[Valley Blues]

isleaiw1, on 13 April 2025 - 06:02 PM, said:

Who says they are given phones and clothes?

So they live in the clothes they turn up in for months on end?

Or do their cases get boated over later?

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[isleaiw1]

Mr Mercury, on 13 April 2025 - 05:37 PM, said:

Well if we want cold hard facts that’s 8000 so far this year, ALL getting fed, warmth and shelter. That’s a 46% increase on the same period last year. Apparently costing an eye watering £54k per year pp if they’re housed in a hotel. Absolutely absurd.

That's £1000 a week. I can categorically say from the information i have that it's nearer £700 a week per person for food and accommodation and welfare etc.

Valley Blues, on 13 April 2025 - 06:03 PM, said:

So they live in the clothes they turn up in for months on end?

Or do their cases get boated over later?

You are assuming they don't have access to bank accounts and savings...

[Valley Blues]

isleaiw1, on 13 April 2025 - 06:05 PM, said:

That's £1000 a week. I can categorically say from the information i have that it's nearer £700 a week per person for food and accommodation and welfare etc.




You are assuming they don't have access to bank accounts and savings...

But no ID documents 👍🏻

[Wooden Spoon]

isleaiw1, on 13 April 2025 - 06:05 PM, said:

That's £1000 a week. I can categorically say from the information i have that it's nearer £700 a week per person for food and accommodation and welfare etc.




You are assuming they don't have access to bank accounts and savings...

£700 a week? Good wage that.


Joe Bloggs would like that

[Spire-ite]

isleaiw1, on 13 April 2025 - 06:05 PM, said:

That's £1000 a week. I can categorically say from the information i have that it's nearer £700 a week per person for food and accommodation and welfare etc.

So any of us could stay in one of your hotels in London, get fed and watered, clothed, phone etc and it would cost is £700 a week?


You are assuming they don't have access to bank accounts and savings...

[Misnomer]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 12 April 2025 - 08:31 PM, said:

So a race based strike?

White versus non white?

Inferring non white professionals are incapable of maintaining the services referenced?

Or are you making the point there aren't enough personnel from ethnic backgrounds, which would kinda support promoting their recruitment.

Please, clarify...

If you could be bothered to read my post properly, I didn't say strike, I said leave their respective jobs.

calvin plummers socks, on 12 April 2025 - 06:13 PM, said:

No comment so far on the Reform supporting mate of yours post?
Nah?

I'll give you a comment. You are the grass that hides the snakes. I think you can understand that.

[calvin plummers socks]

Misnomer, on 13 April 2025 - 09:01 PM, said:

If you could be bothered to read my post properly, I didn't say strike, I said leave their respective jobs.



I'll give you a comment. You are the grass that hides the snakes. I think you can understand that.

You do talk some old sh77e

[Misnomer]

calvin plummers socks, on 13 April 2025 - 09:04 PM, said:

You do talk some old sh77e

You know exactly what I'm talking about, don't you; hence, the response.

[Wooden Spoon]

Misnomer, on 13 April 2025 - 09:07 PM, said:

You know exactly what I'm talking about, don't you; hence, the response.

You can’t blame all Muslims for the actions of the wrong uns, be that those who adhere to the “what your right hand holds” Koran passage gang rapists or the jihadi bombers.

I know many Muslims who are appalled by both, I guess you do as well.

The problem is the “for the good of diversity” cover up, which means the wrong uns havnt been bright to task but allowed to get away with it


Before anyone starts blaming Muslims, we need to look at those in the establishment and society that have tried to silence debate on these Muslim wrong uns and allowed them to flourish and get away with it.


Had we not been sucked into this stupid game, the wrong uns in the Muslim communities would have been behind bars or deported - instead the establishment has done the opposite and allowed this to happen in plain view and vilify, bully and arrest anyone who’s questioned it.


The time for soft words has passed. The time for the mentally of the so called “progressives” has passed. Because the soft words of the progressives has been the cause of this.


Not the Muslims.

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[Misnomer]

Wooden Spoon, on 13 April 2025 - 09:15 PM, said:

You can’t blame all Muslims for the actions of the wrong uns, be that those who adhere to the “what your right hand holds” Koran passage gang rapists or the jihadi bombers.

I know many Muslims who are appalled by both, I guess you do as well.

The problem is the “for the good of diversity” cover up, which means the wrong uns havnt been bright to task but allowed to get away with it

Rob, it's this simple. If you're a British Muslim and you are on the streets, frothing at the mouth over something that's happening thousands of miles away; your rhetoric is based on children being killed and/or maimed, then why aren't you on the streets calling out your own brethren for the most heinous of crimes being committed in this country? If you have the will and energy for that, then why not for the children in their own country, suffering at the hands of their 'brothers' and 'sisters'?

What we have instead is, Muslim MPs saying the victims need to shut their mouths for the good of diversity, blasphemy laws being proposed so we can't talk about it, and the Home Office diversity crew, telling us the grooming gangs is a made-up fantasy by right-wing racists.

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[Mr Mercury]

Wooden Spoon, on 13 April 2025 - 09:15 PM, said:

You can’t blame all Muslims for the actions of the wrong uns, be that those who adhere to the “what your right hand holds” Koran passage gang rapists or the jihadi bombers.

I know many Muslims who are appalled by both, I guess you do as well.

The problem is the “for the good of diversity” cover up, which means the wrong uns havnt been bright to task but allowed to get away with it

And all for the want of a few thousand Labour votes. Scum doesn’t do it justice.

[calvin plummers socks]

Misnomer, on 13 April 2025 - 09:21 PM, said:

Rob, it's this simple. If you're a British Muslim and you are on the streets, frothing at the mouth over something that's happening thousands of miles away; your rhetoric is based on children being killed and/or maimed, then why aren't you on the streets calling out your own brethren for the most heinous of crimes being committed in this country? If you have the will and energy for that, then why not for the children in their own country, suffering at the hands of their 'brothers' and 'sisters'?

What we have instead is, Muslim MPs saying the victims need to shut their mouths for the good of diversity, blasphemy laws being proposed so we can't talk about it, and the Home Office diversity crew, telling us the grooming gangs is a made-up fantasy by right-wing racists.

Which “Muslim MP’s” are saying this??

None - absolutely none I’m guessing.

[Wooden Spoon]

Misnomer, on 13 April 2025 - 09:21 PM, said:

Rob, it's this simple. If you're a British Muslim and you are on the streets, frothing at the mouth over something that's happening thousands of miles away; your rhetoric is based on children being killed and/or maimed, then why aren't you on the streets calling out your own brethren for the most heinous of crimes being committed in this country? If you have the will and energy for that, then why not for the children in their own country, suffering at the hands of their 'brothers' and 'sisters'?

What we have instead is, Muslim MPs saying the victims need to shut their mouths for the good of diversity, blasphemy laws being proposed so we can't talk about it, and the Home Office diversity crew, telling us the grooming gangs is a made-up fantasy by right-wing racists.

Again I refer you to the British “ for the good of diversity” mentality


Look on here - the most obvious and worst offender is Azul - a man who actually supported a British woman getting lashes in Yemen for allowing a school teddy naming competition ended naming it Mohammed - and it was deemed blasphemy- no critic from him for the lashes, no criticism from him for this barbaric practice, but criticism from him for her not respecting cultural differences.


And he’s not on his own.


And lunatics like him have infiltrated all levels of government- a case worker if a girl who said she’d been raped by a Pakistani Muslim attending an illegal marriage between a 15 year old and her rapist. The Azuls of this world have allowed and even facilitated this.

They are the evil ones who have betrayed the working class of this country not the Muslims.


Had these people held them to account the rules of the game would have been clear and not a free for all of what you like and we will turn a blind eye to it


And to be fair - I’m frothing at the mouth at the treatment of people living in the West Bank and Gaza. I don’t blame them for protesting about what Isreal has done.



Like I say, my angst is the establishment and the PC lunatics who’ve allowed this to happen - “for the good of diversity” not the brown people


Had these nutters not been in place then the first reports of these crimes would have been investigated and stamped out - rather than dismissed and covered up.

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[Mr Mercury]

Wooden Spoon, on 13 April 2025 - 09:38 PM, said:

Again I refer you to the British “ for the good of diversity” mentality


Look on here - the most obvious and worst offender is Azul - a man who actually supported a British woman getting lashes in Yemen for allowing a school teddy naming competition ended naming it Mohammed - and it was deemed blasphemy- no critic from him for the lashes, no criticism from him for this barbaric practice, but criticism from him for her not respecting cultural differences.


And he’s not on his own.


And lunatics like him have infiltrated all levels of government- a case worker if a girl who said she’d been raped by a Pakistani Muslim attending an illegal marriage between a 15 year old and her rapist. The Azuls of this world have allowed and even facilitated this.

They are the evil ones who have betrayed the working class of this country not the Muslims.


Had these people held them to account the rules of the game would have been clear and not a free for all of what you like and we will turn a blind eye to it


And to be fair - I’m frothing at the mouth at the treatment of people living in the West Bank and Gaza. I don’t blame them for protesting about what Isreal has done.

Second paragraph, if true, just wow.

[Wooden Spoon]

Mr Mercury, on 13 April 2025 - 09:41 PM, said:

Second paragraph, if true, just wow.

Absolutely 100% true - I’ll stand in front of him face to face and call him out if need be.


Was on the old rivals message board.


I’ve mentioned this several times over the years on this forum



Now imagine extremists like him being in councils, police, schools, social services etc and you see how this has come to pass, and why it’s been covered up.


And now it’s people like this that populate the Labour Party, the old school SWP progressives are now controlling the Labour Party, local authorities social services.


The white working class are no longer represented

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[Mr Mercury]

Wooden Spoon, on 13 April 2025 - 09:50 PM, said:

Absolutely 100% true - I’ll stand in front of him face to face and call him out if need be.


Was on the old rivals message board.


I’ve mentioned this several times over the years on this forum



Now imagine extremists like him being in councils, police, schools, social services etc and you see how this has come to pass, and why it’s been covered up.

Obviously I’ve no idea if he did or didn’t, but the amount of times he’s tried to take the high moral ground on threads. Wow

[Wooden Spoon]

Even on here you’ve got people trying to take the moral high ground by saying “last time I looked at the thread it was talking about Muslim rape gangs at least it’s moved on to how white town is.”

Azuls post

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[Misnomer]

Where are the Muslim 'community leaders'? Seem to have lost their gobs on the rapist gang issue. They can attend Downing Street for a chat with Starmer, and talk about everything but the rapists in their communities and the families that have willfully hidden their despicable behaviour.

We have Bradford council already saying they'll resist an inquiry/don't need one -

Anna, from Bradford, in care, 14 years old; raped multiple times, forced to marry her rapist. The social worker attends her wedding. Social worker arranges for her to be fostered by her rapists family. Local institution clearly complicit in the abuse.

Welfare rights officer (Muslim), ringleader of the Oldham rapist gang.

Rotherham councillor implicated in the rapes.

Three SYP officers arrested for historis child sexual abuse and exploitation.

Another SYP involved in the drug and sex trade. Officer dies in a very mysterious circumstances from a hit and run.

Khan stating there are no rape gangs in London, and accusing anyone who suggests there is, of being Islamophobic.

Angela Raynor's lead advisor, was head of Oldham council at the time the abuse was going on.

Current Telford MP (Labour) who, when head of Telford council, denied rape gangs were operating in Telford. The Telford enquiry found otherwise. Lucy Allen (did incredible work for the victims) replaces him; she's then constantly harassed and abused by certain members of her community. She then loses her seat back to the rapist gang denier.

Sarah Champion - deselected from Labour's front bench for stating we have a huge problem with Pakistani men raping working-class white girls.

A KC having to ask if he's 'still needed' by the government.

Insane characters like, Tessa Munt (Lib Dem), stating in parliament, it's 'white men' doing the abuse. Closely followed by Mameira Wilson (Muslim Lib Dem) claiming she's feeling 'offended' by the constant talk about Muslim rapist gangs. Not the victims of the rapists; no, not interested in that.

Judge stating that rape gangs details are 'contrary to the public interest'.

Jess Philips - say no more; her name belongs in the dirt.

And we want these lot to mark their own homework? Pathetic. Labour are a disgrace.

[Wooden Spoon]

Misnomer, on 13 April 2025 - 10:17 PM, said:

Where are the Muslim 'community leaders'? Seem to have lost their gobs on the rapist gang issue. They can attend Downing Street for a chat with Starmer, and talk about everything but the rapists in their communities and the families that have willfully hidden their despicable behaviour.

We have Bradford council already saying they'll resist an inquiry/don't need one -

Anna, from Bradford, in care, 14 years old; raped multiple times, forced to marry her rapist. The social worker attends her wedding. Social worker arranges for her to be fostered by her rapists family. Local institution clearly complicit in the abuse.

Welfare rights officer (Muslim), ringleader of the Oldham rapist gang.

Rotherham councillor implicated in the rapes.

Three SYP officers arrested for historis child sexual abuse and exploitation.

Another SYP involved in the drug and sex trade. Officer dies in a very mysterious circumstances from a hit and run.

Khan stating there are no rape gangs in London, and accusing anyone who suggests there is, of being Islamophobic.

Angela Raynor's lead advisor, was head of Oldham council at the time the abuse was going on.

Current Telford MP (Labour) who, when head of Telford council, denied rape gangs were operating in Telford. The Telford enquiry found otherwise. Lucy Allen (did incredible work for the victims) replaces him; she's then constantly harassed and abused by certain members of her community. She then loses her seat back to the rapist gang denier.

Sarah Champion - deselected from Labour's front bench for stating we have a huge problem with Pakistani men raping working-class white girls.

A KC having to ask if he's 'still needed' by the government.

Insane characters like, Tessa Munt (Lib Dem), stating in parliament, it's 'white men' doing the abuse. Closely followed by Mameira Wilson (Muslim Lib Dem) claiming she's feeling 'offended' by the constant talk about Muslim rapist gangs. Not the victims of the rapists; no, not interested in that.

Judge stating that rape gangs details are 'contrary to the public interest'.

Jess Philips - say no more; her name belongs in the dirt.

And we want these lot to mark their own homework? Pathetic. Labour are a disgrace.

Again, not a brown person problem - a whole rotten establishment problem covering it up.

[Wooden Spoon]

Misnomer, on 13 April 2025 - 10:17 PM, said:

Where are the Muslim 'community leaders'? Seem to have lost their gobs on the rapist gang issue. They can attend Downing Street for a chat with Starmer, and talk about everything but the rapists in their communities and the families that have willfully hidden their despicable behaviour.

We have Bradford council already saying they'll resist an inquiry/don't need one -

Anna, from Bradford, in care, 14 years old; raped multiple times, forced to marry her rapist. The social worker attends her wedding. Social worker arranges for her to be fostered by her rapists family. Local institution clearly complicit in the abuse.

Welfare rights officer (Muslim), ringleader of the Oldham rapist gang.

Rotherham councillor implicated in the rapes.

Three SYP officers arrested for historis child sexual abuse and exploitation.

Another SYP involved in the drug and sex trade. Officer dies in a very mysterious circumstances from a hit and run.

Khan stating there are no rape gangs in London, and accusing anyone who suggests there is, of being Islamophobic.

Angela Raynor's lead advisor, was head of Oldham council at the time the abuse was going on.

Current Telford MP (Labour) who, when head of Telford council, denied rape gangs were operating in Telford. The Telford enquiry found otherwise. Lucy Allen (did incredible work for the victims) replaces him; she's then constantly harassed and abused by certain members of her community. She then loses her seat back to the rapist gang denier.

Sarah Champion - deselected from Labour's front bench for stating we have a huge problem with Pakistani men raping working-class white girls.

A KC having to ask if he's 'still needed' by the government.

Insane characters like, Tessa Munt (Lib Dem), stating in parliament, it's 'white men' doing the abuse. Closely followed by Mameira Wilson (Muslim Lib Dem) claiming she's feeling 'offended' by the constant talk about Muslim rapist gangs. Not the victims of the rapists; no, not interested in that.

Judge stating that rape gangs details are 'contrary to the public interest'.

Jess Philips - say no more; her name belongs in the dirt.

And we want these lot to mark their own homework? Pathetic. Labour are a disgrace.

Turkeys don’t vote for Christmas

Hence no legally binding national enquiry

The enemy isn’t brown people - it’s the extremist politicians and activists that have allowed this to to both happen and then cover it up.

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