[Misnomer]

 Mr Mercury, on 04 March 2025 - 10:43 PM, said:

🚨 POLL | Ukraine crisis sees Reform surge to 1st place

🟣 REF 27% (+5)
🔴 LAB 24% (-5)
🔵 CON 23% (-5)
🟠 LD 15% (+6)
🟢 GRN 7% (-)

Lovely stuff....

[Goku]

Yours is a poll of 1200 people, here?s a more recent one of 2,222 people https://yougov.co.uk...-02-03-mar-2025

[Burgerman]

 Goku, on 05 March 2025 - 06:55 AM, said:

Yours is a poll of 1200 people, here?s a more recent one of 2,222 people https://yougov.co.uk...-02-03-mar-2025

So a poll of 2,222 is much more accurate? 😂

[Mr Mercury]

 Goku, on 05 March 2025 - 06:55 AM, said:

Yours is a poll of 1200 people, here?s a more recent one of 2,222 people https://yougov.co.uk...-02-03-mar-2025

Yes broadly in line with lots of polls over the last cpl of months. Which really goes to echo the fact that the Ukraine situation, although world news and an appalling conflict and Starmers attempt to show statesman like qualities on the world stage arnt really impacting voting intention here in the UK.
What UK voters are really concerned about is the way our farmers and pensioners and waspi women are treated and lied to, how our energy bills continue to spiral when we were lied to about them dropping, how people keep being told they?re having money put in their pockets when their living standards are falling, how unemployment is ticking up due to a disastrous budget, with many forecasting that will get worse after Aprils employer NI hike, how the numbers of illegal immigrants continue to soar after we were promised the gangs would be smashed, how immigrant hotel numbers continue to spiral after being promised they would be shut down, how the public see billions being spent on housing and feeding them, billions being spent giving Chagos away, billions being spent in Ukraine, whilst all the time seeing the financial state and living standards of this country collapse.
The Reform vote won?t collapse because Farage said Zelenskyy handled the Trump meeting badly and the Labour vote won?t surge because Starmer is trying to put together a bridge between the EU and US.
Basically people will vote on what?s happening in the UK and how the government run this country.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 05 March 2025 - 07:39 AM

[Goku]

 Burgerman, on 05 March 2025 - 07:28 AM, said:

So a poll of 2,222 is much more accurate? 😂

Almost twice as much!

[Burgerman]

 Goku, on 05 March 2025 - 07:41 AM, said:

Almost twice as much!

And you genuinely believe that 😂

[Goku]

 Burgerman, on 05 March 2025 - 07:58 AM, said:

And you genuinely believe that 😂

Simple maths m8

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Are Monster Raving Reform about to replicate Musk's rocket....?

https://www.independ...l-b2710416.html

https://www.bbc.co.u...os/cd65n750ello

https://www.express....arage-mike-tapp

[Mr Mercury]

Fear in the sneers and smears

[isleaiw1]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 07 March 2025 - 02:56 PM, said:

Are Monster Raving Reform about to replicate Musk's rocket....?

https://www.independ...l-b2710416.html

https://www.bbc.co.u...os/cd65n750ello

https://www.express....arage-mike-tapp

Anyone would think Labour were worried about the threat from reform......

No comment on the corrupt councillors in Liverpool found guilty of bribery and corruption? Dont think they were Reform or Tory though so we will gloss over it...

Or any comment on the content of the spring statement coming soon and the impact that will have on people...?

[Mr Mercury]

isleaiw1, on 07 March 2025 - 03:17 PM, said:

Anyone would think Labour were worried about the threat from reform......

No comment on the corrupt councillors in Liverpool found guilty of bribery and corruption? Dont think they were Reform or Tory though so we will gloss over it...

Or any comment on the content of the spring statement coming soon and the impact that will have on people...?

Labour MP for Dover more concerned about smearing Farage than his constituents worry about thousands of young men landing on his shores every month. I bet his constituents love him. Imho Lee was right to take him to task..

[Misnomer]

isleaiw1, on 07 March 2025 - 03:17 PM, said:

Anyone would think Labour were worried about the threat from reform......

No comment on the corrupt councillors in Liverpool found guilty of bribery and corruption? Dont think they were Reform or Tory though so we will gloss over it...

Or any comment on the content of the spring statement coming soon and the impact that will have on people...?

Noooo, just call them traitors and racists; ergo, anyone contemplating voting for them will be weighed down with such vile labels, they'll soon change their minds....

Not forgetting the ridiculously corrupt Birmingham council....

Folk aren't important; ideology before ignominy....

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 07 March 2025 - 02:56 PM, said:

Are Monster Raving Reform about to replicate Musk's rocket....?

https://www.independ...l-b2710416.html

https://www.bbc.co.u...os/cd65n750ello

https://www.express....arage-mike-tapp

Oh wow!....Seriously desperate times 😂 three of the worst smear attempts I've ever seen.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Link one: twenty percent of the Reform Parliamentary party express dissatisfaction with the leader.

Not a smear, quoted fact.

Link two: Reform's second in command goes all the way to Scotland, calls a press conference to celebrate the defection of two tory councillors, but humiliates himself by being unable to even name them.

Not a smear, video proven fact.

Link three: Lee Anderson has to be rebuked by the political editor of the propaganda platform paying him a six figure fee for going too far in slurring an MP. A former serviceman who's done three deployments for his country.

Not a smear, evidenced based fact reported by that left wing bastion the 'Express.

So, would anyone like to discuss Reform politicians on the Reform topic?

Or is this yet another thread which'll divert so predictably towards tropes, innuendo and conspiracy claims about migrants...

This post has been edited by The Earl of Chesterfield: 07 March 2025 - 04:37 PM

[Mr Mercury]

Conspiracy claims about migrants, not questioning the government reported figures are we. Thats becoming a national disgrace.
And Tice humiliated himself by forgetting a name lol, really!

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 07 March 2025 - 04:58 PM

[Misnomer]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 07 March 2025 - 04:35 PM, said:

Link one: twenty percent of the Reform Parliamentary party express dissatisfaction with the leader.

Not a smear, quoted fact.

Link two: Reform's second in command goes all the way to Scotland, calls a press conference to celebrate the defection of two tory councillors, but humiliates himself by being unable to even name them.

Not a smear, video proven fact.

Link three: Lee Anderson has to be rebuked by the political editor of the propaganda platform paying him a six figure fee for going too far in slurring an MP. A former serviceman who's done three deployments for his country.

Not a smear, evidenced based fact reported by that left wing bastion the 'Express.

So, would anyone like to discuss Reform politicians on the Reform topic?

Or is this yet another thread which'll divert so predictably towards tropes, innuendo and conspiracy claims about migrants...

Link 1...where does it actually say that? Secondly, it's all a 'source' said, and taking words out of context - desperate.

Link 2....who cares; only yesterday, Raynor embarrassed herself AGAIN - desperate.

Link 3...he responded to the Labour MP calling Farage a 'false patriot', and? Have you watched it? Talk about overblown use of language; what an utterly pathetic none story. Six figures? Have you seen his contract? - desperate.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

The first link clearly and directly quotes Rupert Lowe.

Who, as one of only five MP's, constitutes twenty percent of Reform's Parliamentary party.

A quip obviously too clever for this crowd.

Other than that the answer to my prompt is a resounding 'No'.

So I guess Reform fans will be even more desperate to avoid discussing this: https://www.independ...m-b2566506.html

https://www.itv.com/...ape-and-murders

[Mr Mercury]

Problems for Rupert Lowe, allegations of bullying two female staff members.
Full investigation and deal with him accordingly in my view.
Re Tate, I don’t really have anything to do with influencers, seems a pretty obnoxious person, if he faces trial then justice will take its course.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 07 March 2025 - 05:40 PM

[isleaiw1]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 07 March 2025 - 05:33 PM, said:

The first link clearly and directly quotes Rupert Lowe.

Who, as one of only five MP's, constitutes twenty percent of Reform's Parliamentary party.

A quip obviously too clever for this crowd.

Other than that the answer to my prompt is a resounding 'No'.

So I guess Reform fans will be even more desperate to avoid discussing this: https://www.independ...m-b2566506.html

https://www.itv.com/...ape-and-murders

I see another Labour MP has come out against the tax on farms on inheritance. If we add that to the ones who have voted against other things we must be well into double figures. Is it "honourable disagreements" in Labour but mutiny in Reform?

If we cant post about anything other than Reform in this thread are you going to stop peppering the Labour thread with defences or the last lot were worse. Oh wait, you only do one of those as the current lot are as crap as the last but you will never admit that...

[Johnnyspireite7]

Mr Mercury, on 07 March 2025 - 05:36 PM, said:

Problems for Rupert Lowe, allegations of bullying two female staff members. Full investigation and deal with him accordingly in my view.Re Tate, I don?t really have anything to do with influencers, seems a pretty obnoxious person, if he faces trial then justice will take its course.

And it gets better

https://www.bbc.co.u...es/c4ge5jl62nro

What's the phrase I'm looking for 'Put rats in a bag and they'll start fighting'?

This post has been edited by Johnnyspireite7: 07 March 2025 - 06:01 PM

[isleaiw1]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 07 March 2025 - 05:33 PM, said:

The first link clearly and directly quotes Rupert Lowe.

Who, as one of only five MP's, constitutes twenty percent of Reform's Parliamentary party.

A quip obviously too clever for this crowd.

Other than that the answer to my prompt is a resounding 'No'.

So I guess Reform fans will be even more desperate to avoid discussing this: https://www.independ...m-b2566506.html

https://www.itv.com/...ape-and-murders

Wouldn't it be strong and decisive leadership if Starmer reported one of his MPs in like circumstances?

And of course a Labour MP has just been in court and found guilty for hitting someone so you can't separate the parties on the behaviour of an MP.

As I said earlier, they are all as bad as each other...

Johnnyspireite7, on 07 March 2025 - 05:58 PM, said:

And it gets better

https://www.bbc.co.u...es/c4ge5jl62nro

What's the phrase I'm looking for 'Put rats in a bag and they'll start fighting'?

To be fair, he did only THREATEN to hit his party Chair, not ACTUALLY hit a constituent...

But of course he is Labour so it's an isolated person and not representative of the whole party....

Hypocrites are everywhere it seems!