[Painted Wagon]

Search & Destroy, on 20 December 2024 - 11:15 PM, said:

Marine Le Pen

Once again, Islamist barbarity is sowing terror in the heart of Europe. This act of war against a symbol of our civilisation is heartbreaking.

Our thoughts this evening are with the victims and families of this carnage perpetrated in the middle of the Christmas market in Magdeburg, Germany.

We don?t know yet if this man was connected to any organisation or group but the mind truly boggles when you consider that a 50 year old doctor who has no doubt treated people, cared for people maybe even saved lives can choose to do this.

[Mr Mercury]

Painted Wagon, on 21 December 2024 - 08:22 AM, said:

We don?t know yet if this man was connected to any organisation or group but the mind truly boggles when you consider that a 50 year old doctor who has no doubt treated people, cared for people maybe even saved lives can choose to do this.

According to Reuters (Sky News) the Saudis had warned the German authorities about him, and he?d got form for posting extremist view on his personal X account.

[Bonnyman]

Mr Mercury, on 21 December 2024 - 08:37 AM, said:

According to Reuters (Sky News) the Saudis had warned the German authorities about him, and he?d got form for posting extremist view on his personal X account.

Nothing to see here

[frearsghost]

My heart goes out to the parents who lost their seven year old little girl, murdered in cold blood last night. The thought of waking up this morning and that's your first thought must be unbearable.

[Mr Mercury]

frearsghost, on 21 December 2024 - 09:31 AM, said:

My heart goes out to the parents who lost their seven year old little girl, murdered in cold blood last night. The thought of waking up this morning and that's your first thought must be unbearable.

Sadly there could be more deaths to add to the two so far.
Awful

[Search & Destroy]

So now we know for sure why we had the cryptic messages from the police around Christmas markets

Armed police and diversity bollards now the norm across Western Europe

[dart in the crossbar]

Search & Destroy, on 19 December 2024 - 10:00 PM, said:

Here?s a few tasty bits in Sharia law on the treatment of women.

1.Inheritance: Women inherit half the amount men receive.

2.Marriage: Women often require the consent of a male guardian to marry, while men do not.

3.Divorce: Men can initiate a divorce (talaq) by verbal declaration, but women face significant legal and social barriers to obtain one.

4.Child Custody: After a certain age (often 7 for boys, 9 for girls), custody typically defaults to the father, regardless of the mother?s circumstances.

5.Testimony in Court: A woman?s testimony is often considered worth half that of a man?s, requiring two female witnesses to equal one male.

6.Domestic Violence: Some interpretations of Sharia permit ?disciplinary? physical punishment of wives by their husbands.

7.Polygamy: Men are allowed up to four wives, but women cannot have more than one husband.

8.Rape Victims: In some cases, a woman must produce four male witnesses to prove a rape, or she risks being charged with adultery.

9.Dress Code: Strict dress codes are imposed on women, often under penalty of law, with little or no equivalent restrictions for men.

10.Freedom of Movement: In some interpretations, women cannot travel without a male guardian or their husband?s permission.

11.Work and Education: Women may face restrictions on working or attending school, depending on the interpretation and enforcement of Sharia.

This medieval law does NOT belong in Britain.






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Source: Government response to petition to ban Sharia 'law' in 2014.

'Sharia 'law' has no jurisdiction in England and Wales and the Government has no intention to change this position.

Sharia principles are the code of personal religious law governing the conduct of Muslims. They can extend into all aspects of people's lives, but provided an activity prescribed by Sharia principles does not contravene the law of England and Wales, there is nothing that prevents people living by Sharia principles.

Britain has a proud tradition of religious tolerance, within the law. We expect individuals and groups to exercise their religious beliefs in a courteous and considerate manner and to respect the rights of others. Freedom of expression is the hallmark of a healthy society; however, mutual concern and respect for our fellow citizens is essential if we want our neighbourhoods to be places where everyone can play their part and feel that they belong.

There are a number of Sharia councils in England and Wales which help Muslim communities resolve civil and family disputes, by making recommendations, which they hope the parties will abide by. They are not part of the court system in this country and have no means of enforcing their decisions. If any of the decisions or recommendations they make are contrary to national law (including the Equality Act 2010)then national law prevails. This is no different to any other council or tribunal - whether or not based on Sharia principles.

There can never be reliance on the fact that an act that is permitted under Sharia principles is a justification for committing what is, under the law of this country, a criminal act or indeed a breach of civil law such as the Equality Act 2010. Muslim women, for example, can find legal recourse in the legislation that has already been enacted, for example forced marriage issues, regardless of what is stated within Sharia principles.

This Government will challenge behaviours and views which run counter to our shared values. Promoting fairness in society is one of the Coalition Government's core commitments. This is everyone's responsibility; it is only together we are able to develop a stronger and more cohesive society.

There can be no question of there being a parallel system of law in this country.
'

[dart in the crossbar]

Search & Destroy, on 19 December 2024 - 10:00 PM, said:

Here?s a few tasty bits in Sharia law on the treatment of women.

1.Inheritance: Women inherit half the amount men receive.

2.Marriage: Women often require the consent of a male guardian to marry, while men do not.

3.Divorce: Men can initiate a divorce (talaq) by verbal declaration, but women face significant legal and social barriers to obtain one.

4.Child Custody: After a certain age (often 7 for boys, 9 for girls), custody typically defaults to the father, regardless of the mother?s circumstances.

5.Testimony in Court: A woman?s testimony is often considered worth half that of a man?s, requiring two female witnesses to equal one male.

6.Domestic Violence: Some interpretations of Sharia permit ?disciplinary? physical punishment of wives by their husbands.

7.Polygamy: Men are allowed up to four wives, but women cannot have more than one husband.

8.Rape Victims: In some cases, a woman must produce four male witnesses to prove a rape, or she risks being charged with adultery.

9.Dress Code: Strict dress codes are imposed on women, often under penalty of law, with little or no equivalent restrictions for men.

10.Freedom of Movement: In some interpretations, women cannot travel without a male guardian or their husband?s permission.

11.Work and Education: Women may face restrictions on working or attending school, depending on the interpretation and enforcement of Sharia.

This medieval law does NOT belong in Britain.






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Source : Independent review 2018

Sharia councils have no legal status and no legal binding authority under civil law. Whilst sharia
is a source of guidance for many Muslims, sharia councils have no legal jurisdiction in England
and Wales. Thus if any decisions or recommendations are made by a sharia council that
are inconsistent with domestic law (including equality policies such as the Equality Act 2010)
domestic law will prevail. Sharia councils will be acting illegally should they seek to exclude
domestic law. Although they claim no binding legal authority, they do in fact act in a decisionmaking capacity when dealing with Islamic divorce.

There are recommendations for improvements in the report etc

Just on case there's an interest in finding out more about it beyond the dog whistle stuff

[Search & Destroy]

dart in the crossbar, on 21 December 2024 - 10:43 AM, said:

Source : Independent review 2018

Sharia councils have no legal status and no legal binding authority under civil law. Whilst sharia
is a source of guidance for many Muslims, sharia councils have no legal jurisdiction in England
and Wales. Thus if any decisions or recommendations are made by a sharia council that
are inconsistent with domestic law (including equality policies such as the Equality Act 2010)
domestic law will prevail. Sharia councils will be acting illegally should they seek to exclude
domestic law. Although they claim no binding legal authority, they do in fact act in a decisionmaking capacity when dealing with Islamic divorce.

There are recommendations for improvements in the report etc

Just on case there's an interest in finding out more about it beyond the dog whistle stuff

So Sharia is illegal if it excludes domestic law, who?s monitoring this do you reckon?

So an Islamic woman is free to challenge Sharia law then?

Maybe if she wants to end up in pieces in a suitcase in the Thames

It?s abhorrent and has no place in the UK, none at all and Muslims should follow domestic UK laws

Anyway the article is pointing out the UK is now Europes capital of Sharia law

Dog whistling, give me strength

This post has been edited by Search & Destroy: 21 December 2024 - 11:15 AM

[clarevoyant.]

Perhaps they should declare themselves 'travellers' then any law doesn't seem to apply.

[dart in the crossbar]

Search & Destroy, on 21 December 2024 - 11:12 AM, said:

So Sharia is illegal if it excludes domestic law, who?s monitoring this do you reckon?

So an Islamic woman is free to challenge Sharia law then?

Maybe if she wants to end up in pieces in a suitcase in the Thames

It?s abhorrent and has no place in the UK, none at all and Muslims should follow domestic UK laws

Anyway the article is pointing out the UK is now Europes capital of Sharia law

Dog whistling, give me strength

What was the source for your list?

Both source-referenced articles clearly state that everyone, including those Muslims who utilise the Sharia councils, (also those Jews who utilise Beth Din and those Catholics who utilise the Catholic Canon and other groups who use such approaches) are required to follow UK law. Dog whistling aside, none of which ought to be a surprise.

This post has been edited by dart in the crossbar: 22 December 2024 - 09:39 AM

[Bonnyman]

dart in the crossbar, on 22 December 2024 - 09:38 AM, said:

What was the source for your list?

Both source-referenced articles clearly state that everyone, including those Muslims who utilise the Sharia councils, (also those Jews who utilise Beth Din and those Catholics who utilise the Catholic Canon and other groups who use such approaches) are required to follow UK law. Dog whistling aside, none of which ought to be a surprise.

Amazing how MSM have said the terrorist was right wing, that little loony Owen Jones salivating over it , his tiny brain so small he could not compute how the terrotist had added fake right wing posts to deflect his true intentions, Jones was more happy to think he was right wing than to actually have any concerns for the atrocity of the situation and the families involved, weasel

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

If he was a 'right wing' terrorist he wouldn't have targeted a xmas market. If he was a 'right wing' terrorist he would have driven into the crowds outside a mosque.

The MSM are literally saying the problem was 'a gap in the bollards'. You couldn't make it up, although they're happy to have a go.

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

Goku, on 20 December 2024 - 11:07 PM, said:

I thought they?d say it was excessive force, but they haven?t and I?m fine with that. I can accept decisions which go against my opinion without claiming there are two tiers and suchlike

If there'd have been equality before the law they'd have been thrown in front of the press, then tried and jailed (for a disproportionate amount of time in relation to the crime) within a matter of days.

There isn't, and they weren't.

Let's see how the sentence for breaking a female officers nose compares to, say... shouting racist abuse at a police dog, or posting nasty things on facebook then have the 'two-tier' debate.

[Painted Wagon]

Not a funny topic but I admit laughing at the fella who copped a brick on the bonce and his cream crackers whilst goading the police during the riots, he?s been jailed today for over 2 years. He looks a very old 40 too.

[Goku]

Painted Wagon, on 23 December 2024 - 08:20 PM, said:

Not a funny topic but I admit laughing at the fella who copped a brick on the bonce and his cream crackers whilst goading the police during the riots, he?s been jailed today for over 2 years. He looks a very old 40 too.

Absolute theatre, one of my fave videos of the year

[Wooden Spoon]

Goku, on 23 December 2024 - 08:21 PM, said:

Absolute theatre, one of my fave videos of the year

5 now dead in Germany


Stabbings in Oslo 3 victims


Bomb goes off in Stockholm

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

2 years and 6 months for getting hit in the nards by a brick whilst dancing around like a *******.

I reckon if we're talking equivalence in 'one tier' terms, the geezer who broke that woman coppers nose has got to be looking at around 6-8?

[Bonnyman]

The sentencing of the Manchester criminals is as laughable as MSM trying to convince people the German market killer was right wing with anti Muslim feelings.

[Burgerman]

Snowflake McBedwetter, on 22 December 2024 - 05:04 PM, said:

If he was a 'right wing' terrorist he wouldn't have targeted a xmas market. If he was a 'right wing' terrorist he would have driven into the crowds outside a mosque.

The MSM are literally saying the problem was 'a gap in the bollards'. You couldn't make it up, although they're happy to have a go.

According to the German Interior Minister Nancy Faeser: "The only thing we can say with certainty is that the perpetrator was clearly Islamophobic" she went on to say... ?he acted like an Islamist terrorist although ideologically he is clearly an enemy of Islam?.

According to German Authorities, he shared right wing narratives on social media, the man is a nut job.

1.07% of people killed on 9/11 were Muslim. I don't think Islamic terrorists care who they kill, Muslim or non Muslim.