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Posted 12 February 2025 - 03:03 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 12 February 2025 - 02:45 PM, said:

I see Prevent once again in the news for allowing the murderer of MP David Amess to exit from the anti terror programme too quickly. Kid gloves again.


Yet another stupid Tory idea that backfired
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Posted 14 February 2025 - 09:10 PM

https://www.stokesen...-caught-9927751

Absolutely zero two tier justice going on....

The judge pretty much licks his ar?e.

The white folk that were sent down for similar or less, also had jobs, children to look after, brothers and sisters.

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Posted 14 February 2025 - 11:20 PM

View Postcalvin plummers socks, on 12 February 2025 - 03:03 PM, said:

Yet another stupid Tory idea that backfired

Prevent was a bad idea? Really?


Why are you only saying this now? And not at its launch?
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Posted 14 February 2025 - 11:24 PM

View PostMisnomer, on 14 February 2025 - 09:10 PM, said:

https://www.stokesen...-caught-9927751

Absolutely zero two tier justice going on....

The judge pretty much licks his ar?e.

The white folk that were sent down for similar or less, also had jobs, children to look after, brothers and sisters.




Reform are being handed ticks in the boxes by the establishment
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Posted 15 February 2025 - 12:00 AM

View PostWooden Spoon, on 14 February 2025 - 11:20 PM, said:

Prevent was a bad idea? Really?


Why are you only saying this now? And not at its launch?


Oh I did
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Posted 15 February 2025 - 03:16 PM

View Postcalvin plummers socks, on 15 February 2025 - 12:00 AM, said:

Oh I did



Fair play if you did then
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Posted 15 February 2025 - 05:33 PM

Is it just me. Why are you adding to this when we are playing.
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Posted 21 February 2025 - 08:59 PM

A female Egyptian doctor is spared deportation and any further action even though the judge said her posts supporting the Hamas massacres were truly vile he accepted they were one offs and short lived.
Two tier Keirs two tier justice system at its finest.
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Posted 24 February 2025 - 04:40 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 21 February 2025 - 08:59 PM, said:

A female Egyptian doctor is spared deportation and any further action even though the judge said her posts supporting the Hamas massacres were truly vile he accepted they were one offs and short lived.
Two tier Keirs two tier justice system at its finest.


Just imagine if a white woman had said something similar about illegal immigrants....
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Posted 24 February 2025 - 08:31 PM

View PostMisnomer, on 24 February 2025 - 04:40 PM, said:

Just imagine if a white woman had said something similar about illegal immigrants....



5 years id imagine
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Posted 24 February 2025 - 09:15 PM

So yesterday we had Starmer making thinly veiled accusations of dangerous right wing politics towards the Reform party and its members, then today a Reform party rally in Cornwall was marred by up to 100 masked protesters outside and it needed police intervention. I?m awaiting Starmers arrest for inciting political violence.

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Posted 24 February 2025 - 09:20 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 24 February 2025 - 09:15 PM, said:

So yesterday we had Starmer making thinly veiled accusations of dangerous right wing politics towards the Reform party and its members, then today a Reform party rally in Cornwall was marred by up to 100 masked protesters outside and it needed police intervention. I?m awaiting Starmers arrest for inciting political violence.


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Posted 14 April 2025 - 07:41 AM

https://www.theguard...ss-report-finds

“Two tier policing during 2024 summer riots baseless, report finds”

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Posted 14 April 2025 - 08:13 AM

View PostGoku, on 14 April 2025 - 07:41 AM, said:

https://www.theguard...ss-report-finds

“Two tier policing during 2024 summer riots baseless, report finds”

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Very apt you put the eyes there mate, because regardless what any report says people coukd see with their own peepers what happened.
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Posted 14 April 2025 - 05:14 PM

Last summer an atrocity was committed.

Little girls attacked by an evil madman leaving three dead.

An unspeakable tragedy that horrified the entire country.

But amidst that horror some sensed an opportunity. To peddle division. To peddle hatred. To peddle insinuation.

So they took to social media and the airwaves to lie.

They lied the murderer was a migrant - he wasn't.

They lied the murderer was a muslim - he wasn't.

They lied the murderer was part of a terrorist plot - he wasn't.

Yet thousands of morons and cretins and racists influenced by those lies began attacking people and property and police.

Then when those lies were discredited and the riots robustly quelled they lied about two tier policing. Smearing the courageous coppers facing down violent criminals.

Worse still they lied these criminals were simply solid working class citizens expressing concern.

Despite there being no civil disorder in Birdholme, a community of solid working class citizens with equally valid concerns. Or Grassmoor. Or Newbold. Or Brimmington or Clay Cross or Staveley.

Or in countless other solid working class communities throughout the UK soiled by the crass association.

Well this report confirms what every reasonable person knew all along - the 'two tier policing' accusation is a myth. Sinister whataboutery to deflect from the fact prominent individuals intentionally fermented widespread conflict. A cynical conspiracy perpetuated to somehow excuse the morons and cretins and racists.

Last summer an atrocity was committed.

However rather than the three victims, it'll now be remembered for the behaviour of those who cared nothing for them and instead created a bandwaggon of bigotry...
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Posted 14 April 2025 - 07:35 PM

View PostThe Earl of Chesterfield, on 14 April 2025 - 05:14 PM, said:

Last summer an atrocity was committed.

Little girls attacked by an evil madman leaving three dead.

An unspeakable tragedy that horrified the entire country.

But amidst that horror some sensed an opportunity. To peddle division. To peddle hatred. To peddle insinuation.

So they took to social media and the airwaves to lie.

They lied the murderer was a migrant - he wasn't.

They lied the murderer was a muslim - he wasn't.

They lied the murderer was part of a terrorist plot - he wasn't.

Yet thousands of morons and cretins and racists influenced by those lies began attacking people and property and police.

Then when those lies were discredited and the riots robustly quelled they lied about two tier policing. Smearing the courageous coppers facing down violent criminals.

Worse still they lied these criminals were simply solid working class citizens expressing concern.

Despite there being no civil disorder in Birdholme, a community of solid working class citizens with equally valid concerns. Or Grassmoor. Or Newbold. Or Brimmington or Clay Cross or Staveley.

Or in countless other solid working class communities throughout the UK soiled by the crass association.

Well this report confirms what every reasonable person knew all along - the 'two tier policing' accusation is a myth. Sinister whataboutery to deflect from the fact prominent individuals intentionally fermented widespread conflict. A cynical conspiracy perpetuated to somehow excuse the morons and cretins and racists.

Last summer an atrocity was committed.

However rather than the three victims, it'll now be remembered for the behaviour of those who cared nothing for them and instead created a bandwaggon of bigotry...


Lots of agenda driven bollox, as per; especially, that last paragraph. Remember, this is just YOUR view and, surprise surprise, that of the absolute nutjob, James O'Brien, and The Guardian....who knew.

Let's be clear NOBODY had a problem with the actual policing of the riots.

However, watching the police letting Just Stop Oil, middle class morons, with consummate ease, get to the Cenotaph; watching the police letting BLM morons run amock in the capital city; watching the police letting pro Palestine/pro Hammas filth daube nonsense all over the capital/shouting racist hatred to our Jewish community; watching the police letting Muslim lads brazenly walk around with machetes, hammers and knives...then having a quiet word with them to drop them off at the mosque; watching the police running off from a riot in Leeds....

Let's compare that to the disgusting policing of the peaceful COVID protestors; the disgusting heavy-handed, full riot gear, policing/kettling of peaceful protests in London, regarding people expressing concern over the illegal immigration crisis; the casual standing by of the police, while innocent white men are hospitalised by tooled up gangs of Muslim lads....

If you can't see a difference between the different policing methods for certain populations, then I'd suggest you are choosing to be blind to it. Not only that, there are numerous ex-cops/retired cops, who are openly stating (online, YouTube, X, news) that there are different approaches taken for different populations....what's that called, two tier, or just different approaches?

Additionally, the two tier accusations are also in reference to the ridiculous sentences handed out to offenders who shouted and posted their opinions online; whilst various other populations were, without redress, allowed to spout their bile. Obviously, some people were overjoyed at the sentences; some wanted 'whitey' to get their 'heads kicked in' by Muslim lads; some of very dubious morality, were even happy that, whilst in prison, offenders committed suicide.

One last thing: if he isn't a terrorist, what was the ricin for? Why did Counter Terrorism have him on watch list?

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Posted 14 April 2025 - 07:48 PM

To be fair, this lad was on the watchlist because he was known to be a dangerous individual but had no obvious political or religious motivation. So in the traditional definition wouldn’t be classed as a terrorist.


It’s one of those rare cases that sits in the middle of two legal definitions


A madman who used terrorist propaganda and info just to want to kill people
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Posted 14 April 2025 - 07:53 PM

View PostMisnomer, on 14 April 2025 - 07:35 PM, said:

Lots of agenda driven bollox, as per; especially, that last paragraph. Remember, this is just YOUR view and, surprise surprise, that of the absolute nutjob, James O'Brien, and The Guardian....who knew.

Let's be clear NOBODY had a problem with the actual policing of the riots.

However, watching the police letting Just Stop Oil, middle class morons, with consummate ease, get to the Cenotaph; watching the police letting BLM morons run amock in the capital city; watching the police letting pro Palestine/pro Hammas filth daube nonsense all over the capital/shouting racist hatred to our Jewish community; watching the police letting Muslim lads brazenly walk around with machetes, hammers and knives...then having a quiet word with them to drop them off at the mosque; watching the police running off from a riot in Leeds....

Let's compare that to the disgusting policing of the peaceful COVID protestors; the disgusting heavy-handed, full riot gear, policing/kettling of peaceful protests in London, regarding people expressing concern over the illegal immigration crisis; the casual standing by of the police, while innocent white men are hospitalised by tooled up gangs of Muslim lads....

If you can't see a difference between the different policing methods for certain populations, then I'd suggest you are choosing to be blind to it. Not only that, there are numerous ex-cops/retired cops, who are openly stating (online, YouTube, X, news) that there are different approaches taken for different populations....what's that called, two tier, or just different approaches?

Additionally, the two tier accusations are also in reference to the ridiculous sentences handed out to offenders who shouted and posted their opinions online; whilst various other populations were, without redress, allowed to spout their bile. Obviously, some people were overjoyed at the sentences; some wanted 'whitey' to get their 'heads kicked in' by Muslim lads; some of very dubious morality, were even happy that, whilst in prison, offenders committed suicide.

One last thing: if he isn't a terrorist, what was the ricin for? Why did Counter Terrorism have him on watch list?

Great post. Difficult to argue with any of that.
Two tier policing certainly exists in the UK, along with two tier justice, we even have guidance now to prove that.

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Posted 14 April 2025 - 08:12 PM

View PostWooden Spoon, on 14 April 2025 - 07:48 PM, said:

To be fair, this lad was on the watchlist because he was known to be a dangerous individual but had no obvious political or religious motivation. So in the traditional definition wouldn’t be classed as a terrorist.


It’s one of those rare cases that sits in the middle of two legal definitions


A madman who used terrorist propaganda and info just to want to kill people


It's a difficult one to place, agreed.

However, we know he hated white people and wanted the extermination of said population. Therefore, with the murdering of three white girl, coupled with the possibility he would have used the ricin on white people; surely, that would be an act of terrorism?
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Posted 14 April 2025 - 08:17 PM

View PostWooden Spoon, on 14 April 2025 - 07:48 PM, said:

To be fair, this lad was on the watchlist because he was known to be a dangerous individual but had no obvious political or religious motivation. So in the traditional definition wouldn’t be classed as a terrorist.


It’s one of those rare cases that sits in the middle of two legal definitions


A madman who used terrorist propaganda and info just to want to kill people

He hadnt, but had his family? And how did they arrive in the UK and who helped? Questions that could be part of another cover up, couldn’t they?
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