot)
- Majority of player contracts running out this year, ensuring we're not tied up and free to build again in summer if needed.

On the pitch:
- Champions of the NL with an almost record points total, only 10 months ago.
- Sitting in 10th in the league above, only 7pts off play offs with a game in hand (in line with our playing budget)
- 5 wins in the last 7 games
- On the whole, the best football we've witnessed since Cook's last spell here
- An injury haul that would have relegated most clubs, yet we've kept our heads above water.

Football isn't about winning every game and some of us choose to see the bigger picture when we have a bad day at the office. It's just like any job, the players and management deserve criticism for this one performance but it stops there and we move on - to even suggest sackings and club criticism is just being an absolute fanny.

Now your turn, I'll wait…

I wouldn't hold your breath FC, he's another one who only posts when we have a negative result.

[Phil V 72]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 06 April 2025 - 09:43 AM, said:

You make a fair point to a degree.

There are characters close to Carson and/or part of the then regime still enjoying elevated status at the Club.

Though in Croot's defence he did attempt to - in some cases successfully - mitigate some of the worst excesses.

And does he deserve credit for his part in the Trust takeover? Bringing the Kirk's on board? Meanwhile what's the going rate for a football CEO?

Genuinely, I don't know.

What I do know, however, is we can count the number of outfits breaking even on the fingers of no hands. So it's not as if anything out the ordinary's happening on Sheff Road.

Look - we had Norton Lea, an owner who ran Saltergate on a parsimonious whim.

Who handed Tairn to the Fat Fraudster.

Resulting in the well meaning amateurism of the CFSS.

In turn bowing out to the anachronistic Barry Hubbard, again well meaning yet overseeing a nineteen fifties style operation in the multi billion pound twenty first century environment.

Then Dave Allen. We all know how that ended, don't we.

All meaning many of us experiencing all these dices with footballing death realise when we've got summat good goin' on.

Despite kicks in the knackers like yest'di's...

That’s “League 2 CEO of the Year John Croot” to you 😉

[Goku]

Phil V 72, on 14 April 2025 - 01:30 PM, said:

That’s “League 2 CEO of the Year John Croot” to you 😉

Town_Fan in shambles!

[clarevoyant.]

Goku, on 14 April 2025 - 01:33 PM, said:

Town_Fan in shambles!

More like another sufferer of the contagious "Childish Posting Syndrome".

[warfey is a spireite]

He's put alot of time and money into this club.