[Valley Blues]

Is it telling that a prominent political poster is peppering the Reform thread with negative links but completely avoiding the Labour thread like the plague? 🤷🏻

How do you defend the indefensible, I imagine.

[Goku]

5 MPs and already fighting. Pitiful party, they?ll be revealed to all and sundry over time as the tinpot jokers they are 🤡🤡🤡

[Mr Mercury]

Goku, on 07 March 2025 - 08:13 PM, said:

5 MPs and already fighting. Pitiful party, they?ll be revealed to all and sundry over time as the tinpot jokers they are 🤡🤡🤡

Bad few hours mate I?ll not disagree. I follow them on X and I do agree with a lot of what Rupe says re illegal immigration, but he was getting a little bit of a loose cannon over the last week or so. No idea whether the allegations will be proven or go away, but you feel there was an under current from both sides. Thats the trouble with having a large vote share but an disproportionate number of MPs, friction and fractions are much more visible. Sadly I doubt it will happen but those with a right of centre political view need to stop splitting the vote and get together to represent the vast majority of the voting public to stop Starmer and his anti British government completely ruining the country.
Starmer isn?t wanted but the anti Starmer vote needs to unite, very tricky I know.
This could be my last post on this thread, I?d better start ignoring it, now things are getting tricky for Reform.

[isleaiw1]

Goku, on 07 March 2025 - 08:13 PM, said:

5 MPs and already fighting. Pitiful party, they?ll be revealed to all and sundry over time as the tinpot jokers they are 🤡🤡🤡

And yet Labour, who carefully choreographed who could stand in every seat as they had been planning an election for years, have suspended or sacked how many in the last 3 years...? including a former leader - and not forgetting that most people who vote for them seem to hate their most successful leader of the last 50 years.

Maybe those in glass houses should put the stones down...

[Goku]

isleaiw1, on 07 March 2025 - 08:39 PM, said:

And yet Labour, who carefully choreographed who could stand in every seat as they had been planning an election for years, have suspended or sacked how many in the last 3 years...? including a former leader - and not forgetting that most people who vote for them seem to hate their most successful leader of the last 50 years.

Maybe those in glass houses should put the stones down...

It?s a good job you?re so incredibly balanced and defend the left and right equally!

Oh wait?

[Misnomer]

Goku, on 07 March 2025 - 08:50 PM, said:

It?s a good job you?re so incredibly balanced and defend the left and right equally!

Oh wait?

I have to say, to his credit, Ian is probably THE most balanced bloke on this board.

[Goku]

Misnomer, on 07 March 2025 - 08:56 PM, said:

I have to say, to his credit, Ian is probably THE most balanced bloke on this board.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Top 5 Bobs Board post of all time

Correct answer is s42 btw. An actual centrist

This post has been edited by Goku: 07 March 2025 - 09:01 PM

[The Jolly Friar]

[quote name='The Earl of Chesterfield' timestamp='1741368822' post='1879540']
The first link clearly and directly quotes Rupert Lowe.

Who, as one of only five MP's, constitutes twenty percent of Reform's Parliamentary party.

A quip obviously too clever for this crowd.

Other than that the answer to my prompt is a resounding 'No'.

So I guess Reform fans will be even more desperate to avoid discussing this: https://www.independ...m-b2566506.html

https://www.itv.com/...ape-and-murders
[/quotefor

Nothing can be that desperate to compare with your support for the worst government and PM in British history and the fact you've been hiding under your duvet in embarrassment avoiding the Labour thread. You seem to spend most of your time linking to left wing rags that nobody reads but the worse thing is, you spend most of your time shouting racist and Islamophobe at anyone who challenges you. To be honest pal, I get the impression people are sick to death of you. One poster told me you decided use this platform to promote the Labour Party and the section has gone down hill ever since. You need to take a long break.

[Misnomer]

Goku, on 07 March 2025 - 09:00 PM, said:

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Top 5 Bobs Board post of all time

Correct answer is s42 btw. An actual centrist

Nah, he can be a sneaky wind up merchant.

[isleaiw1]

Goku, on 07 March 2025 - 08:50 PM, said:

It?s a good job you?re so incredibly balanced and defend the left and right equally!

Oh wait?

Do you understand the concept of providing missing information to ensure the overall picture is balanced so it doesnt have to come from one person balanced.

But for the avoidance of doubt, none of the parties have done anything to be proud of as far as I can see, they are all only interested in themselves and the power and ego trip.

Better? I have painted them all the same so very balanced....

Goku, on 07 March 2025 - 09:00 PM, said:

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Top 5 Bobs Board post of all time

Correct answer is s42 btw. An actual centrist

I'd agree with that. According to people who know me I am a socialist - that doesnt make me left or right as neither of the main parties in this country are.

[Misnomer]

Goku, on 07 March 2025 - 08:13 PM, said:

5 MPs and already fighting. Pitiful party, they?ll be revealed to all and sundry over time as the tinpot jokers they are 🤡🤡🤡

Get it all sorted out now; four years to go, absolutely nobody will care. #absolute landslide #Liebour obliterated #avoided civil war....

[calvin plummers socks]

Please remember that Rupert Lowe is innocent until proven guilty. Just like his fellow Reform MP James McMurdock was until he was sent to prison.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

So another page of posts and the last thing anyone wants to discuss are the evidence based prompts offered.

Plenty of personal taunts and jibes - though talk about Reform behaviour on the Reform topic?

Nah.

Yet I'm the one being evasive.

And what's Reform's policy on pensioners? On the WASPI women? On the NHS, public spending and taxation?

Anyone? Please, be my guest.

We have a Labour government, led by the charisma vacuum Starmer, proving to be the last lot 'lite'. We've an increasingly irrelevant Tory party, temporarily led by the painfully amateur Badenoch, fading into extinction. We've Lib Dem's and SNP who only appeal to limited and localised bases.

But whilst the public are so obviously desperate for an alternative, three quarters continue to resolutely reject Reform.

Because as Rupert Lowe is clearly quoted saying they're a one man, one policy party.

Which, as proven by his previous vanity vehicles, will probably implode amidst factionalism and extremism.

Maybe the Tories will replace Badenoch with a credible candidate. Maybe the Prime Minister's widely applauded performance on the international stage will translate to domestic popularity. Maybe the madness of King Trump the Second will render everything else irrelevant.

However actually getting elected, with all the scrutiny and responsibility that now elicits, could be the worst thing that ever happened to the 'ABC'* Farage...


*Anywhere But Clacton

This post has been edited by The Earl of Chesterfield: 08 March 2025 - 06:58 AM

[isleaiw1]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 08 March 2025 - 06:51 AM, said:

So another page of posts and the last thing anyone wants to discuss are the evidence based prompts offered.

Plenty of personal taunts and jibes - though talk about Reform behaviour on the Reform topic?

Nah.

Yet I'm the one being evasive.

And what's Reform's policy on pensioners? On the WASPI women? On the NHS, public spending and taxation?

Anyone? Please, be my guest.

We have a Labour government, led by the charisma vacuum Starmer, proving to be the last lot 'lite'. We've an increasingly irrelevant Tory party, temporarily led by the painfully amateur Badenoch, fading into extinction. We've Lib Dem's and SNP who only appeal to limited and localised bases.

But whilst the public are so obviously desperate for an alternative, three quarters continue to resolutely reject Reform.

Because as Rupert Lowe is clearly quoted saying they're a one man, one policy party.

Which, as proven by his previous vanity vehicles, will probably implode amidst factionalism and extremism.

Maybe the Tories will replace Badenoch with a credible candidate. Maybe the Prime Minister's widely applauded performance on the international stage will translate to domestic popularity. Maybe the madness of King Trump the Second will render everything else irrelevant.

However actually getting elected, with all the scrutiny and responsibility that now elicits, could be the worst thing that ever happened to the 'ABC'* Farage...


*Anywhere But Clacton

Still criticising others but staunchly avoiding the Labour thread....

On the resolutely rejecting reform, would you now accept that Labours landslide came about because a large chunk of the electorate resolutely rejected Labour... they won with no more votes than 2019, just that those that didn't vote for them chose another "not Labour" this time... and therefore what you said about the electorate not supporting reform equally applies to Labour.

I love how you ask about Reforms policy on a few things where we clearly didn't know Labours policy at the time of the election! Was the irony deliberate? Do we know Labours policy on some of those things now - or will it be different again come the spring statement?

Politicians, whatever their party, seem to have no conviction anymore, say what they thing people want to hear to get power, and then just look after themselves...

[s42blue]

Goku, on 07 March 2025 - 09:00 PM, said:

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Top 5 Bobs Board post of all time

Correct answer is s42 btw. An actual centrist

Gawd bless ya.

Misnomer, on 07 March 2025 - 09:19 PM, said:

Nah, he can be a sneaky wind up merchant.

Haha. Nothing sneaky about it. Just like to challenge and debate which is a rarity from certain posters. X

[Misnomer]

isleaiw1, on 08 March 2025 - 08:38 AM, said:

Still criticising others but staunchly avoiding the Labour thread....

On the resolutely rejecting reform, would you now accept that Labours landslide came about because a large chunk of the electorate resolutely rejected Labour... they won with no more votes than 2019, just that those that didn't vote for them chose another "not Labour" this time... and therefore what you said about the electorate not supporting reform equally applies to Labour.

I love how you ask about Reforms policy on a few things where we clearly didn't know Labours policy at the time of the election! Was the irony deliberate? Do we know Labours policy on some of those things now - or will it be different again come the spring statement?

Politicians, whatever their party, seem to have no conviction anymore, say what they thing people want to hear to get power, and then just look after themselves...

Oh, Ian; stop having such a sensible approach....

[calvin plummers socks]

The same things always happens with these far right parties and groups.
Think NF, EDL, BNP, BDP, BM even C18 etc etc
Is that they will always attract support but ultimately implode due to infighting.
In the case of EDL and NF it was the scandal within of peadofiles throughout (not sure why but the link between that type of person and angry lonely males primarily).

With a strong strategy and no scandal they would be a threat - however this will never happen due to egos and bad behaviour within.

[Misnomer]

calvin plummers socks, on 08 March 2025 - 09:31 AM, said:

The same things always happens with these far right parties and groups.
Think NF, EDL, BNP, BDP, BM even C18 etc etc
Is that they will always attract support but ultimately implode due to infighting.
In the case of EDL and NF it was the scandal within of peadofiles throughout (not sure why but the link between that type of person and angry lonely males primarily).

With a strong strategy and no scandal they would be a threat - however this will never happen due to egos and bad behaviour within.

Huge difference is, none of those 'parties' you listed, had anywhere near the backing that Reform has.

There's bad eggs in every party. As has already been pointed out; having so few members allows the spotlight to be heavily concentrated.

[The Jolly Friar]

calvin plummers socks, on 08 March 2025 - 12:38 AM, said:

Please remember that Rupert Lowe is innocent until proven guilty. Just like his fellow Reform MP James McMurdock was until he was sent to prison.

How's the security guard business going? There should be plenty of work in London so a bit surprised you say you're heading back to Town.

[calvin plummers socks]

Misnomer, on 08 March 2025 - 09:46 AM, said:

Huge difference is, none of those 'parties' you listed, had anywhere near the backing that Reform has.

There's bad eggs in every party. As has already been pointed out; having so few members allows the spotlight to be heavily concentrated.

True
I can?t see Reform lasting the year out though.
Farage will soon be ousted, Lowe seemingly gone, Tice now living in Dubai and has no connection with the parties members.
Getting Truss on board isn?t the best idea.