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#5721 User is offline   calvin plummers socks 

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Posted 12 April 2025 - 06:13 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 12 April 2025 - 05:57 PM, said:

Ethnic minority students have been offered £5000 more than their white classmates to become teachers in Wales as part of an anti racist scheme.


No comment so far on the Reform supporting mate of yours post?
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#5722 User is offline   Mr Mercury 

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Posted 12 April 2025 - 06:44 PM

View PostWooden Spoon, on 11 April 2025 - 08:57 AM, said:

Yeah it really is

She’s Lways impressed on things like question time - mainly IMO that rather than the bog standard “we will work hard” we will roll our sleeves up” nonsense she has, for a politician at least, been refreshingly frank and honest


And all that is now gone IMO. Sad really because I did like her MOJO


What she should have said is what her opposite number said and held Starmer and the other talentless politicians feet to the fire - and if Starmer and the rest couldn’t hack it stood for the remaining term as an independent and then if need be to continue the fight stand in Rotherham or one of the other 49 towns as a new version of the white suite.

Just imagine - we had an inquiry over Jimmy Saville - yet here, going back maybe 40 years in at least 50 downs we have gangs of Jimmy savilles.


I read one girl was locked in a flat above a take away for 10 weeks, raped multiple times, anally and orally on mass daily for 10 weeks. It was filmed. She was urinated on, beaten, drugged, plied with vodka. They even kept a tally of who’d had a go and charged them for it. She was brought left overs from the take away in the morning. Cold scraps. No cups so bad to drink water from cupped hands, called the white whore, white meat.


Eventually let out and went to the police and mentioned they had charged for the use of her body. South Yorkshire police dismissed it as prostitution that hadn’t gone well and did nothing.

Another quote from the establishment - these girls made lifestyle choices.


Yeah like a 12 year old makes a choice for a 10 week break like that.


It’s so offensive, it’s such a scandal words barely fail to give it context.


And it’s been covered up.


Even on here you’ve got people trying to take the moral high ground by saying “last time I looked at the thread it was talking about Muslim rape gangs at least it’s moved on to how white town is.”


Imagine the mentality of someone trying to take the moral high ground by making light of gang raping children so you can shout racist at someone talking about this child rape national scandal.


That’s a mental illness it has to be because no one with a shred of decency would do that surely.


Ian I really don’t mean you. BTW. The extremists know who they are.


Not a peep about the henious, unprecedented crimes of course. Oh no, that would be racist


Indeed had a Lib Dem MP complain that the Tory front bench, when quoting court transcripts, used the F word. Not a peep about this scandal itself, oh no silent on that, but squealing about nasty words - sounds a bit like the half dozen or so virtue signal posters on here on this subject.


Look how offended they have been that word “Muslim” has been used but utterly silent when “child” “gang rape” “sexual torture” trafficking” are used. Says a lot about them. An awful lot.


Huge change is needed and it pains me to say it - it’s probably only gonna come from one source. The rot is set in too deep in the three main parties. They all have to go.

A judge now blocks transcripts from a Keighley rape gang trial saying revealing them “is not in the public interest” , after what we’ve heard from previous rape gang transcripts I’d imagine it would be horrifying in the extreme. Hence the reason to not reveal the level lof utter degradation these vile gangs meat out. The judiciary is just as complicit in the cover up as this disgusting front bench we have now is.

But the pressure for a complete independent inquiry just won’t go away, nor should it.

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Posted 12 April 2025 - 06:59 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 12 April 2025 - 05:57 PM, said:

Ethnic minority students have been offered £5000 more than their white classmates to become teachers in Wales as part of an anti racist scheme.


My personal opinion is, for every white person in the armed forces, in teaching, in the police, to walk away from their jobs and watch it all collapse. If that's how they want it, then play along with them.

No doubt, it'll just be like the Zimbabweans and South Africans, begging the white farmers to come back, as their approach to killing them and booting them off their own land, doesn't seem to have born any fruit....pardon the pun.

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#5724 User is offline   Mr Mercury 

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Posted 12 April 2025 - 07:21 PM

View PostMisnomer, on 12 April 2025 - 06:59 PM, said:

My personal opinion is, for every white person in the armed forces, in teaching, in the police, to walk away from their jobs and watch it all collapse. If that's how they want it, then play along with them.

No doubt, it'll just be like the Zimbabweans and South Africans, begging the white farmers to come back, as their approach to killing them and booting them off their own land, doesn't seem to have born any fruit....pardon the pun.

It’s so blatant it’s just allowed now.
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#5725 User is offline   Wooden Spoon 

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Posted 12 April 2025 - 08:03 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 12 April 2025 - 06:44 PM, said:

A judge now blocks transcripts from a Keighley rape gang trial saying revealing them “is not in the public interest” , after what we’ve heard from previous rape gang transcripts I’d imagine it would be horrifying in the extreme. Hence the reason to not reveal the level lof utter degradation these vile gangs meat out. The judiciary is just as complicit in the cover up as this disgusting front bench we have now is.

But the pressure for a complete independent inquiry just won’t go away, nor should it.



So the now judges join the police, government front bench, social workers, local councils in the cover up.


Just when you think this scandal couldn’t go any lower, it’s sinks to new depths in the nations shame.
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Posted 12 April 2025 - 08:12 PM

View PostWooden Spoon, on 12 April 2025 - 08:03 PM, said:

So the now judges join the police, government front bench, social workers, local councils in the cover up.


Just when you think this scandal couldn’t go any lower, it’s sinks to new depths in the nations shame.

It’s the biggest cover up our government has ever presided over, and to say it invokes children, female children is a stain that those complicit should never be allowed to get away with.
We’re is our PM in all of this, celebrating a new theme park development or claiming to have the back of British Steel.
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#5727 User is offline   Wooden Spoon 

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Posted 12 April 2025 - 08:31 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 12 April 2025 - 08:12 PM, said:

It’s the biggest cover up our government has ever presided over, and to say it invokes children, female children is a stain that those complicit should never be allowed to get away with.
We’re is our PM in all of this, celebrating a new theme park development or claiming to have the back of British Steel.


It’s deeper than Starmers government


Boris said it would be spaffing money as well.


The whole rotten lot of them are involved.

All the 3 parties, judiciary, lawyers, CPS, local government, social services, police, mayors, town and county councils.


The whole rotten lot
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#5728 User is offline   The Earl of Chesterfield 

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Posted 12 April 2025 - 08:31 PM

View PostMisnomer, on 12 April 2025 - 06:59 PM, said:

My personal opinion is, for every white person in the armed forces, in teaching, in the police, to walk away from their jobs and watch it all collapse. If that's how they want it, then play along with them.

No doubt, it'll just be like the Zimbabweans and South Africans, begging the white farmers to come back, as their approach to killing them and booting them off their own land, doesn't seem to have born any fruit....pardon the pun.


So a race based strike?

White versus non white?

Inferring non white professionals are incapable of maintaining the services referenced?

Or are you making the point there aren't enough personnel from ethnic backgrounds, which would kinda support promoting their recruitment.

Please, clarify...
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Posted 12 April 2025 - 08:35 PM

View PostThe Earl of Chesterfield, on 12 April 2025 - 08:31 PM, said:

Or are you making the point there aren't enough personnel from ethnic backgrounds, which would kinda support promoting their recruitment.



I’m a country where the population is 82% white it’s percentage not numbers.


To fill the gaps, so to speak, it would almost need everyone from ethnic minorities obviously to make up the other 80%
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Posted 12 April 2025 - 08:56 PM

View PostWooden Spoon, on 12 April 2025 - 08:35 PM, said:

I’m a country where the population is 82% white it’s percentage not numbers.


To fill the gaps, so to speak, it would almost need everyone from ethnic minorities obviously to make up the other 80%

There’s certainly none white versus white in operation in the UK, and it’s far more obvious than on this message board, but that won’t get referenced.
No mention of West Yorks police ignoring white applicants, no mention of the Welsh education authorities offering ethnic minorities £5000 more to train as teachers compared to white students. But a single line on BB gets analysed. Promoting their recruitment or prioritising their recruitment? So blatant it’s obviously ignored.

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Posted 12 April 2025 - 09:19 PM

View PostThe Earl of Chesterfield, on 12 April 2025 - 08:31 PM, said:

So a race based strike?

White versus non white?

Inferring non white professionals are incapable of maintaining the services referenced?

Or are you making the point there aren't enough personnel from ethnic backgrounds, which would kinda support promoting their recruitment.

Please, clarify...

I’ll clarify..interview and select candidates based on ability to do the job.
Don’t debar white applicants from applying for a role in West Yorks Police, that infers white professionals are incapable of doing the job, don’t offer students in Wales £5000 more to train as teachers if they’re from an ethnic minority, that infers white students are incapable of doing the job, would you agree with that?

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Posted 13 April 2025 - 06:26 AM

View PostThe Earl of Chesterfield, on 12 April 2025 - 08:31 PM, said:

So a race based strike?

White versus non white?

Inferring non white professionals are incapable of maintaining the services referenced?

Or are you making the point there aren't enough personnel from ethnic backgrounds, which would kinda support promoting their recruitment.

Please, clarify...

We have no Asian playes playing for Chesterfield FC. Should Paul Cook be forced to put a halt on recruiting white players until our squad is ethnically balanced?

Please clarify
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#5733 User is offline   Johnnyspireite7 

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Posted 13 April 2025 - 07:12 AM

View PostBurgerman, on 13 April 2025 - 06:26 AM, said:

We have no Asian playes playing for Chesterfield FC. Should Paul Cook be forced to put a halt on recruiting white players until our squad is ethnically balanced?

Please clarify

We covered out quota for this season with Dilan Markanday.
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Posted 13 April 2025 - 07:23 AM

View PostJohnnyspireite7, on 13 April 2025 - 07:12 AM, said:

We covered out quota for this season with Dilan Markanday.

So I will ask you then, do you believe business/companies should be forced to put their recruitment of white people on hold until they reach a quota on recruiting ethnic minorities?
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#5735 User is offline   Johnnyspireite7 

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Posted 13 April 2025 - 07:42 AM

View PostBurgerman, on 13 April 2025 - 07:23 AM, said:

So I will ask you then, do you believe business/companies should be forced to put their recruitment of white people on hold until they reach a quota on recruiting ethnic minorities?

No, it's ridiculous, however certain people need to understand when people post wind ups when other people are posting ridiculous nonsense!
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Posted 13 April 2025 - 08:30 AM

As I see it just now. Doesn't make me right. I might change for views a bit as I learn more.

On recruitment.

I'd reckon that the great companies recruit and retain great people. I'd bet that they do research to find out whether they miss out on some great people, including people who share any characteristics. And then take action to get those people. I'd guess that they do it quietly, cleverly and legally as they realise that any quotas or positive action can also result in the public having a lower level of confidence in perceived beneficiaries of such action, even when their employees weren't recruited in such a way. Eg ' You're only here because you...' 'actually I started 10 years before that was implemented'. 'This company employs weak staff just because they are ...'. As I see it, it can be a blunt instrument that can be counter-productive and do a fair bit of harm to individuals and companies.

On child protection.

An independent public enquiry might consider the extent to which the responsible adults / adults in power judged that the children were potential victims and the adults potential abusers. The extent to which the responsible adults made decisions based on their judgments about the children's backgrounds and behaviour and not thee abuse that they suffered. The extent to which the responsible adults took decisions based on the law irrespective of the backgrounds and characteristics of the adults. 'Rotherham' should be in scope, but maybe even Saville too. Whilst they are obviously different, the central points in both (and more) are the responsible adults' response to the law, age of consent etc and the background etc of the children v that of the adults. There may be a thread of victim-blaming and looking the other way for some adults. An enquiry would find out.

I may have missed it, but I don't see a 'Hillsborough' pressure group behind a child protection public enquiry. I'd have thought that a 'Justice for the abused children' campaign would have the potential to garner significant support from influential people.

As I say, I'm no expert but think this just now.
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Posted 13 April 2025 - 08:34 AM

View PostJohnnyspireite7, on 13 April 2025 - 07:42 AM, said:

No, it's ridiculous, however certain people need to understand when people post wind ups when other people are posting ridiculous nonsense!

The story is reported in the Telegraph, I read it myself. Now either it’s true or it’s not, I have to assume it’s true as no stories are reported saying it’s false.

What we have on here is people showing their dismay at the decision of the police to do that being branded racists or insinuated being racist.

Every job in this country should be open to anyone who is qualified irrespective of race or colour and that includes white people.
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Posted 13 April 2025 - 09:05 AM

Many companies have been doing positive discrimination for years - around ethnic minorities and females specifically. Given the role the police do i can see why a more balanced force would be of value particularly in areas of high ethnic minority population.

For me it's always been best person for the job and it really irritates when HR tell me I have to include certain characteristics in my shortlist.

Hoping they add old people to those positive discrimination characteristics but so far that seems to be a step too far and age discrimination is rife
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Posted 13 April 2025 - 09:22 AM

Having TV on in the background and observing another lengthy spell of adverts makes you wonder if white folk are discriminated against when it comes to getting a gig in said adverts.
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Posted 13 April 2025 - 10:30 AM

View Postisleaiw1, on 13 April 2025 - 09:05 AM, said:

Many companies have been doing positive discrimination for years - around ethnic minorities and females specifically. Given the role the police do i can see why a more balanced force would be of value particularly in areas of high ethnic minority population.

For me it's always been best person for the job and it really irritates when HR tell me I have to include certain characteristics in my shortlist.

Hoping they add old people to those positive discrimination characteristics but so far that seems to be a step too far and age discrimination is rife

Positive discrimination is illegal.

It’s quite clearly wrong, hence it being made illegal.

It’s now called positive action.

Which is positive discrimination just dropping the word that makes it illegal.

Still wrong.

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