[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Wooden Spoon, on 12 January 2025 - 04:41 AM, said:

They sack Dyche for being negative and defensive (never mind the lack of money to sign anyone half decent) and replace him with a negative and defensive manager?

Agreed.

Moyes is a solid performer who'll guarantee mid table football.

But I'd have thought they'd go for someone more showbiz given the move to a new ground...

This post has been edited by The Earl of Chesterfield: 12 January 2025 - 09:23 AM

[Between The Sticks]

Osborne again, on 10 January 2025 - 10:27 AM, said:

Exactly, awful club for many years now,in fact since around the time Moyes left. Dyche has had no real money to play with. They were a decent side for many a year, but now I'm struggling to name more than three or four players who are worth going to watch.
As you rightly say, without Dyche at the helm they would be playing Championship football now or maybe even lower, because he saved their bacon twice,last season and the one before.

I can see him rocking up at West Brom. They have a vacancy at present and he fits the bill as to what they require at the moment.

[Johnnyspireite7]

Wooden Spoon, on 12 January 2025 - 09:01 AM, said:

Personally I thought he was better second time around.He never had pace and that stopped him from having a career at the very top. Played for years in the championship and one season in the top flight. Had he been half a yard faster he?d have been a bottom 6 premiership defender most of his career IMO. He had talent, strength etc but was a bit raw first time around. Second time around he had experience and could read a game so much better that his positioning meant he didn?t need the pace. Holloway said at QPR he needs to come to terms with his lack of pace to become a better player - Evo left QPR for Blackpool but then had his best spell of his career under Holloway at Blackpool a few years later.

Technically he had 3 seasons in the Premier League, Derby were in the PL when he played in 4 games in the 2000-01 and 2001-02 seasons.

This post has been edited by Johnnyspireite7: 12 January 2025 - 10:29 AM

[Misnomer]

Wooden Spoon, on 12 January 2025 - 04:41 AM, said:

They sack Dyche for being negative and defensive (never mind the lack of money to sign anyone half decent) and replace him with a negative and defensive manager?

He was far from being negative at Preston; they were great to watch.

Sometimes, you have to adapt to the league, work to budget restraints, and employ a system that ensures survival and makes you difficult to beat.

I think some Everton fans (and West Ham, for that matter) think they are still in the glory days of the 80s. Both teams faltered once Moyes left. Man Utd were/are a basket case; he wasn't given long enough and some of the players used ridiculous excuses to resist his appointment, and blamed poor performances on it. Rio Ferdinand saying he lost the dressing room because he stopped fish and chips on a Friday afternoon, being a classic example.

IMO Moyes is a better manager than Dyche.

[Holmesc1]

Misnomer, on 12 January 2025 - 12:23 PM, said:

He was far from being negative at Preston; they were great to watch.

Sometimes, you have to adapt to the league, work to budget restraints, and employ a system that ensures survival and makes you difficult to beat.

I think some Everton fans (and West Ham, for that matter) think they are still in the glory days of the 80s. Both teams faltered once Moyes left. Man Utd were/are a basket case; he wasn't given long enough and some of the players used ridiculous excuses to resist his appointment, and blamed poor performances on it. Rio Ferdinand saying he lost the dressing room because he stopped fish and chips on a Friday afternoon, being a classic example.

IMO Moyes is a better manager than Dyche.

Man u are alot worse now than they were under moyes. I think him at man u was wrong place wrong time, had he come a few year later i think he would have done better. Mind he was negative to say the least at sunderland

[Mr Mercury]

Either Moyes is a miracle worker or the players simply wernt playing for Dyche. Everton 3-0 up at HT v Leicester. They?re flying since sacking Dyche.

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 01 February 2025 - 03:59 PM

[Blue roan lily]

Mr Mercury, on 01 February 2025 - 03:59 PM, said:

Either Moyes is a miracle worker or the players simply wernt playing for Dyche. Everton 3-0 up at HT v Leicester. They?re flying since sacking Dyche.

Probably a bit of both.

[Misnomer]

Misnomer, on 12 January 2025 - 12:23 PM, said:

He was far from being negative at Preston; they were great to watch.

Sometimes, you have to adapt to the league, work to budget restraints, and employ a system that ensures survival and makes you difficult to beat.

I think some Everton fans (and West Ham, for that matter) think they are still in the glory days of the 80s. Both teams faltered once Moyes left. Man Utd were/are a basket case; he wasn't given long enough and some of the players used ridiculous excuses to resist his appointment, and blamed poor performances on it. Rio Ferdinand saying he lost the dressing room because he stopped fish and chips on a Friday afternoon, being a classic example.

IMO Moyes is a better manager than Dyche.

He's proving my point.