[spireitetoo]

I'll be surprised if both aren't here next season..

[Spireite93]

It all depends on what we've identified to bring in.

Grimes probably stays for balance being left footed. KM can do the left hand of CB aswell, then if Dunkley recovers, and do we keep Palmer after his recent good spell but let Williams go?

That doesn't really seem like progress

Fleck again for a similar reason, balance being left footed and his obvious ability, but there are slightly bigger doubts over his fitness, Naylor will still be here and we're a little lighter in CM presuming Oldaker is going and we don't get Metcalfe back

I'm not sure though, of the 6 players I've mentioned that could/might still be here, they are all 30+

This post has been edited by Spireite93: 13 April 2025 - 12:37 PM

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Blue5, on 13 April 2025 - 11:38 AM, said:

After this season, it's a gamble I wouldn't be prepared to take.

For those willing to take the gamble, some considerations;

Imo, the major consideration is how many of the current CH's can be effective backups next season. Our first choices will surely be Dunkley and AN Other won't they?

If it's L1 by any miracle then Maccers is the only one good enough.

[prolurker]

Need to be bringing talent though, unless McFaz and Fleck can play 30+ games (which I think they may) there’s no point having too many older players filling out the squad

[JonB]

Mcfadzean has potentially increased his chances by showing he can play on the left of the central defence with relative ease.

[DIFH]

DMU Blue, on 13 April 2025 - 09:51 AM, said:

Surely you just offer a low base salary with a heavy appearance fee or a bonus linked to 10, 20, 25, 30 games etc

I’d expect both would be keen to have a final season pushing promotion having already earned good money from the game.

Offer a year. So long as it isn’t silly money there are far better savings to be had from from other out of contract players not resigning

And of course bonuses.

[60s 70s Spireite]

I’d say it depends on the age profile of the rest of the squad- we don’t want as many over 30s as this season again. The average say 33 year old will always suffer more injuries than the average 28 year old. Of course some excellent exceptions, but not all in one squad.

PS
The OP has used the moniker Fadz, which has historically followed McFadzean around. Blackburn entitled their goodbye to the player Farewell Fadz, Webb called him by the same.
So much better, repectful and quicker to type, than McFadz, McFaz, Maccas, Maccers or other mangled alternative.

[Exharboroughspireite]

No sorry, not for me. We need to be bringing the age of the squad down. There are plenty that can do what McFadzean can do and cheaper.

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[rodney]

Exharboroughspireite, on 13 April 2025 - 08:34 PM, said:

No sorry, not for me. We need to be bringing the age of the squad down. There are plenty that can do what McFadzean can do and cheaper.

How do you know what he would be offered?! Of our 4 other CBs none can do what McFadzean can do. If he’s fit enough he should be offered a contract - whether he takes a 12 month one who knows.

[Goku]

Exharboroughspireite, on 13 April 2025 - 08:34 PM, said:

No sorry, not for me. We need to be bringing the age of the squad down. There are plenty that can do what McFadzean can do and cheaper.

I dunno about that, he seems a level above to me.

[Westbars Spireite]

rodney, on 13 April 2025 - 08:54 PM, said:

How do you know what he would be offered?! Of our 4 other CBs none can do what McFadzean can do. If he’s fit enough he should be offered a contract - whether he takes a 12 month one who knows.

He isn't going to get anything longer at 38.

[Exharboroughspireite]

Goku, on 13 April 2025 - 08:55 PM, said:

I dunno about that, he seems a level above to me.

Don’t get me wrong,I can see his qualities but he’s only played four times, all at home, is 39 next year and we have suffered a huge amount of injuries this year. I want a younger, more mobile squad. He doesn’t fit the profile.

PS of the four he has played, two times the opposition had a man sent off. A third game he was subbed with 20 mins left. Saturday saw an awful opponent.

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[JonB]

Think it’s been pretty clear the qualities of Mcfadzean and fleck no matter who they’ve played. I think the only blocker on them both staying is fitness and I think that’s coming round to not being an issue now.

While I’m all for a younger squad you only have to see the impact on how Metcalfe has played with fleck next to him to see what that extra bit of quality and experience brings. We shouldn’t turn down obvious quality just because they are older.

[Zigsuk]

This is the whole dilemma. As I have said elsewhere we simply aren’t going to get players of the quality of those discussed while they are at their peak. Even back to Arthur Cox and Geoff Salmons was past his best and injury prone in that side. Was still a great player who made a huge contribution though. So it will always be be a risk which may or may not pay off.
The obvious alternative is to bring through our own younger players, however, Kevin Davies apart, how often have we done that in our lifetimes?
Ideally we need to try to get somewhere in between ad Cox did with Wilson, Birch and Bonnyman and Cook himself did before with such Morsy, Clucas and Robert’s who were still young enough but good enough Although I would argue Robert’s, excellent as he could be at times, was also past his best when he signed. As we know finding such players is far from easy.

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Zigsuk, on 14 April 2025 - 05:36 AM, said:

This is the whole dilemma. As I have said elsewhere we simply aren’t going to get players of the quality of those discussed while they are at their peak. Even back to Arthur Cox and Geoff Salmons was past his best and injury prone in that side. Was still a great player who made a huge contribution though. So it will always be be a risk which may or may not pay off.
the obvious alternative is to bring through our own younger players and, Kevin Davies apart, how often have we done that in our lifetimes?
Ideally we need to try to get somewhere in between ad Cox did with Wilson, Birch and Bonnyman and Cook himself did before with such Morsy, Clucas and Robert’s who were still young enough but good enough Although I would argue Robert’s, excellent as he could be at times, was also past his best when he signed. As we know finding such players is far from easy.

I was impressed by the Mayor of Fleetwood and his ability to go past opponents. Didn't realise he was 34!

[Search & Destroy]

Happy, form a great spine

Fadz, Fleck, Madden and Grigg

Just need plenty of energy around them and get the full backs nailed

If you had Tanton and Sparkes to combine with the wingers you’ve effectively got 5 forwards and your CDMs don’t need to get as high

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[Exharboroughspireite]

JonB, on 13 April 2025 - 10:30 PM, said:

Think it’s been pretty clear the qualities of Mcfadzean and fleck no matter who they’ve played. I think the only blocker on them both staying is fitness and I think that’s coming round to not being an issue now.

While I’m all for a younger squad you only have to see the impact on how Metcalfe has played with fleck next to him to see what that extra bit of quality and experience brings. We shouldn’t turn down obvious quality just because they are older.

I think that for teams in the lower leagues there is an abundance of players available each close season and we shouldn’t be too hasty offering deals to players who have played less than 6 times for us and are pushing 40.

[Search & Destroy]

Exharboroughspireite, on 14 April 2025 - 07:12 AM, said:

I think that for teams in the lower leagues there is an abundance of players available each close season and we shouldn’t be too hasty offering deals to players who have played less than 6 times for us and are pushing 40.

Is Fleck approaching 40?

And Fadz is quite clearly our best CH, it’s not even close

An abundance of players yes but quality over quantity please

This post has been edited by Search & Destroy: 14 April 2025 - 07:17 AM

[Westbars Spireite]

Watching his post match interview, I'm even more certainly McFadzean will be here next season.

[hilly81]

Exharboroughspireite, on 13 April 2025 - 08:34 PM, said:

No sorry, not for me. We need to be bringing the age of the squad down. There are plenty that can do what McFadzean can do and cheaper.

Name 5.