[spireitetoo]

Gatesheed-Spireite, on 23 February 2025 - 01:12 AM, said:

I haven't watched or was able to follow the game closely today. Is it possible we played so bad because of the injury to Williams? Heads in the wrong place maybe?

Not an excuse, but potentially a factor

Not really no, 1st half prior to the injury, we were controlling the game without really threatening, after the injury, they had a 10 minute spell where we had lost shape obviously caused by the injury to Ty, but we settled down and recovered our shape, controlled the ball better, but still created nothing...

2nd half, we went all Walsall again.. absolutely clueless, no possession no shape, no midfield..


And it also looks like Donacien is injured again as he was holding his groin again prior to going off...

Personally I hope he's not here next season.. (not sure if his contract only runs till end of season) we need fully fit players, he's at an age now where his injury is going to keep repeating itself.

This post has been edited by spireitetoo: 23 February 2025 - 08:13 AM

[dim view]

DIFH, on 22 February 2025 - 10:55 PM, said:

At the same time you have to acknowledge Gunning did a job on us, tough tackling, limiting us in the air and bang you limit our attacking flow to zero.

It was obvious from the pre-match Presser that roughing us up would be their main tactic.

Can somebody talk us through the Sparkes neck forearm lock incident please? Did their manager get himself sent off to divert the ref's attention from administering the correct punishment to the player and did their man get booked? From brief highlights it looks like a simple sending off offence.

[NOFX]

dim view, on 23 February 2025 - 08:13 AM, said:

It was obvious from the pre-match Presser that roughing us up would be their main tactic.

Can somebody talk us through the Sparkes neck forearm lock incident please? Did their manager get himself sent off to divert the ref's attention from administering the correct punishment to the player and did their man get booked? From brief highlights it looks like a simple sending off offence.

[lindave]

What was the 4th official doing he was stood less than 5yds away.

[NOFX]

Looked a sending off fourth official there to help the ref if he didn?t see it

[Goku]

lindave, on 23 February 2025 - 08:52 AM, said:

What was the 4th official doing he was stood less than 5yds away.

Add it to the laughably long list of times we?ve been shafted by officials this season.

[rodney]

dim view, on 23 February 2025 - 08:13 AM, said:

It was obvious from the pre-match Presser that roughing us up would be their main tactic.

Can somebody talk us through the Sparkes neck forearm lock incident please? Did their manager get himself sent off to divert the ref's attention from administering the correct punishment to the player and did their man get booked? From brief highlights it looks like a simple sending off offence.

Yes he got booked.

[clarevoyant.]

A few thoughts:-

We was the better side up to the injury.

The pitch was awful as was Cheltenham and Walsall depriving us of one of our main assets the skills and quick feet of Dobs Duffy and Ogy and on the occasions they didn't a no nonsense take one for the team applied.

Whilst on about the pitch in the first half their centre half completely shanked one over his head for a corner, lucky b..ger, we do similar , goal.

Didn't see the potential sending off tussle however the same ref sent Dunkley off incorrectly at Gills. Oh well.

2nd half they had 2 free headers on goal we ain't learnt much from last week.

Anybody got a clue why our goal was disallowed from our sun impaired view I haven't a clue. Game changing maybe!!!

They clearly roughed us up 1st half we must toughen up and play the ref better.

The best bit. Cirencester is a great pre match stop off, no doubt Sky will make next seasons game a silly KO time ruining the day completely

And finally and most importantly all the best Tye.

[frearsghost]

clarevoyant., on 23 February 2025 - 10:24 AM, said:

A few thoughts:-

We was the better side up to the injury.

The pitch was awful as was Cheltenham and Walsall depriving us of one of our main assets the skills and quick feet of Dobs Duffy and Ogy and on the occasions they didn't a no nonsense take one for the team applied.

Whilst on about the pitch in the first half their centre half completely shanked one over his head for a corner, lucky b..ger, we do similar , goal.

Didn't see the potential sending off tussle however the same ref sent Dunkley off incorrectly at Gills. Oh well.

2nd half they had 2 free headers on goal we ain't learnt much from last week.

Anybody got a clue why our goal was disallowed from our sun impaired view I haven't a clue. Game changing maybe!!!

They clearly roughed us up 1st half we must toughen up and play the ref better.

The best bit. Cirencester is a great pre match stop off, no doubt Sky will make next seasons game a silly KO time ruining the day completely

And finally and most importantly all the best Tye.

Anxiously awaiting an update on his condition. Hoping its not serious.

[Mr Mercury]

paulwardle, on 22 February 2025 - 07:03 PM, said:

A league where all teams generally capable of beating each other.

With our bad luck on injuries front the defence has been constantly changing and hence why our away form has been sloppy at best.

Coupled with a lack of fire power up front mid table was always a realistic ambition this season once injuries set in.

A number of players need moving on at end of season, including the likes of Madden, Banks, Colclough, Msndeville, Palmer, Hobson, plus a few more.

With our support and building a team for next season that can mix the play a bit more I believe promotion automatically should be a realistic challenge, whereas this Season it was more about consolidation despite the hype.

A lot of good points but I disagree that this season was always going to be one of consolidation. It?s true it?s probably turned into that, but I don?t think that was ever a view from the top.
The previous seasons signings of Grigg and Naylor, for me at least, was clearly done not only with the original target of winning the league but with one eye on pushing on again this season. Add this years signings of the experience and quality of Dunkley and Madden, the long term loans of Markanday, Metcalfe, Tanton and Arujo, all done for stability and a settled season, I think top 7 would have been the very realistic goal for both the owners and management. I certainly don?t think they viewed it as a consolidation season. In fact as recently as the Bradford away game when we went 1-0 up we were second in the live table, but as we now know injuries have done for us. Too many injuries coupled with too many signings. I certainly don?t view this season s a disaster after we?re we?ve been these last few years, but I think many will view the end result as a disappointment. That?s not to say I?m not fully behind Cook, the Kirk?s and the club going forward, just that we?ve hit a bit of a big bump in the road these last few weeks resulting in the wheels wobbling somewhat.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 23 February 2025 - 11:17 AM

[Goku]

Mr Mercury, on 23 February 2025 - 10:37 AM, said:

A lot of good points but I disagree that this season was always going to be one of consolidation. It?s true it?s probably turned into that, but I don?t think that was ever a view from the top.
The previous seasons signings of Grigg and Naylor, for me at least, was clearly done not only with the original target of winning the league but with one eye on pushing on again this season. Add this years signings of the experience and quality of Dunkley and Madden, the long term loans of Markanday, Tanton and Arujo, all done for stability and a settled season, I think top 7 would have been the very realistic goal for both the owners and management. I certainly don?t think they views it as a consolidation season. In fact as recently as the Bradford away game when we went 1-0 up we were second in the live table, but as we now know injuries have done for us. Too many injuries coupled with too many signings. I certainly don?t view this season s a disaster after we?re we?ve been these last few years, but I think many will view the end result as a disappointment. That?s not to say I?m not fully behind Cook, the Kirk?s and the club going forward, just that we?ve hit a bit of a big bump in the road these last few weeks resulting in the whelks wobbling somewhat.

Summed up very well mate, agree with every word.

[azul]

clarevoyant., on 23 February 2025 - 10:24 AM, said:

A few thoughts:-

We was the better side up to the injury.

The pitch was awful as was Cheltenham and Walsall depriving us of one of our main assets the skills and quick feet of Dobs Duffy and Ogy and on the occasions they didn't a no nonsense take one for the team applied.

Whilst on about the pitch in the first half their centre half completely shanked one over his head for a corner, lucky b..ger, we do similar , goal.

Didn't see the potential sending off tussle however the same ref sent Dunkley off incorrectly at Gills. Oh well.

2nd half they had 2 free headers on goal we ain't learnt much from last week.

Anybody got a clue why our goal was disallowed from our sun impaired view I haven't a clue. Game changing maybe!!!

They clearly roughed us up 1st half we must toughen up and play the ref better.

The best bit. Cirencester is a great pre match stop off, no doubt Sky will make next seasons game a silly KO time ruining the day completely

And finally and most importantly all the best Tye.

Thought I had imagined the disallowed goal as nobody had mentioned it. There didn't seem to be any contact on the keeper but I think the whistle had gone before the ball finally entered the net. Look forward to seeing what happened on the highlights or match replay.

The complete radio silence from the club is deeply worrying and hope the news of Williams isn't too bad.

This post has been edited by azul: 23 February 2025 - 11:12 AM

[NOFX]

Why was our goal disallowed ? Their keeper missed the ball it took a deflection and went in. There was no foul on the keeper some six of one half a dozen of the other pushing by defenders on attackers as seen at every corner, and it?s no goal.

[dim view]

clarevoyant., on 23 February 2025 - 10:24 AM, said:

A few thoughts:-

We was the better side up to the injury.

The pitch was awful as was Cheltenham and Walsall depriving us of one of our main assets the skills and quick feet of Dobs Duffy and Ogy and on the occasions they didn't a no nonsense take one for the team applied.

Whilst on about the pitch in the first half their centre half completely shanked one over his head for a corner, lucky b..ger, we do similar , goal.

Didn't see the potential sending off tussle however the same ref sent Dunkley off incorrectly at Gills. Oh well.

2nd half they had 2 free headers on goal we ain't learnt much from last week.

Anybody got a clue why our goal was disallowed from our sun impaired view I haven't a clue. Game changing maybe!!!

They clearly roughed us up 1st half we must toughen up and play the ref better.

The best bit. Cirencester is a great pre match stop off, no doubt Sky will make next seasons game a silly KO time ruining the day completely

And finally and most importantly all the best Tye.

Morning
How did Pepple do?
Obviously the holder of the jersey that leads the line being effective is kinda crucial.

[warfey is a spireite]

spireitetoo, on 23 February 2025 - 08:13 AM, said:

Not really no, 1st half prior to the injury, we were controlling the game without really threatening, after the injury, they had a 10 minute spell where we had lost shape obviously caused by the injury to Ty, but we settled down and recovered our shape, controlled the ball better, but still created nothing...

2nd half, we went all Walsall again.. absolutely clueless, no possession no shape, no midfield..


And it also looks like Donacien is injured again as he was holding his groin again prior to going off...

Personally I hope he's not here next season.. (not sure if his contract only runs till end of season) we need fully fit players, he's at an age now where his injury is going to keep repeating itself.

Why does. Cook keep signing players that are crocked , donacien never looked fit ,fleck,etc,the cooper guy from Plymouth,how many more?

[clarevoyant.]

NOFX, on 23 February 2025 - 11:11 AM, said:

Why was our goal disallowed ? Their keeper missed the ball it took a deflection and went in. There was no foul on the keeper some six of one half a dozen of the other pushing by defenders on attackers as seen at every corner, and it?s no goal.

We didn't see owt untoward and thought he'd blown early, possibly he'd made his mind up that Swindon were getting a free kick for whatever with him thinking he'd missed something earlier in the build up.

[clarevoyant.]

dim view, on 23 February 2025 - 11:13 AM, said:

Morning
How did Pepple do?
Obviously the holder of the jersey that leads the line being effective is kinda crucial.

Mainly ineffective. Our change in tactics should have suited him, but has with our other front players the conditions and our lack of ability in deploying these tactics didn't do him any favours. The use of the long ball was poor (albeit tricky in the wind) and wayward. He didn't win much in the air and when he did there was no one to feed of it mainly because no one expected him to win it or couldn't anticipate the direction. His play with back to goal (midfield) and ball to feet was mainly nullified by the poor state of the (strange coincidence 3 away games on the trot) limiting his normal ability to turn his man. Unfortunately cant comment on his work in the box because there wasn't any, but that wasn't his fault we rarely got the ball there.

Looking forward to seeing his undoubted ability but yesterday wasn't it, yesterday was a day for a Bob Newton type centre forward.

Edit

Must add you definitely can't fault his work rate off the ball.

This post has been edited by clarevoyant.: 23 February 2025 - 12:19 PM

[HaslandBlue58]

Mr Mercury, on 23 February 2025 - 10:37 AM, said:

A lot of good points but I disagree that this season was always going to be one of consolidation. It?s true it?s probably turned into that, but I don?t think that was ever a view from the top.
The previous seasons signings of Grigg and Naylor, for me at least, was clearly done not only with the original target of winning the league but with one eye on pushing on again this season. Add this years signings of the experience and quality of Dunkley and Madden, the long term loans of Markanday, Metcalfe, Tanton and Arujo, all done for stability and a settled season, I think top 7 would have been the very realistic goal for both the owners and management. I certainly don?t think they viewed it as a consolidation season. In fact as recently as the Bradford away game when we went 1-0 up we were second in the live table, but as we now know injuries have done for us. Too many injuries coupled with too many signings. I certainly don?t view this season s a disaster after we?re we?ve been these last few years, but I think many will view the end result as a disappointment. That?s not to say I?m not fully behind Cook, the Kirk?s and the club going forward, just that we?ve hit a bit of a big bump in the road these last few weeks resulting in the wheels wobbling somewhat.

Can't disagree with any of that, sums it up for me.

[60s 70s Spireite]

NOFX, on 23 February 2025 - 11:11 AM, said:

Why was our goal disallowed ? Their keeper missed the ball it took a deflection and went in. There was no foul on the keeper some six of one half a dozen of the other pushing by defenders on attackers as seen at every corner, and it?s no goal.

Strangely (!) Swindons extended highlights fail to show the incident. Mind they do show slo mo of the throw of Sparkes to the ground. Not sure why that wasnt a red card offence.

[clarevoyant.]

60s 70s Spireite, on 23 February 2025 - 11:59 AM, said:

Strangely (!) Swindons extended highlights fail to show the incident. Mind they do show slo mo of the throw of Sparkes to the ground. Not sure why that wasnt a red card offence.

Retrospective maybe, what's good for the goose etc etc. Oh no that didn't work for the Notts lad, it only appears to happen when no one sees it, apart from a club official whilst having a chat withe an assessor.