[Zigsuk]

Inspired by the thread about lack of injuries in the past does anyone have any idea how many players were used in the 1970 championship winning season.? I could pretty much name the starting 11 and maybe the occasional 2-3 replacements (one substitute in those days of course) so I would guess maybe 14-15 players used all season.i may be wrong but I would think no more than 16 at the most. They use that many in one game now. Certainly most of the squad would play over 40 league games.

[hilly81]

Zigsuk, on 05 December 2024 - 11:08 AM, said:

Inspired by the thread about lack of injuries in the past does anyone have any idea how many players were used in the 1970 championship winning season.? I could pretty much name the starting 11 and maybe the occasional 2-3 replacements (one substitute in those days of course) so I would guess maybe 14-15 players used all season.i may be wrong but I would think no more than 16 at the most. They use that many in one game now. Certainly most of the squad would play over 40 league games.

https://docs.google....#gid=1607360834

[Zigsuk]

hilly81, on 05 December 2024 - 11:15 AM, said:

https://docs.google....#gid=1607360834

Thanks. Slightly more than I thought but seeing as 4 of them barely played it is about 16. One of those 4 Michael Walker I don?t remember at all, although I do remember all the other fringe players names but nothing about them.
Was a bit surprised the great Albert Holmes played under 40 but still appeared in the majority of games and most of the first choice team made 35+ appearances.

[Zigsuk]

Just noticed this was the season following the 1970! title win so maybe fewer players were used the previous season as it seems each year incrementally more players are used.

[philtooleycfss]

19 used
Humphreys
Stevenson
Bell
Finnigan
Hickton
Holmes
Lumsden
Moyes
Phelan
Archer
Fenoughty
Moore
Pugh
Bishop
Foley
Martin
Moss
Randall
Wright

[Benno Spire]

Zigsuk, on 05 December 2024 - 11:08 AM, said:

Inspired by the thread about lack of injuries in the past does anyone have any idea how many players were used in the 1970 championship winning season.? I could pretty much name the starting 11 and maybe the occasional 2-3 replacements (one substitute in those days of course) so I would guess maybe 14-15 players used all season.i may be wrong but I would think no more than 16 at the most. They use that many in one game now. Certainly most of the squad would play over 40 league games.

The sky is blue website is an amazing resource of statistical information on Chesterfield

[Zigsuk]

Just look at the attendances. Five figures frequently. And we think they are good today. Of course as with this season it was follwing a promotion the previous campaign.

[Zigsuk]

philtooleycfss, on 05 December 2024 - 11:45 AM, said:

19 used
Humphreys
Stevenson
Bell
Finnigan
Hickton
Holmes
Lumsden
Moyes
Phelan
Archer
Fenoughty
Moore
Pugh
Bishop
Foley
Martin
Moss
Randall
Wright

Thanks for this Phil.

I believe the regular starting 11 with few injuries was: Stevenson, Holmes, Bell, Phelan, Lumsden later replaced by Hickton, Fenoughty, Archer, Moore, Randall, Moss, Pugh. I belive Martin made a number of appearances too on the left hand side. The rest would have been pretty much bit part players.

[Osborne again]

Zigsuk, on 05 December 2024 - 01:04 PM, said:

Thanks for this Phil.

I believe the regular starting 11 with few injuries was: Stevenson, Holmes, Bell, Phelan, Lumsden later replaced by Hickton, Fenoughty, Archer, Moore, Randall, Moss, Pugh. I belive Martin made a number of appearances too on the left hand side. The rest would have been pretty much bit part players.

That was some team. Alan Stevenson was better than most keepers in the Premiership now. Albert Holmes was probably the best full back I've seen play for Town, and Tom Fenoughty and Dan Archer were great players.I may as well say what I did in the first place, that was some team.

[Zigsuk]

Osborne again, on 05 December 2024 - 03:20 PM, said:

That was some team. Alan Stevenson was better than most keepers in the Premiership now. Albert Holmes was probably the best full back I've seen play for Town, and Tom Fenoughty and Dan Archer were great players.I may as well say what I did in the first place, that was some team.

Yes I was 11/12 at the time so was watching from that perespective, but I recall some people criticising Archer who to my young self seemed an excellent player. As you say Stevo, Albert Holmes and Fenoughty were all high class players. I have just looked at Fenoughty's playing stats and was surprised to see he didn't make more appearances for Sheff Utd.
Of course we also had the highly effective strike partnership of Randall and Moss who really gelled together. As I have said elsewhere for all his legendary status and local affection it has to be admitted Ernie was a limited player at higher levels but incredibly effective in the fourth tier as his four promotions showed. He was also of course a clean and honest performer. We weren't to know at the time that this would be only the first of his three spells at the club, all of them successful.

[Osborne again]

Zigsuk, on 05 December 2024 - 05:07 PM, said:

Yes I was 11/12 at the time so was watching from that perespective, but I recall some people criticising Archer who to my young self seemed an excellent player. As you say Stevo, Albert Holmes and Fenoughty were all high class players. I have just looked at Fenoughty's playing stats and was surprised to see he didn't make more appearances for Sheff Utd.
Of course we also had the highly effective strike partnership of Randall and Moss who really gelled together. As I have said elsewhere for all his legendary status and local affection it has to be admitted Ernie was a limited player at higher levels but incredibly effective in the fourth tier as his four promotions showed. He was also of course a clean and honest performer. We weren't to know at the time that this would be only the first of his three spells at the club, all of them successful.

Ernie, as you say,was a clean player and a real gentleman. With Kevin Randall they probably formed one of the best partnerships in the old 4th division. I think Jamie Grimes has been watching footage of Ernie's headed goals, no bad thing that. The building blocks were solid in that team, and the manager was the mortar. I used to stand with my brothers near to the half way line with a bloke who said he played for Derby County in the fifties, and he really rated Albert Holmes to such an extent that he'd recommend him to his old club, thank goodness they didn't listen.

[60s 70s Spireite]

Talking of the 69-70 season, we scored a lot of goals from corners - especially using the near post nod on routine. Pertinent now, as there is a lot of discussion around Arsenal?s goals from corners- 22 from the beginning of 23-24 season.

I wonder if Stuart Basson has the number in his archives? I think it was about 12 or 13. I recall the Green Un offered fans the chance to put a question to Jimmy McGuigan in the post close season, Mine was could we continue to rely on the nest post corner routine. Cant recall the answer. But we did for a while, including Ernie?s spectacular overhead goal at Millmoor the following season.

[ronpowellsbutler]

Osborne again, on 05 December 2024 - 03:20 PM, said:

That was some team. Alan Stevenson was better than most keepers in the Premiership now. Albert Holmes was probably the best full back I've seen play for Town, and Tom Fenoughty and Dan Archer were great players.I may as well say what I did in the first place, that was some team.

Dan Archer was a tasty batsman as well !

[clarevoyant.]

ronpowellsbutler, on 05 December 2024 - 09:28 PM, said:

Dan Archer was a tasty batsman as well !

Wasn't his home ground were the SMH is now. When he played for the Racecourse Taveners.

He didn't look it but he was exceptionally quick, especially after the game when Randall, Pugh and himself would make the bar in the Saltergate Club in no time.

[warfey is a spireite]

60s 70s Spireite, on 05 December 2024 - 09:04 PM, said:

Talking of the 69-70 season, we scored a lot of goals from corners - especially using the near post nod on routine. Pertinent now, as there is a lot of discussion around Arsenal?s goals from corners- 22 from the beginning of 23-24 season.

I wonder if Stuart Basson has the number in his archives? I think it was about 12 or 13. I recall the Green Un offered fans the chance to put a question to Jimmy McGuigan in the post close season, Mine was could we continue to rely on the nest post corner routine. Cant recall the answer. But we did for a while, including Ernie?s spectacular overhead goal at Millmoor the following season.

Yes remember those well did home and away all only 15 ISH that near post flick got us loads of goals

[Osborne again]

ronpowellsbutler, on 05 December 2024 - 09:28 PM, said:

Dan Archer was a tasty batsman as well !

I didn't know that mate. This is what I like about Bob's board mate, you learn stuff like this. Who did he play cricket for?

[clarevoyant.]

Osborne again, on 06 December 2024 - 04:10 AM, said:

I didn't know that mate. This is what I like about Bob's board mate, you learn stuff like this. Who did he play cricket for?

Go back 2 posts

Oh, Gerry Clarke and Kev Randall also played for them.

This post has been edited by clarevoyant.: 06 December 2024 - 07:28 AM

[Osborne again]

clarevoyant., on 06 December 2024 - 07:00 AM, said:

Go back 2 posts

Oh, Gerry Clarke and Kev Randall also played for them.

Cheers got it mate thanks. Kevin Randall wasn't a bad bowls player either,on the flat greens, anyway. He used to play across from the library.

[whittman]

60s 70s Spireite, on 05 December 2024 - 09:04 PM, said:

Talking of the 69-70 season, we scored a lot of goals from corners - especially using the near post nod on routine. Pertinent now, as there is a lot of discussion around Arsenal?s goals from corners- 22 from the beginning of 23-24 season.

I wonder if Stuart Basson has the number in his archives? I think it was about 12 or 13. I recall the Green Un offered fans the chance to put a question to Jimmy McGuigan in the post close season, Mine was could we continue to rely on the nest post corner routine. Cant recall the answer. But we did for a while, including Ernie?s spectacular overhead goal at Millmoor the following season.

i remember reading in the Sheffield star that Barnsley were coming to saltergate and they knew how to stop the
Archer/fenoughty corner routine from working

As it was you could see that they put 2 players in front of Tom Fenoughty to try and stop him flicking the ball over to the far post

only problem for Barnsley was that one of those 2 players managed to flick the ball on himself at the Kop end and we still scored lol

I think we won the match 4-2 from memory

[whittman]

Osborne again, on 06 December 2024 - 04:10 AM, said:

I didn't know that mate. This is what I like about Bob's board mate, you learn stuff like this. Who did he play cricket for?

he played for the Taverners at cricket I think