[Arnold Tabbs]

frearsghost, on 15 November 2024 - 12:02 PM, said:

So a woman who simply said. 'Go home you are devaluing property values' was arrested and spent 13 hours in police custody and made to do community service. You support that? Is this the kind of authoritarian society to choose to commend? Oh and by the way, the riot cause by these Romanians - this was the one where the 'bus was set ablaze and the police withdrew - has been described by the police as - I kid you not, 'a Romanian Vigil'. Amid their violence, Ms Wilcox is accused of upsetting them. No two tier policing there then. 

Of course I don't support somebody being arrested for a mild rebuke but I'm not naive enough to believe that the police arrested Ms Wilcox just for saying "go home. You are devaluing property."

What I do believe, though, is that there is much cherry picking of stories going on so that zealots can put forward conspiracy theories. There was a story in the paper the other day about a black man - a former policeman - being wrongly accused of shoplifting and banned from every Morrisons in the country. He was said to have behaved aggressively but CCT showed him simply trying to state his innocence.

No mention of that on this forum, but if I were trying to create a false narrative I'd be using this incident to imply that there is deliberate discrimination against black men in supermarkets.

Once again, for the benefit of anybody else determined not to grasp a point if it doesn't fit his or her prejudice. I point out that the Harehills rioters got longer sentences than anybody taking part in the trouble following the Southport murders. If there was really a two-tier anti-British conspiracy the Romanians would have been given less time in prison and the Rotherham and Middlesbrough hooligans more.

In other words, your conspiracy theory is not supported by any evidence here. So the Police released a badly-worded statement? Hardly the News Story if the Century, is it?

[Goku]

PontePete, on 14 November 2024 - 10:38 AM, said:

Ha ha, you jest, but I reckon there?s some truth in that. Take this clip for for example (you have listen to the guy ranting a bit as well) : https://x.com/jomick...zwVGbzYK-eAFNYA

Wonder which area of the medical profession he?s studying to be in, looks to me like it?s fertility. And this is him doing the practical module of his degree where he has to demonstrate how to give a jizz sample 🤔

Can't believe my reply to this got deleted btw, though I can guess which bell end reported me

Anyway cracking post by Arnold Tabbs, the whole two tier malarkey just doesn't pass the sniff test.

[frearsghost]

Arnold Tabbs, on 15 November 2024 - 03:11 PM, said:

Of course I don't support somebody being arrested for a mild rebuke but I'm not naive enough to believe that the police arrested Ms Wilcox just for saying "go home. You are devaluing property."

What I do believe, though, is that there is much cherry picking of stories going on so that zealots can put forward conspiracy theories. There was a story in the paper the other day about a black man - a former policeman - being wrongly accused of shoplifting and banned from every Morrisons in the country. He was said to have behaved aggressively but CCT showed him simply trying to state his innocence.

No mention of that on this forum, but if I were trying to create a false narrative I'd be using this incident to imply that there is deliberate discrimination against black men in supermarkets.

Once again, for the benefit of anybody else determined not to grasp a point if it doesn't fit his or her prejudice. I point out that the Harehills rioters got longer sentences than anybody taking part in the trouble following the Southport murders. If there was really a two-tier anti-British conspiracy the Romanians would have been given less time in prison and the Rotherham and Middlesbrough hooligans more.

In other words, your conspiracy theory is not supported by any evidence here. So the Police released a badly-worded statement? Hardly the News Story if the Century, is it?

Sorry but you do support imprisonment for mild rebukes. You've admitted guessing about what was said.

You're story about the black guy actually supports what I'm saying.

Like many others, I've never heard about the incident so why should there be comments about it on here? A lack of comment neither proves or disapproves events.

Where is the prejudice by those responding to arrests and imprisonment for saying hurty words? More like standing up for justice.

Your denial there is no two-tier system using examples of Harehills, Southport and Rotherham is inadmissable. The three are totally different. Different crimes commited before Starmer was PM. (Rotherham)  So we got there in the end. It's me whose the conspiracy theorist. Thanks for that. Actually, I think your original post contained your own slewed political narrative even before you began to type. You'll get of support on here for that but I'll tell you this fella:


Despite efforts to obscure the truth of a two tier system that the majority of people in the UK witness for themselves, the reality of an authoritarian two tier system remains unchanged and no amount of malleable rhetorical gymnastsics can flip the script.


One day they might come for you.


I won't continue this exchange. I've had my say.

This post has been edited by frearsghost: 15 November 2024 - 04:17 PM

[calvin plummers socks]

frearsghost, on 15 November 2024 - 04:14 PM, said:

Sorry but you do support imprisonment for mild rebukes. You've admitted guessing about what was said.

You're story about the black guy actually supports what I'm saying.

Like many others, I've never heard about the incident so why should there be comments about it on here? A lack of comment neither proves or disapproves events.

Where is the prejudice by those responding to arrests and imprisonment for saying hurty words? More like standing up for justice.

Your denial there is no two-tier system using examples of Harehills, Southport and Rotherham is inadmissable. The three are totally different. Different crimes commited before Starmer was PM. (Rotherham)  So we got there in the end. It's me whose the conspiracy theorist. Thanks for that. Actually, I think your original post contained your own slewed political narrative even before you began to type. You'll get of support on here for that but I'll tell you this fella:


Despite efforts to obscure the truth of a two tier system that the majority of people in the UK witness for themselves, the reality of an authoritarian two tier system remains unchanged and no amount of malleable rhetorical gymnastsics can flip the script.


One day they might come for you.


I won't continue this exchange. I've had my say.

So many bell ends nowadays saying ?hurry words? as a phrase.

She pleaded guilty- she was racist. Her boyfriend is in Court for setting fire to a building full of people - she?s scum

[PontePete]

Goku, on 15 November 2024 - 03:48 PM, said:

Can't believe my reply to this got deleted btw, though I can guess which bell end reported me

Anyway cracking post by Arnold Tabbs, the whole two tier malarkey just doesn't pass the sniff test.

2 tier moderating, must be catching

[Search & Destroy]

237 men invaded the UK, yesterday. That takes this year's current total to more than 31,000.

No arrests were made. All will be given free housing, private healthcare, mobile phones and food, paid for by the taxpayer.

[Goku]

Search & Destroy, on 16 November 2024 - 03:36 PM, said:

237 men invaded the UK, yesterday. That takes this year's current total to more than 31,000.

No arrests were made. All will be given free housing, private healthcare, mobile phones and food, paid for by the taxpayer.

God bless these brave travellers 🤎 hopefully some rock up in Boza soon

[Misnomer]

Arnold Tabbs, on 15 November 2024 - 03:11 PM, said:

Of course I don't support somebody being arrested for a mild rebuke but I'm not naive enough to believe that the police arrested Ms Wilcox just for saying "go home. You are devaluing property."

What I do believe, though, is that there is much cherry picking of stories going on so that zealots can put forward conspiracy theories. There was a story in the paper the other day about a black man - a former policeman - being wrongly accused of shoplifting and banned from every Morrisons in the country. He was said to have behaved aggressively but CCT showed him simply trying to state his innocence.

No mention of that on this forum, but if I were trying to create a false narrative I'd be using this incident to imply that there is deliberate discrimination against black men in supermarkets.

Once again, for the benefit of anybody else determined not to grasp a point if it doesn't fit his or her prejudice. I point out that the Harehills rioters got longer sentences than anybody taking part in the trouble following the Southport murders. If there was really a two-tier anti-British conspiracy the Romanians would have been given less time in prison and the Rotherham and Middlesbrough hooligans more.

In other words, your conspiracy theory is not supported by any evidence here. So the Police released a badly-worded statement? Hardly the News Story if the Century, is it?

Of course it isn't but, you can also argue that it devalues what it actually was. That then, further opens the door for discussion regarding alleged two-tier policing.

Badly worded? Do you think they asked the new apprentice in admin to draft it? This is West Yorkshire police, referring to a major incident as a 'vigil'. Would you be happy if Kemi Badenoch referred to the riots as, a bit of a 'disagreement'? I reckon a few on here would be having seizures!

Your analogy is weak. A lone black guy shoplifting v a community of Romanians rioting; quite a difference. The narrative spun by Yvette Cooper, for instance was, to immediately play it down.

The continued, nationwide, grooming gangs scandal, is also a major incident. Is that a false narrative?

MI5 stating the biggest threat to our safety is radical Islam - is that a false narrative? The only reason MI5 was brought into the discussion was because, a certain poster incorrectly and purposely tried to create the exact thing you are claiming is being done by others - a false narrative, conspiracy theories.

You prefer these major incidents not to be discussed? The point of highlighting the woman from Harehills is, to draw attention to the police devaluing what happened, and to a prominent community leader spending 13 hours in a police cell for allegedly shouting something that the police deemed racially aggravated. This isn't 'cherry picking', it's related to a major incident.

Meanwhile, a couple of hundred Muslim lads camped outside Rochdale police station, shouted far worse, did far worse, and the police did....nothing.

Meanwhile, during the riots, another major incident; we had huge gangs of Muslim lads, brazenly walking around with hammers, knives and machetes, directly in front of the police, and they did.... nothing.

Your opinion seems to be, people who disagree with you shouldn't have an opinion. And if they do, you class it as, cherry picking, creating false narratives and conspiracy theories. Have you learned nothing from the Southport tragedy....

[calvin plummers socks]

Misnomer, on 17 November 2024 - 11:51 AM, said:

Of course it isn't but, you can also argue that it devalues what it actually was. That then, further opens the door for discussion regarding alleged two-tier policing.

Badly worded? Do you think they asked the new apprentice in admin to draft it? This is West Yorkshire police, referring to a major incident as a 'vigil'. Would you be happy if Kemi Badenoch referred to the riots as, a bit of a 'disagreement'? I reckon a few on here would be having seizures!

Your analogy is weak. A lone black guy shoplifting v a community of Romanians rioting; quite a difference. The narrative spun by Yvette Cooper, for instance was, to immediately play it down.

The continued, nationwide, grooming gangs scandal, is also a major incident. Is that a false narrative?

MI5 stating the biggest threat to our safety is radical Islam - is that a false narrative? The only reason MI5 was brought into the discussion was because, a certain poster incorrectly and purposely tried to create the exact thing you are claiming is being done by others - a false narrative, conspiracy theories.

You prefer these major incidents not to be discussed? The point of highlighting the woman from Harehills is, to draw attention to the police devaluing what happened, and to a prominent community leader spending 13 hours in a police cell for allegedly shouting something that the police deemed racially aggravated. This isn't 'cherry picking', it's related to a major incident.

Meanwhile, a couple of hundred Muslim lads camped outside Rochdale police station, shouted far worse, did far worse, and the police did....nothing.

Meanwhile, during the riots, another major incident; we had huge gangs of Muslim lads, brazenly walking around with hammers, knives and machetes, directly in front of the police, and they did.... nothing.

Your opinion seems to be, people who disagree with you shouldn't have an opinion. And if they do, you class it as, cherry picking, creating false narratives and conspiracy theories. Have you learned nothing from the Southport tragedy....

Another day another post moaning about Muslims

[Misnomer]

calvin plummers socks, on 17 November 2024 - 12:00 PM, said:

Another day another post moaning about Muslims

Don't worry, mate, you're all good. The home office are now branding the industrial, nationwide, systematic rape and torture of young white girls by Pakistani grooming gangs as....'right-wing extremist grievance narrative'.

Yet, another example of devaluing henious crimes. Apparently, it's just conspiracy theories and false narratives.

[Mr Mercury]

Wowww….

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 17 November 2024 - 09:26 PM

[dart in the crossbar]

Misnomer, on 17 November 2024 - 11:51 AM, said:

Of course it isn't but, you can also argue that it devalues what it actually was. That then, further opens the door for discussion regarding alleged two-tier policing.

Badly worded? Do you think they asked the new apprentice in admin to draft it? This is West Yorkshire police, referring to a major incident as a 'vigil'. Would you be happy if Kemi Badenoch referred to the riots as, a bit of a 'disagreement'? I reckon a few on here would be having seizures!

Your analogy is weak. A lone black guy shoplifting v a community of Romanians rioting; quite a difference. The narrative spun by Yvette Cooper, for instance was, to immediately play it down.

The continued, nationwide, grooming gangs scandal, is also a major incident. Is that a false narrative?

MI5 stating the biggest threat to our safety is radical Islam - is that a false narrative? The only reason MI5 was brought into the discussion was because, a certain poster incorrectly and purposely tried to create the exact thing you are claiming is being done by others - a false narrative, conspiracy theories.

You prefer these major incidents not to be discussed? The point of highlighting the woman from Harehills is, to draw attention to the police devaluing what happened, and to a prominent community leader spending 13 hours in a police cell for allegedly shouting something that the police deemed racially aggravated. This isn't 'cherry picking', it's related to a major incident.

Meanwhile, a couple of hundred Muslim lads camped outside Rochdale police station, shouted far worse, did far worse, and the police did....nothing.

Meanwhile, during the riots, another major incident; we had huge gangs of Muslim lads, brazenly walking around with hammers, knives and machetes, directly in front of the police, and they did.... nothing.

Your opinion seems to be, people who disagree with you shouldn't have an opinion. And if they do, you class it as, cherry picking, creating false narratives and conspiracy theories. Have you learned nothing from the Southport tragedy....

Presumably you have direct and first hand evidence for the bit that I've put in bold?

Ie that there were 'huge' gangs, that the gangs were made up of 'Muslim lads' and that they were armed with 'hammers, knives and machetes'?

[Misnomer]

dart in the crossbar, on 18 November 2024 - 09:22 AM, said:

Presumably you have direct and first hand evidence for the bit that I've put in bold?

Ie that there were 'huge' gangs, that the gangs were made up of 'Muslim lads' and that they were armed with 'hammers, knives and machetes'?

Mate, it was all over YouTube, X, every other platform that isn't msm.

There's footage of a police blue bib, talking to a group of Muslim lads, tooled up to the max, telling them to go back to the mosque and leave the weapons there. Anyone else would have been arrested, charged and imprisoned.

Further footage of Muslim lads stood outside a mosque, all tooled up. Police stood opposite the mosque, did nothing.

Further footage of a large group of Muslim lads stabbing and hitting with hammers, two defenceless white men - one left with serious head injuries. Said Muslim lads then regroup with others, stood outside a mosque, police stood watching.

The difference with me and certain other posters is, I don't fabricate narratives to divert from reality.

[Misnomer]

Goku, on 15 November 2024 - 03:48 PM, said:

Can't believe my reply to this got deleted btw, though I can guess which bell end reported me

Anyway cracking post by Arnold Tabbs, the whole two tier malarkey just doesn't pass the sniff test.

Some people are very sensitive....

[calvin plummers socks]

Misnomer, on 18 November 2024 - 10:23 AM, said:

Mate, it was all over YouTube, X, every other platform that isn't msm.

There's footage of a police blue bib, talking to a group of Muslim lads, tooled up to the max, telling them to go back to the mosque and leave the weapons there. Anyone else would have been arrested, charged and imprisoned.

Further footage of Muslim lads stood outside a mosque, all tooled up. Police stood opposite the mosque, did nothing.

Further footage of a large group of Muslim lads stabbing and hitting with hammers, two defenceless white men - one left with serious head injuries. Said Muslim lads then regroup with others, stood outside a mosque, police stood watching.

The difference with me and certain other posters is, I don't fabricate narratives to divert from reality.

You?re quite clearly deranged

[Misnomer]

calvin plummers socks, on 18 November 2024 - 10:27 AM, said:

You?re quite clearly deranged

I actually laughed, so I'll thank you for that 👍🏿
Predictable as the sun rising....the Gillian McKeith troll has his usual input.

[calvin plummers socks]

Misnomer, on 18 November 2024 - 10:34 AM, said:

I actually laughed, so I'll thank you for that 👍🏿
Predictable as the sun rising....the Gillian McKeith troll has his usual input.

Why do you carry so much hate and vitriol?

[Misnomer]

calvin plummers socks, on 18 November 2024 - 10:36 AM, said:

Why do you carry so much hate and vitriol?

You mean posting facts? It makes you uncomfortable, I get it.

I don't expect you to understand because, all you've ever demonstrated on here is, what a huge dunce you are.

This post has been edited by Misnomer: 18 November 2024 - 10:41 AM

[calvin plummers socks]

Misnomer, on 18 November 2024 - 10:40 AM, said:

You mean posting facts? It makes you uncomfortable, I get it.

I don't expect you to understand because, all you've ever demonstrated on here is, what a huge dunce you are.

Ironically,

Are you actually ok?

[Misnomer]

calvin plummers socks, on 18 November 2024 - 10:41 AM, said:

Are you actually ok?

Thick dunce 👍🏿