[azul]

FORZA AZZURRI, on 26 January 2025 - 01:08 PM, said:

We played 7 mins injury time

Only because there were stoppages in time added and when the board with 4 minutes went up the game was already stooped and the game didn't resume for 90 seconds of so.

The original 4 minutes was poor.

rodney, on 26 January 2025 - 01:14 PM, said:

Yes, for a red card he has to be out of sight. So no idea why the ref made he walk around the pitch. Total shambles

There's probably a rule hidden deep down in the rulebook, because he could confuse officials, offside decisions etc. Bit counter productive making him take the shortest route of the pitch in that case.

This post has been edited by azul: 26 January 2025 - 01:29 PM

[Osborne again]

I've just looked at the highlights several times and their goal stems from Thompson choosing the wrong pass. Instead of passing Macfadzean's back pass, from whence it came,thus putting our new central defender under pressure to fluke his second back pass,he should have passed the ball to Jamie Grimes, who was in space and could have used the ball to get us up the field. I know it's easy in hindsight, but hopefully he'll look around for a better out ball from now on.
I hope he doesn't lose his place due to the slow distribution either,as I'd like to see him play and learn from mistakes rather than sit on the bench and lose confidence. I know it's not really fair on Ryan Boot, because he never lets the team down when he plays.

[h again]

rodney, on 26 January 2025 - 01:14 PM, said:

Yes, for a red card he has to be out of sight. So no idea why the ref made he walk around the pitch. Total shambles

The guideline brought in was that player sent off should leave the pitch at the nearest point to the incident. That was to stop the player sauntering across the pitch and taking an age to go away. Another guideline ignored - some of them still dawdle about on the pitch, but the ref yesterday was sticking to the book. Once the player started strolling round he had no option but to wait until he went down the tunnel, otherwise he would have been interfering with play by the colour of his kit.
And none of that would matter if refs added a sensible amount of time. One day we'll get a stadium clock that is stopped by an official when play stops for a goal, sending off, subs, etc. And it'll be a proper eye=opener.

[Westbars Spireite]

h again, on 26 January 2025 - 05:02 PM, said:

The guideline brought in was that player sent off should leave the pitch at the nearest point to the incident. That was to stop the player sauntering across the pitch and taking an age to go away. Another guideline ignored - some of them still dawdle about on the pitch, but the ref yesterday was sticking to the book. Once the player started strolling round he had no option but to wait until he went down the tunnel, otherwise he would have been interfering with play by the colour of his kit.
And none of that would matter if refs added a sensible amount of time. One day we'll get a stadium clock that is stopped by an official when play stops for a goal, sending off, subs, etc. And it'll be a proper eye=opener.

That rule makes no sense given play can't restart until he's gone down the tunnel.

[Bonnyman]

Osborne again, on 26 January 2025 - 03:42 PM, said:

I've just looked at the highlights several times and their goal stems from Thompson choosing the wrong pass. Instead of passing Macfadzean's back pass, from whence it came,thus putting our new central defender under pressure to fluke his second back pass,he should have passed the ball to Jamie Grimes, who was in space and could have used the ball to get us up the field. I know it's easy in hindsight, but hopefully he'll look around for a better out ball from now on.
I hope he doesn't lose his place due to the slow distribution either,as I'd like to see him play and learn from mistakes rather than sit on the bench and lose confidence. I know it's not really fair on Ryan Boot, because he never lets the team down when he plays.

He has only got one good foot, no team will pick him up if he can?t kick a ball with his right, if put boot in goal every time

[clarevoyant.]

Westbars Spireite, on 26 January 2025 - 05:40 PM, said:

That rule makes no sense given play can't restart until he's gone down the tunnel.

You can guarantee all players will be conditioned to take as long as possible to leave the arena so to give time for their team to reset.

The answer is add the f.in time on, but the question is why don't they? The are not thick, assessors must realise.

Refering to the thread re atmosphere, if for example a correct 10 minutes is put on the board this gives the crowd and the team who are chasing the game a lift while it deflates the team doing the time wasting.

As Cookie is heard to say on many occasions to the 4th offical " Do your job"

[clarevoyant.]

Just had a look at the Vale forum, the majority appear to think Pepple made a meal of the sending off foul, but you do have to doubt their credibility of judgement when you consider they spent the rest of the game berating Shecks for the incident
Ermm.

Oh and surprisingly they don't rate Dobras alleged antics. In which case I'll raise them one of the biggest sh..houses to enter a football pitch, Brian Horton, he didn't attempt to get folk sent off, but carried off.

This post has been edited by clarevoyant.: 26 January 2025 - 06:51 PM

[moondog]

h again, on 26 January 2025 - 05:02 PM, said:

The guideline brought in was that player sent off should leave the pitch at the nearest point to the incident. That was to stop the player sauntering across the pitch and taking an age to go away. Another guideline ignored - some of them still dawdle about on the pitch, but the ref yesterday was sticking to the book. Once the player started strolling round he had no option but to wait until he went down the tunnel, otherwise he would have been interfering with play by the colour of his kit.
And none of that would matter if refs added a sensible amount of time. One day we'll get a stadium clock that is stopped by an official when play stops for a goal, sending off, subs, etc. And it'll be a proper eye=opener.

I think that relates to substitutions only, not seen happen with a sending off anywhere before

[azul]

clarevoyant., on 26 January 2025 - 06:49 PM, said:

Just had a look at the Vale forum, the majority appear to think Pepple made a meal of the sending off foul, but you do have to doubt their credibility of judgement when you consider they spent the rest of the game berating Shecks for the incident
Ermm.

Oh and surprisingly they don't rate Dobras alleged antics. In which case I'll raise them one of the biggest sh..houses to enter a football pitch, Brian Horton, he didn't attempt to get folk sent off, but carried off.

Pepple clearly did make the most of it as he got up and ran away as soon as the red card was brandished. Perhaps we are learning the dark arts at last. However that does not detract from the sending as it was a stone waller.

[clarevoyant.]

moondog, on 26 January 2025 - 06:52 PM, said:

I think that relates to substitutions only, not seen happen with a sending off anywhere before

I think the player took it upon himself while the ref was distracted by the players team mates and by the time the ref realised the player was by the corner flag and the ref didn't fancy chasing him in front of the Vale fans. Crap game management.
Yes that rule applies to subs as when he jogged at the side of one of theirs too speed up his departur.

[spireitetoo]

azul, on 26 January 2025 - 06:59 PM, said:

Pepple clearly did make the most of it as he got up and ran away as soon as the red card was brandished. Perhaps we are learning the dark arts at last. However that does not detract from the sending as it was a stone waller.

He learnt that whilst at Bromley

[calvin plummers socks]

spireitetoo, on 26 January 2025 - 07:22 PM, said:

He learnt that whilst at Bromley

How do you know this for certain?

[warfey is a spireite]

They've all learnt it bumbaclatts

[danblue]

Osborne again, on 26 January 2025 - 03:42 PM, said:

I've just looked at the highlights several times and their goal stems from Thompson choosing the wrong pass. Instead of passing Macfadzean's back pass, from whence it came,thus putting our new central defender under pressure to fluke his second back pass,he should have passed the ball to Jamie Grimes, who was in space and could have used the ball to get us up the field. I know it's easy in hindsight, but hopefully he'll look around for a better out ball from now on.
I hope he doesn't lose his place due to the slow distribution either,as I'd like to see him play and learn from mistakes rather than sit on the bench and lose confidence. I know it's not really fair on Ryan Boot, because he never lets the team down when he plays.

The sequence of event does start with Thompson's pass to McFadzean (probably to instruction of playing it out from the back when you can) but TBH, I was pointing the finger at McFadzean for the horrendous back pass to Thompson's wrong side leading to X, Y and G(oal).
But still, we had ample time to close down and stop the cross let alone to defend it correctly

[calvin plummers socks]

warfey is a spireite, on 26 January 2025 - 07:53 PM, said:

They've all learnt it bumbaclatts

Explain what this means?

[Mr Mercury]

danblue, on 26 January 2025 - 07:55 PM, said:

The sequence of event does start with Thompson's pass to McFadzean (probably to instruction of playing it out from the back when you can) but TBH, I was pointing the finger at McFadzean for the horrendous back pass to Thompson's wrong side leading to X, Y and G(oal).
But still, we had ample time to close down and stop the cross let alone to defend it correctly

I never think chopping and changing keepers is a good idea but I?d be tempted to give Boot a run now.
Tyrer is a big big miss.

[dim view]

danblue, on 26 January 2025 - 07:55 PM, said:

The sequence of event does start with Thompson's pass to McFadzean (probably to instruction of playing it out from the back when you can) but TBH.....

It happened near us and right in front of Cooky. The sequence started with Macfadzean in possession. He passed it back to Thompson whilst pointing at Grimes and shouting for Thompson to pass it to Grimes. The good old triangle routine. Thompson couldn't do it in one movement 'cos the ball was on his wrong foot so he passed it back to Maccers who hadn't set himself to get it back. Good old fashioned cock up.

[BlueRodneyFern]

Osborne again, on 26 January 2025 - 03:42 PM, said:

I've just looked at the highlights several times and their goal stems from Thompson choosing the wrong pass. Instead of passing Macfadzean's back pass, from whence it came,thus putting our new central defender under pressure to fluke his second back pass,he should have passed the ball to Jamie Grimes, who was in space and could have used the ball to get us up the field. I know it's easy in hindsight, but hopefully he'll look around for a better out ball from now on.
I hope he doesn't lose his place due to the slow distribution either,as I'd like to see him play and learn from mistakes rather than sit on the bench and lose confidence. I know it's not really fair on Ryan Boot, because he never lets the team down when he plays.

Kyle clearly points to Thompson to kick the ball long out to Colclough and Co awaiting on the wings but he chose to knock it back to Kyle again

[Brookie]

Osborne again said:

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I've just looked at the highlights several times and their goal stems from Thompson choosing the wrong pass. Instead of passing Macfadzean's back pass, from whence it came,thus putting our new central defender under pressure to fluke his second back pass,he should have passed the ball to Jamie Grimes, who was in space and could have used the ball to get us up the field. I know it's easy in hindsight, but hopefully he'll look around for a better out ball from now on.
I hope he doesn't lose his place due to the slow distribution either,as I'd like to see him play and learn from mistakes rather than sit on the bench and lose confidence. I know it's not really fair on Ryan Boot, because he never lets the team down when he plays.

Macfadzean clearly pointed for Thompson to pass to Grimes

[HaslandBlue58]

Anyone got a clue why the ref. kept having a conversation with every player he passed in dead ball situations? Think he must have wasted over five minutes through whatever this was he was doing.
Once again I noticed the two armed push in the back was OK,yet shoulder to shoulder was deemed a foul, continues to infuriate me.Suprised there has not been a serious neck/back injury with this type of conduct.