[danblue]

Personally, I would have chucked Tuchel in now seeing as he's been officially unveiled. What harm could it do now we know Carsley isn't getting the job. Tuchel should be putting his own stamp on it straight away and using these games for experiment himself.
The Nations League is basically trumped up friendlies anyway.

[Johnnyspireite7]

danblue, on 17 October 2024 - 09:08 AM, said:

Personally, I would have chucked Tuchel in now seeing as he's been officially unveiled. What harm could it do now we know Carsley isn't getting the job. Tuchel should be putting his own stamp on it straight away and using these games for experiment himself.
The Nations League is basically trumped up friendlies anyway.

There may be contractual issues with Bayern (pay-offs) which is why his England contract doesn't start until 1st January,

[CFC91]

Johnnyspireite7, on 17 October 2024 - 09:30 AM, said:

There may be contractual issues with Bayern (pay-offs) which is why his England contract doesn't start until 1st January,

I think it?s the FAs unwillingness to go back on their word to Carsley about having all 6 fixtures /complete control over the Nations League. The red herring being we might not win the group now so that will need to be completed in the March play offs

This post has been edited by CFC91: 18 October 2024 - 06:27 AM

[hilly81]

Tuchel's first England squad has just made me sick in my mouth.

[Goku]

Yep, what a disappointing start. Henderson, Walker, Burn... no reason for any of them to be included.

[hilly81]

 Goku, on 14 March 2025 - 09:46 AM, said:

Yep, what a disappointing start. Henderson, Walker, Burn... no reason for any of them to be included.

Quansah, Lewis-Skelly, James, Rashford, Solanke, No Gibbs-White, No Anderson, No Gallagher. Honking.

(I'm not a fan of Gallagher by the way but he has been excellent for Athletico)

This post has been edited by hilly81: 14 March 2025 - 09:58 AM

[sophocles]

Hasn't taken long for the England 'supporter' entitlement to kick in has it? Are some already regretting hounding out Southgate, the best national manager by far that England ever had?

This post has been edited by sophocles: 14 March 2025 - 10:02 AM

[Goku]

 hilly81, on 14 March 2025 - 09:57 AM, said:

Quansah, Lewis-Skelly, James, Rashford, Solanke, No Gibbs-White, No Anderson, No Gallagher. Honking.

(I'm not a fan of Gallagher by the way but he has been excellent for Athletico)

Wharton is one I'd have included instead of Henderson but if not him then yeah, any of the other suggestions. I'm sure Tuchel has his reasons but... yeah, not great. I'm ok with Lewis-Skelly though.

[clarevoyant.]

 sophocles, on 14 March 2025 - 10:02 AM, said:

Hasn't taken long for the England 'supporter' entitlement to kick in has it? Are some already regretting hounding out Southgate, the best national manager by far that England ever had?

I thought you would have been old enough to remember Sir Alf.

[Goku]

 sophocles, on 14 March 2025 - 10:02 AM, said:

Hasn't taken long for the England 'supporter' entitlement to kick in has it? Are some already regretting hounding out Southgate, the best national manager by far that England ever had?

Hasn't taken you long to jump on the first possible opportunity to wax lyrical about how fantastic Southgate was. How is it entitlement to disagree with parts of a squad selection? Would you like to perhaps look up the definition of entitlement? In fact here, let me help you:

entitlement
noun
the fact of having a right to something.

or

the belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.


Disagreeing with some members of a squad being there doesn't fit either of those definitions. Would you like to try again?

[stainlessstephen]

Unfortunately lost interest in England a long time ago.

If they win anything it won't put steak on my table but will have to listen to it probably until my dying day.

When England have won as many titles as the likes of Brazil, Italy or Germany people can start to talk.

[twistedspire]

Quansah or Burn instead of Branthwaite,
Henderson instead of Wharton
Rashford instead of Gibbs-white
Solanke instead of Hudson-odei
Lewis-Skelly (walking red card) over Lewis Hall (I think Lewis Hall is injured but he's got to be in if fit & available)


4 Keepers for 2 matches (are they playing 45 minutes each) what a waste.

[sophocles]

 clarevoyant., on 14 March 2025 - 10:05 AM, said:

I thought you would have been old enough to remember Sir Alf.

I am - he was lucky to have less formidable opposition, many of the best players in the world at the time, and a lino in the final who gave the crucial 'goal' when he was in no position to see if it was over the line. In every respect, both on and off the field, Southgate is the best manager England have ever had. Tuchel will go the same way, eventually being crushed by the ridiculous level of entitlement that England 'should' beat every team in the world, and the eventual condemnation of millions of 'fans' explaining how they would win the World Cup while swigging pints in their local.

[Paul Fisher]

 sophocles, on 14 March 2025 - 11:02 AM, said:

I am - he was lucky to have less formidable opposition, many of the best players in the world at the time, and a lino in the final who gave the crucial 'goal' when he was in no position to see if it was over the line. In every respect, both on and off the field, Southgate is the best manager England have ever had. Tuchel will go the same way, eventually being crushed by the ridiculous level of entitlement that England 'should' beat every team in the world, and the eventual condemnation of millions of 'fans' explaining how they would win the World Cup while swigging pints in their local.

How to say you're a Jock without saying you're a Jock.

[prolurker]

 twistedspire, on 14 March 2025 - 10:56 AM, said:

Quansah or Burn instead of Branthwaite,
Henderson instead of Wharton
Rashford instead of Gibbs-white
Solanke instead of Hudson-odei
Lewis-Skelly (walking red card) over Lewis Hall (I think Lewis Hall is injured but he's got to be in if fit & available)


4 Keepers for 2 matches (are they playing 45 minutes each) what a waste.

Braithwaite deserves a spot but Burn has been excellent for a while.
Wharton coming back from long term injury so probably hasn't shown Tuchel his best yet or back up to fitness.
Rashford progressing well at Villa and MGW is a 10 not a wide player (should be getting in the squad though)
Solanke over Watkins is the bigger issue but Tuchel has highlighted he wants some physicality which might explain it.
Lewis Hall is out for the season, Lewis-Skelly can play in a few positions including LB which we've been desperately short on, hot head or not there's a good player in there.
Would have left Ramsdale at home but other 3 all have legitimate shouts of the number 1 shirt.

Would have left
Ramsdale, Walker, Henderson and Solanke out

Braithwaite, Watkins, Elliot Anderson, Wan-Bissaka in

[Trigger]

I've looked at this team and I don't know a few of those players (doesn't mean they're bad players). Tbf I've lost interest in top division football. Did we need 4 keepers for 2 games? Are walker, rashford and Henderson in there as some sort of a handover to the younger lads?

Who's livramento, Rogers and quansah? They any good?

[JonB]

 Trigger, on 14 March 2025 - 11:13 AM, said:

I've looked at this team and I don't know a few of those players (doesn't mean they're bad players). Tbf I've lost interest in top division football. Did we need 4 keepers for 2 games? Are walker, rashford and Henderson in there as some sort of a handover to the younger lads?

Who's livramento, Rogers and quansah? They any good?

livramento is a full back that can play either side and plays for Newcastle, Morgan Rogers has had a very good season in midfield for Villa and Quansah is a centre back from Liverpool but not first choice behind likes of Van Dijk and Konate.

[Trigger]

 JonB, on 14 March 2025 - 11:22 AM, said:

livramento is a full back that can play either side and plays for Newcastle, Morgan Rogers has had a very good season in midfield for Villa and Quansah is a centre back from Liverpool but not first choice behind likes of Van Dijk and Konate.

Thanks for that. I know I could have googled it. 👍 I'm well out of touch. Suppose I just prioritise other things. I started using ebay again so been busy with that stuff

[Westbars Spireite]

How can Connor Gallagher not be in? I'm far from a Forest fan but surely Gibbs-White should be in too. I know we've lots of decent players in similar areas of the pitch but still. As for Henderson....

This post has been edited by Westbars Spireite: 14 March 2025 - 12:10 PM

[Valley Blues]

 Westbars Spireite, on 14 March 2025 - 12:10 PM, said:

How can Connor Gallagher not be in? I'm far from a Forest fan but surely Gibbs-White should be in too. I know we've lots of decent players in similar areas of the pitch but still. As for Henderson....

It’s criminal Gibbs-White isn’t included.
He’s been nothing short of outstanding this season.

Henderson and Walker is a disgrace.