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#1 User is offline   Bkauns19 

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Posted 25 November 2024 - 06:30 PM

Just seen a stat we've scored the most goals via substitutions in the EFL, always see comments that Cookie leaves it too late or not making the right subs.

Given it's our first year back, top scorers in the league I think we're doing a decent job and that late win on Sat gives us a good platform going into the Christmas period where we could be top 3 come the new year. COYB
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Posted 25 November 2024 - 06:42 PM

Was about to post about the same, these are the figures:-

Most goals via substitutes (top 4 tiers; 2024/25):

9⚽️: 💥CHESTERFIELD*💥:
7⚽️: Blackburn, Leeds, Charlton, Wycombe, Salford, Walsall
6⚽️: Bolton

* top scorers in League Two with 30 goals.
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Posted 25 November 2024 - 07:09 PM

Cook and his #BloatedBackroomStaff making #RoboticSubs
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Posted 25 November 2024 - 07:50 PM

No plan B apparently 🤔
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Posted 26 November 2024 - 07:07 AM

Sadly some would not be happy even if we were clear at the top with a massive point advantage
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Posted 26 November 2024 - 12:29 PM

View PostBrookie, on 26 November 2024 - 07:07 AM, said:

Sadly some would not be happy even if we were clear at the top with a massive point advantage

They would be so vocal though
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Posted 26 November 2024 - 12:32 PM

View PostBrookie, on 26 November 2024 - 07:07 AM, said:

Sadly some would not be happy even if we were clear at the top with a massive point advantage



I think they would
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Posted 26 November 2024 - 12:43 PM

View PostBald magician, on 25 November 2024 - 07:50 PM, said:

No plan B apparently 🤔


That?s what always baffles me, all the no plan b talk

Surely making subs is plan b, and Cook is not adverse to chucking loads of attacking options on when chasing games, didn?t we have one game at home where we ended up with only Gordon on the pitch as a recognised defended?

People love a bit of lazy criticism, so not having a massive CF and refusing to punt it long is labelled as a lack of a plan b which is nonsense
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Posted 26 November 2024 - 01:08 PM

View PostCartman, on 26 November 2024 - 12:43 PM, said:

That?s what always baffles me, all the no plan b talk

Surely making subs is plan b, and Cook is not adverse to chucking loads of attacking options on when chasing games, didn?t we have one game at home where we ended up with only Gordon on the pitch as a recognised defended?

People love a bit of lazy criticism, so not having a massive CF and refusing to punt it long is labelled as a lack of a plan b which is nonsense


I think it's plan A++
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Posted 26 November 2024 - 01:29 PM

View PostBrookie, on 26 November 2024 - 07:07 AM, said:

Sadly some would not be happy even if we were clear at the top with a massive point advantage

Correct as proven by some last season
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Posted 26 November 2024 - 01:54 PM

View PostCartman, on 26 November 2024 - 12:43 PM, said:

That?s what always baffles me, all the no plan b talk

Surely making subs is plan b, and Cook is not adverse to chucking loads of attacking options on when chasing games, didn?t we have one game at home where we ended up with only Gordon on the pitch as a recognised defended?

People love a bit of lazy criticism, so not having a massive CF and refusing to punt it long is labelled as a lack of a plan b which is nonsense


Plan B tends to be doing plan A quicker with different players up top.
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Posted 26 November 2024 - 02:05 PM

View PostWestbars Spireite, on 26 November 2024 - 01:54 PM, said:

Plan B tends to be doing plan A quicker with different players up top.

I'm not sure what the formation was but Naylor spent an awful long time in their penalty area after the subs.
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Posted 26 November 2024 - 03:44 PM

How many of the nine are winning goals out of interest ?
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Posted 26 November 2024 - 04:14 PM

View Postpeakblue, on 26 November 2024 - 03:44 PM, said:

How many of the nine are winning goals out of interest ?

I suppose the question is what is meant by wining goal. We have won by the odd goal twice in the league, and Saturday was the only time a sub scored the winning goal.
Subs have scored in a lot of our clear margin wins.
I wonder where we stand in points lost from a drawing or winning position?

This post has been edited by 60s 70s Spireite: 26 November 2024 - 04:56 PM

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Posted 26 November 2024 - 04:17 PM

View Postpeakblue, on 26 November 2024 - 03:44 PM, said:

How many of the nine are winning goals out of interest ?

These are the 10 if you include Oldakers goal in 1-1 draw v Man City U21s which was an equaliser i think and led to us winning on Pens and eventually topping the group. Main decisive ones in my eyes are the three at Morecambe, two by Grigg to seal the win at Newport and the winner on Saturday.

Oldaker v Man City U21 to earn draw then think we won on pens.
Berry v Donny to make it 3-0 in last minute
Grigg v Notts County to make it 2-1 but we ended up with a point
Grigg x 2 v Newport to seal victory
Berry, Dobra and Grimes in the 5-2 win at Morecambe
Berry in 2-1 defeat at Harrogate
Grimes in last min v Barrow
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Posted 26 November 2024 - 04:44 PM

For most teams plan B tends to be throw on a tall striker with 10 minutes to go and then get as many crosses into the box as possible. Given that we don't have a tall striker to throw on at the moment Grimes is currently plan B by default.
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Posted 26 November 2024 - 05:46 PM

View PostCartman, on 26 November 2024 - 12:43 PM, said:

That?s what always baffles me, all the no plan b talk

Surely making subs is plan b, and Cook is not adverse to chucking loads of attacking options on when chasing games, didn?t we have one game at home where we ended up with only Gordon on the pitch as a recognised defended?

People love a bit of lazy criticism, so not having a massive CF and refusing to punt it long is labelled as a lack of a plan b which is nonsense


It is an obvious valid point though.
God I hate this league.
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Posted 26 November 2024 - 07:47 PM

View PostCartman, on 26 November 2024 - 12:43 PM, said:

That?s what always baffles me, all the no plan b talk

Surely making subs is plan b, and Cook is not adverse to chucking loads of attacking options on when chasing games, didn?t we have one game at home where we ended up with only Gordon on the pitch as a recognised defended?

People love a bit of lazy criticism, so not having a massive CF and refusing to punt it long is labelled as a lack of a plan b which is nonsense

It didn't take me long realise that many posters on this board have no clue about football. the "not having a plan b" non conversation is the tip of the iceberg
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Posted 26 November 2024 - 08:14 PM

View PostBald magician, on 26 November 2024 - 07:47 PM, said:

It didn't take me long realise that many posters on this board have no clue about football. the "not having a plan b" non conversation is the tip of the iceberg

Love how a stat can justify folks opinions and discredit others. Here?s another one?. Up till Saturday in the league 1 win at home, 1 goal from subs and 4 leads thrown away!!
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Posted 26 November 2024 - 08:32 PM

View Postrodney, on 26 November 2024 - 08:14 PM, said:

Love how a stat can justify folks opinions and discredit others. Here?s another one?. Up till Saturday in the league 1 win at home, 1 goal from subs and 4 leads thrown away!!

So you haven't noticed, Mr Plonker, that all of those 'facts' were changed by us winning on Saturday!

This post has been edited by sophocles: 26 November 2024 - 08:32 PM

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