[Valley Blues]

calvin plummers socks, on 08 March 2025 - 09:31 AM, said:

The same things always happens with these far right parties and groups.
Think NF, EDL, BNP, BDP, BM even C18 etc etc
Is that they will always attract support but ultimately implode due to infighting.
In the case of EDL and NF it was the scandal within of peadofiles throughout (not sure why but the link between that type of person and angry lonely males primarily).

With a strong strategy and no scandal they would be a threat - however this will never happen due to egos and bad behaviour within.

*peadophiles

Surely you?re not suggesting it?s angry, white blokes that have a problem with mass paedophilia within their ranks?

Rochdale? Telford? Oldham? Rotherham? Seemingly every town and city within the UK?

[calvin plummers socks]

Valley Blues, on 08 March 2025 - 09:53 AM, said:

*peadophiles

Surely you?re not suggesting it?s angry, white blokes that have a problem with mass paedophilia within their ranks?

Rochdale? Telford? Oldham? Rotherham? Seemingly every town and city within the UK?

Google Tommy Robinson?s connections to child sex offenders! Startling.

[The Jolly Friar]

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Google Tommy Robinson?s connections to child sex offenders! Startling.
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Are you a Muslim? Is that why you refused to use the term Pakistani Muslims?

[Misnomer]

calvin plummers socks, on 08 March 2025 - 09:54 AM, said:

Google Tommy Robinson?s connections to child sex offenders! Startling.

🤣 Deary me....

[isleaiw1]

Valley Blues, on 08 March 2025 - 09:53 AM, said:

*peadophiles

Surely you?re not suggesting it?s angry, white blokes that have a problem with mass paedophilia within their ranks?

Rochdale? Telford? Oldham? Rotherham? Seemingly every town and city within the UK?

*paedophiles

You get it right lower down!

[Valley Blues]

isleaiw1, on 08 March 2025 - 12:07 PM, said:

*paedophiles

You get it right lower down!

Thank you 😂

[Wooden Spoon]

calvin plummers socks, on 08 March 2025 - 09:31 AM, said:

The same things always happens with these far right parties and groups.
Think NF, EDL, BNP, BDP, BM even C18 etc etc
Is that they will always attract support but ultimately implode due to infighting.
In the case of EDL and NF it was the scandal within of peadofiles throughout (not sure why but the link between that type of person and angry lonely males primarily).

With a strong strategy and no scandal they would be a threat - however this will never happen due to egos and bad behaviour within.

Do you honestly think reform are far right?

[Wooden Spoon]

Valley Blues, on 08 March 2025 - 09:53 AM, said:

*peadophiles

Surely you?re not suggesting it?s angry, white blokes that have a problem with mass paedophilia within their ranks?

Rochdale? Telford? Oldham? Rotherham? Seemingly every town and city within the UK?

1 in 73 Pakistani men prosecuted in Rotherham (ONS Statistics) would suggest one demographic has an issue with child rape gangs.


Just consider that percentage.


1 in 73.


Official ONS stat.


Not right wing propagandists nonsense. Not racist rhetorical publications


ONS statistics


Just sit and think about that number

And then think this has been covered up by police. By local councils. By child protection agencies. By county councils, by schools and by national government


Do you not feel a sense of outrage at this cover up?

People like Maggie Oliver, Sara Rowbotham, Jayne Senior who exposed this in the face of the establishment accusations and who had to resign are racists?

Or do we actually face the uncomfortable truth?


Yeah I know, let?s just call people far right racists. It?s easier.

This post has been edited by Wooden Spoon: 09 March 2025 - 09:42 AM

[Burgerman]

Wooden Spoon, on 09 March 2025 - 08:55 AM, said:

Do you honestly think reform are far right?

I think he believes anyone who discusses Reform is a racist.

Reform certainly aren?t far right, I don?t agree with their approach on many things but I do believe they are shaking up British politics and that?s been needed for a very long time. They still eat from the same trough as all the rest but they are bringing to the fore how people feel. People against illegal immigration aren?t necessarily racist as much as CPS drives that agenda. People are just very concerned for their families and not enough effective services in their communities.

[Wooden Spoon]

Burgerman, on 09 March 2025 - 09:42 AM, said:

I think he believes anyone who discusses Reform is a racist.

Reform certainly aren?t far right, I don?t agree with their approach on many things but I do believe they are shaking up British politics and that?s been needed for a very long time. They still eat from the same trough as all the rest but they are bringing to the fore how people feel. People against illegal immigration aren?t necessarily racist as much as CPS drives that agenda. People are just very concerned for their families and not enough effective services in their communities.

Trouble is people are polarised. If it?s left of centre it?s far left. It isn?t always. If it?s right of centre it?s racist nazi ideology and it isn?t always.

If it?s centrist then t lacks an ideology, when it doesn?t have to


Such is the state of politics


And CPS doesn?t know his 4R5E from a banjo, and couldn?t answer a direct question if he was asked what his favourite colour was.

This post has been edited by Wooden Spoon: 09 March 2025 - 09:51 AM

[calvin plummers socks]

Burgerman, on 09 March 2025 - 09:42 AM, said:

I think he believes anyone who discusses Reform is a racist.

Reform certainly aren?t far right, I don?t agree with their approach on many things but I do believe they are shaking up British politics and that?s been needed for a very long time. They still eat from the same trough as all the rest but they are bringing to the fore how people feel. People against illegal immigration aren?t necessarily racist as much as CPS drives that agenda. People are just very concerned for their families and not enough effective services in their communities.

Me driving an agenda?
What are you on about?

Wooden Spoon, on 09 March 2025 - 09:47 AM, said:

Trouble is people are polarised. If it?s left of centre it?s far left. It isn?t always. If it?s right of centre it?s racist nazi ideology and it isn?t always.

If it?s centrist then t lacks an ideology, when it doesn?t have to


Such is the state of politics


And CPS doesn?t know his 4R5E from a banjo, and couldn?t answer a direct question if he was asked what his favourite colour was.

What question have you ever asked me son?

Wooden Spoon, on 09 March 2025 - 08:55 AM, said:

Do you honestly think reform are far right?

I have no idea- what do you think?
I know that anyone who is far right will vote for them if that helps?

It?s clearly the party for the lesser blessed IQ

[s42blue]

calvin plummers socks, on 09 March 2025 - 11:48 AM, said:

Me driving an agenda?
What are you on about?



What question have you ever asked me son?



I have no idea- what do you think?
I know that anyone who is far right will vote for them if that helps?

It?s clearly the party for the lesser blessed IQ

If you have no idea about its ideology then how do you know its target audience?

Or is it in your omnipotence you disagree so everything is inferior?

[isleaiw1]

calvin plummers socks, on 09 March 2025 - 11:48 AM, said:

I know that anyone who is far right will vote for them if that helps?

It?s clearly the party for the lesser blessed IQ

Two things to say about that. First, just because right wing supporters vote reform doesn't make reform right wing.... in the same way that socialist workers and communist supporters voting Labour doesn't make SKS the new Trotski....

And there ate people of lower of lower IQ vote for all parties, in some cases because it's what they are told their "type" should do. Reform are no different to the rest


Before you brand me, I would never vote reform but I do think some of what they say resonates with parts of the electorate. That's why they have support, and 20% plus of the UK electorate can't be swpt away as thick or right wing racists...

[calvin plummers socks]

isleaiw1, on 09 March 2025 - 02:49 PM, said:

Two things to say about that. First, just because right wing supporters vote reform doesn't make reform right wing.... in the same way that socialist workers and communist supporters voting Labour doesn't make SKS the new Trotski....

And there ate people of lower of lower IQ vote for all parties, in some cases because it's what they are told their "type" should do. Reform are no different to the rest


Before you brand me, I would never vote reform but I do think some of what they say resonates with parts of the electorate. That's why they have support, and 20% plus of the UK electorate can't be swpt away as thick or right wing racists...

True
But Farage certainly is and he is (at the moment) still the big cheese there.

[Johnnyspireite7]

calvin plummers socks, on 09 March 2025 - 02:59 PM, said:

True
But Farage certainly is and he is (at the moment) still the big cheese there.

As is Tice and 30p Lee.

[isleaiw1]

calvin plummers socks, on 09 March 2025 - 02:59 PM, said:

True
But Farage certainly is and he is (at the moment) still the big cheese there.

And many union leaders, as well as members of the Labour hierarchy - calling the shots in Labour - are very left wing, should we denounce them as being too commie?

Just accept that each main party is a pretty broad church containing some views that most "normal, centrist" voters wouldnt support - but there isnt a perfect party so you have to find the one that seems to suit your views on what is important most...

And Reform are doing that. Nothing else matters.

[Johnnyspireite7]

isleaiw1, on 09 March 2025 - 04:41 PM, said:

And many union leaders, as well as members of the Labour hierarchy - calling the shots in Labour - are very left wing, should we denounce them as being too commie?

Just accept that each main party is a pretty broad church containing some views that most "normal, centrist" voters wouldnt support - but there isnt a perfect party so you have to find the one that seems to suit your views on what is important most...

And Reform are doing that. Nothing else matters.

The Reform MP's are not a broad church, they are all Millionaires who don't give a flying fig for the 'working class' and they are all right wing!

[calvin plummers socks]

isleaiw1, on 09 March 2025 - 04:41 PM, said:

And many union leaders, as well as members of the Labour hierarchy - calling the shots in Labour - are very left wing, should we denounce them as being too commie?

Call them whatever you like love- doesn?t bother me

[Mr Mercury]

Johnnyspireite7, on 09 March 2025 - 04:57 PM, said:

The Reform MP's are not a broad church, they are all Millionaires who don't give a flying fig for the 'working class' and they are all right wing!

Lee Anderson is an excellent local MP, but must admit I?ve no idea what?s in his bank account,

[isleaiw1]

Johnnyspireite7, on 09 March 2025 - 04:57 PM, said:

The Reform MP's are not a broad church, they are all Millionaires who don't give a flying fig for the 'working class' and they are all right wing!

There is nothing wrong with being a millionaire... and its not what the MPs are that matters its what the policies and the expectations are. After all, SKS and a few pf his colleagues are millionaires, and as it stands the incumbents are doing sod all for the working man... but they still vote for them because someone has told them they should....

calvin plummers socks, on 09 March 2025 - 05:12 PM, said:

Call them whatever you like love- doesn?t bother me

Good, perhaps if you arent bothered you shouldnt insult the others....

Mr Mercury, on 09 March 2025 - 05:28 PM, said:

Lee Anderson is an excellent local MP, but must admit I?ve no idea what?s in his bank account,

Only in the UK could we call someone a Millionaire as an insult...