[Siberian Spireite]

JonB, on 26 January 2025 - 11:59 AM, said:

Not sure how he only added one minute first half after three stoppages for players being down injured even if no treatment required. He then couldn?t wait to blow pretty much dead on 46 to stop us taking the corner.

We were our own worst enemies, faffing about at the throw in and both corner kicks. I recall it being some time after 46 when he eventually blew- surprised he even let us take the first one, we took so long over it.

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azul, on 26 January 2025 - 06:59 PM, said:

Pepple clearly did make the most of it as he got up and ran away as soon as the red card was brandished. Perhaps we are learning the dark arts at last. However that does not detract from the sending as it was a stone waller.

It was a sending off all day long. Right in front of us and we all had no doubt about it. The lad clearly went over the top as the highlights show. Pepple must have felt it on impact and was lucky not to sustain injury. The fact that he was able to get up and run it off is irrelevant. The foul itself was a clear sending off offence as it was dangerous play. Nothing to do with dark arts as he was not pretending he had been fouled because he had been fouled.

[clarevoyant.]

Siberian Spireite, on 26 January 2025 - 09:12 PM, said:

We were our own worst enemies, faffing about at the throw in and both corner kicks. I recall it being some time after 46 when he eventually blew- surprised he even let us take the first one, we took so long over it.

Yes we was "faffing about", but the main question as JB suggests is why was only 1 minute added?

Crap game management, again.

[Blue5]

HaslandBlue58, on 26 January 2025 - 09:12 PM, said:

Anyone got a clue why the ref. kept having a conversation with every player he passed in dead ball situations? Think he must have wasted over five minutes through whatever this was he was doing.

Well spotted and it's something which I picked up on.

The only record broken yesterday was the time it took between being awarded a free kick and a player given the OK to take it. Oh and not forgetting the farce where their player did his lap of honour after being sent off which proved to be an ideal break in play for them.

As for the 4 minutes that went up, what's the flipping point, it's just a p-take.

This post has been edited by Blue5: 26 January 2025 - 09:22 PM

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Blue5, on 26 January 2025 - 09:19 PM, said:

Well spotted and it's something which I picked up on.

The only record broken yesterday was the time it took between being awarded a free kick and a player given the OK to take it. Oh and not forgetting the farce where their player did his lap of honour after being sent off which proved to be an ideal break in play for them.

As for the 4 minutes that went up, what's the flipping point, it's just a p-take.

Free kicks take longer and longer, and if it involves the famous white line system we've got time to nip out for a pie. It's just one more aggravation that cheats the fans, but it's one of so many it hardly registers any more.

[60s 70s Spireite]

dim view, on 26 January 2025 - 08:47 PM, said:

It happened near us and right in front of Cooky. The sequence started with Macfadzean in possession. He passed it back to Thompson whilst pointing at Grimes and shouting for Thompson to pass it to Grimes. The good old triangle routine. Thompson couldn't do it in one movement 'cos the ball was on his wrong foot so he passed it back to Maccers who hadn't set himself to get it back. Good old fashioned cock up.

And the worst that had happened at that point is that we had conceded a throw-in in line with our penalty area- a position not known to be the most dangerous to defend. Look how the crowd cheers when ball and attacker are bundled over the touch line at such an area.
As you have pointed out, we are talking about our keeper and Fadzs pass only because of the appalling defending of the throw in and the man with all the time in the world to sling in the cross.

[Bluekent]

Siberian Spireite, on 26 January 2025 - 09:12 PM, said:

We were our own worst enemies, faffing about at the throw in and both corner kicks. I recall it being some time after 46 when he eventually blew- surprised he even let us take the first one, we took so long over it.

I?d like us to stop with the short corners tbh. That adds to the faffing and they always fizzle out anyway. I?ve said it many times , I?m not a gerrit forrad sort of guy but on corners just get it in the mixer with pace. Cause havoc.

[Osborne again]

Bluekent, on 27 January 2025 - 07:21 AM, said:

I?d like us to stop with the short corners tbh. That adds to the faffing and they always fizzle out anyway. I?ve said it many times , I?m not a gerrit forrad sort of guy but on corners just get it in the mixer with pace. Cause havoc.

I'm with you on the short corners. They're OK if the ball is passed sharpish and the ball's put in first touch, otherwise stick them in the box,at pace,floated,hard and low,insincere, and so on. Give Grimes the chance to get on the end of a cross and he usually makes the goalie work.

[hilly81]

Bluekent, on 27 January 2025 - 07:21 AM, said:

I?d like us to stop with the short corners tbh. That adds to the faffing and they always fizzle out anyway. I?ve said it many times , I?m not a gerrit forrad sort of guy but on corners just get it in the mixer with pace. Cause havoc.

Corners very rarely cause havoc. Interesting listen on here from Luke Williams when he was Notts manager: https://www.sportbib...040572-20231124

[Bald magician]

h again, on 26 January 2025 - 10:39 PM, said:

Free kicks take longer and longer, and if it involves the famous white line system we've got time to nip out for a pie. It's just one more aggravation that cheats the fans, but it's one of so many it hardly registers any more.

Yes I've noticed free kick around the box seem to take forever. Why is this? Seems to be an annoying trend filtering down from premier league

[calvin plummers socks]

hilly81, on 27 January 2025 - 08:11 AM, said:

Corners very rarely cause havoc. Interesting listen on here from Luke Williams when he was Notts manager: https://www.sportbib...040572-20231124

Loads of stats re. Corners.
In last 5 years in the top 4 divisions (I refuse now to call them leagues)! The % of goals from a corner is 1.3% (so a goal in say every 80 corners).

[Search & Destroy]

In the first half over by the dugouts it took over a minute to take a throw in

[Search & Destroy]

Having said all that we were 2 leagues apart from Vale last year and we are disappointed not too win

[azul]

Heard a debate on one of the televised matches about how long a player can hold on to an opposition players arm before it becomes a foul in the penalty area. Since when has that become a law? Probably since the authorities had to explain away a bad VAR decision.

[60s 70s Spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 27 January 2025 - 08:18 AM, said:

Loads of stats re. Corners.
In last 5 years in the top 4 divisions (I refuse now to call them leagues)! The % of goals from a corner is 1.3% (so a goal in say every 80 corners).

In which case, I would imagine our goals per corners is way above average - this season I have at least four - Naylor (or was one Grigg) and Grimes two each as I recall. I am sure someone can confirm any omissions.
One stat site has us having 122 corners this season to date.

[calvin plummers socks]

60s 70s Spireite, on 27 January 2025 - 08:56 AM, said:

In which case, I would imagine our goals per corners is way above average - this season I have at least four - Naylor (or was one Grigg) and Grimes two each as I recall. I am sure someone can confirm any omissions.
One stat site has us having 122 corners this season to date.

Excellent - seems like the analyst is doing his job well

[60s 70s Spireite]

azul, on 27 January 2025 - 08:53 AM, said:

Heard a debate on one of the televised matches about how long a player can hold on to an opposition players arm before it becomes a foul in the penalty area. Since when has that become a law? Probably since the authorities had to explain away a bad VAR decision.

And the non penalisation of the push in the back continues to confuse we supporters, There was an instance on Saturday where Dobra was sent yards forward of the ball he had full control of- play on.
Our players should experiment. When a defender is shepherding the ball out for a goal kick, give him a mighty shove. Bet that would be penalised.

[JonB]

azul, on 27 January 2025 - 08:53 AM, said:

Heard a debate on one of the televised matches about how long a player can hold on to an opposition players arm before it becomes a foul in the penalty area. Since when has that become a law? Probably since the authorities had to explain away a bad VAR decision.

Thats one of my bug bears when they say its not enough for a penalty to be given like it has to be more of a foul to be a penalty. A foul is a foul and if its the box it shouldnt need to be more of a foul to be given. Really annoys me when they wave things away that outside the box they would give without thinking. There is one doing the rounds on twitter from the Gateshead game on Saturday, bloke is wiped out and the ref is looking straight at it. Outside the box the official gives it without a second thought but he doesnt give the penalty, shocking decision.

[JonB]

60s 70s Spireite, on 27 January 2025 - 09:01 AM, said:

And the non penalisation of the push in the back continues to confuse we supporters, There was an instance on Saturday where Dobra was sent yards forward of the ball he had full control of- play on.
Our players should experiment. When a defender is shepherding the ball out for a goal kick, give him a mighty shove. Bet that would be penalised.

Another one that annoys me...and thats a someone who was a centre back in my illustrious lower division Sunday League career who used to do it!! If a player tried to shield a ball that was a good few feet away without playing it obstructing the opposition player from playing the ball it would be a foul without a second thought. However for some reason in those areas its deemed ok even when they just pretty much shove the opposition player out of the way not playing the ball. If the attacker was to shove the defender in the back off the pitch trying to get it all hell would probably break out and the attacker would likely get booked!

[Lincs Spireite]

azul, on 27 January 2025 - 08:53 AM, said:

Heard a debate on one of the televised matches about how long a player can hold on to an opposition players arm before it becomes a foul in the penalty area. Since when has that become a law? Probably since the authorities had to explain away a bad VAR decision.

Holding his arm ?.....Remember when Quigs got a bear hug regularly in the box and nothing given.