[Exharboroughspireite]

Not sure I understand the logic of chucking square pegs into round holes eg false number 9, mandeville, naylor up top.

We have an attacker who has scored 4 already, has played there before and has pace to burn. Stick Berry up front.

We also have ample amount of cover for him on the wing - mandeville, jacobs, coco (when back). Its a bit of a no brainer.

[danblue]

Exharboroughspireite, on 16 September 2024 - 09:09 AM, said:

Not sure I understand the logic of chucking square pegs into round holes eg false number 9, mandeville, naylor up top.

We have an attacker who has scored 4 already, has played there before and has pace to burn. Stick Berry up front.

We also have ample amount of cover for him on the wing - mandeville, jacobs, coco (when back). Its a bit of a no brainer.

Tru dat

[Bonnyman]

Exharboroughspireite, on 16 September 2024 - 09:09 AM, said:

Not sure I understand the logic of chucking square pegs into round holes eg false number 9, mandeville, naylor up top.

We have an attacker who has scored 4 already, has played there before and has pace to burn. Stick Berry up front.

We also have ample amount of cover for him on the wing - mandeville, jacobs, coco (when back). Its a bit of a no brainer.

Apart from he is a winger, does not look like he can hold a ball up and I actually don?t think he even played there for Macclesfield much

[60s 70s Spireite]

Bonnyman, on 16 September 2024 - 09:46 AM, said:

Apart from he is a winger, does not look like he can hold a ball up and I actually don?t think he even played there for Macclesfield much

And can?t head.

[DIFH]

Bonnyman, on 16 September 2024 - 09:46 AM, said:

Apart from he is a winger, does not look like he can hold a ball up and I actually don?t think he even played there for Macclesfield much

Spot on, maybe we can play without a CF and do something a little different.

[Goku]

I feel like you could play Berry if the opposition are playing a high line and you're looking to play through balls for him to run on to, not so sure he'd do much against a deep, packed defence at home when we have all the ball but suppose we'll see.

[azul]

I don't get all this trashing of peoples ideas. We will have to do something different either with the formation or personnel. Only one person's idea is important and I hope it is a good one.

[Westbars Spireite]

I don?t think it?s beyond the realms of possibility that Madden?s fit and raring to go at the weekend.

[Osborne again]

Bonnyman, on 16 September 2024 - 09:46 AM, said:

Apart from he is a winger, does not look like he can hold a ball up and I actually don?t think he even played there for Macclesfield much

I'd hope we'd use his pace, and make the defenders turn. It's no good expecting Berry or Drummond to hold the ball up or head it. They're both more like Doyle than Grigg or Quigley, so that's how we have to utilise them.
If Grigg's out for a bit, let's hope Paddy Madden can take up the slack because it's asking a lot of either Berry or Drummond to fill Will Grigg's shoes.

[CFC91]

Westbars Spireite, on 16 September 2024 - 10:27 AM, said:

I don?t think it?s beyond the realms of possibility that Madden?s fit and raring to go at the weekend.

I think Madden and Fleck come into contention this weekend, interesting conundrum for PC

[JonB]

Osborne again, on 16 September 2024 - 10:36 AM, said:

I'd hope we'd use his pace, and make the defenders turn.

That only works if there is space in behind defenders to do it. Dont think it would take long for them to realise its the only real option so sit deeper to restrict the space and force Berry to play in front of them.

[dim view]

Exharboroughspireite, on 16 September 2024 - 09:09 AM, said:

Not sure I understand the logic of chucking square pegs into round holes......

As soon as our '3', whoever they are, start to get into the game more and impose themselves then we'll score goals - on a plate for Madden, Drummond, Dobra, a.n. other. Our fundamental problem imo is that their possession stats are inadequate. They won't be when Fleck takes control. We have to be patient though cos he'll injure himself if he starts too soon.

[Osborne again]

JonB, on 16 September 2024 - 10:55 AM, said:

That only works if there is space in behind defenders to do it. Dont think it would take long for them to realise its the only real option so sit deeper to restrict the space and force Berry to play in front of them.

You play through them and make them put a challenge in. I'm sure Paul Cook will come up with a devious plan 😁.

[60s 70s Spireite]

dim view, on 16 September 2024 - 11:22 AM, said:

As soon as our '3', whoever they are, start to get into the game more and impose themselves then we'll score goals - on a plate for Madden, Drummond, Dobra, a.n. other. Our fundamental problem imo is that their possession stats are inadequate. They won't be when Fleck takes control. We have to be patient though cos he'll injure himself if he starts too soon.

The 9 minutes highlights seem to show a misplaced pass every frame. Certainly a bad day at the office.

[Exharboroughspireite]

Bonnyman, on 16 September 2024 - 09:46 AM, said:

Apart from he is a winger, does not look like he can hold a ball up and I actually don?t think he even played there for Macclesfield much

Fair play. Lets go with the mandeville/ naylor suggestions instead then! what do I know!

[dtp]

Exharboroughspireite, on 16 September 2024 - 09:09 AM, said:

Not sure I understand the logic of chucking square pegs into round holes eg false number 9, mandeville, naylor up top.

We have an attacker who has scored 4 already, has played there before and has pace to burn. Stick Berry up front.

We also have ample amount of cover for him on the wing - mandeville, jacobs, coco (when back). Its a bit of a no brainer.

Berry has never played there before for us nor at this level. If he has played there before it was at the same level as Drummond did.

I believe Mandeville may have played central as a striker for Doncaster but not necessarily as a one up top.

Obviously, if we are going to be without Grigg, Cook has either got to bring somebody in or experiment either with personnel or with the system.

They have a week to work on it and decide the way forward.

[paul92_cfc]

Letting quigley go was a mistake in my eyes would of served well as back up to grigg and madden especially with both of there recent injuries

[danblue]

paul92_cfc, on 16 September 2024 - 08:37 PM, said:

Letting quigley go was a mistake in my eyes would of served well as back up to grigg and madden especially with both of there recent injuries

I can only think that a deal dor a replacement has fallen through because to let a senior back up striker go and have nobody lined up to replace him is a head scratcher

This post has been edited by danblue: 16 September 2024 - 08:46 PM

[dim view]

paul92_cfc, on 16 September 2024 - 08:37 PM, said:

Letting quigley go was a mistake in my eyes would of served well as back up to grigg and madden especially with both of there recent injuries

There's no evidence that Quigley could serve well as a back up to Grigg, except as a substitute. When given the opportunity to start matches in a lower league towards the end of last season he did nowt, and we lost matches. Maybe a harsh conclusion, but it's what Cook saw.

[Spireite93]

paul92_cfc, on 16 September 2024 - 08:37 PM, said:

Letting quigley go was a mistake in my eyes would of served well as back up to grigg and madden especially with both of there recent injuries

It's fascinating how good Quigley has become since his departure, had he not gone and was still here, they'd be the same (if not worse) blind panic on this forum with him as our only option