[Zigsuk]

Because of our steady but not spectacular start - 2 frustrating home draws and a spectacular away win - the doom merchants have a bit of a conundrum - do they bide their time until a couple of defeats or go into full wrist slashing mode now?
Britarse has already made the very silly statement that there was no point winning away if you are going to draw at home. Of course drawing home and winning away is the same as wining at home and drawing away which is usually the measure of success. Whilst Walton has taken against our new right back despite most rating him. Still it makes a change from him criticising our old left back Horton.

[Walton Spireite]

It's a steady start. Too many players under contract which aren't good enough. I will bide my time. I will fall on my sword re Gordon yes I was wrong on my initial judgement. For that I sincerely apologise. However right back is still an issue.

This post has been edited by Walton Spireite: 24 August 2024 - 10:18 PM

[CFC91]

Walton Spireite, on 24 August 2024 - 10:16 PM, said:

It's a steady start. Too many players under contract which aren't good enough. I will bide my time. I will fall on my sword re Gordon yes I was wrong on my initial judgement. For that I sincerely apologise. However right back is still an issue.

The RB from Fulham will be class. Confident of this, not sure what the situation regards his fitness is though

The two bigger issues for me are, we need a CB to play alongside Dunkley to get Naylor back in CDM & we need a better option up top than Quigley as a plan B.

We aren?t far off a side that should be in and around the play offs though

This post has been edited by CFC91: 25 August 2024 - 06:17 AM

[Westbars Spireite]

CFC91, on 25 August 2024 - 06:16 AM, said:

The RB from Fulham will be class. Confident of this, not sure what the situation regards his fitness is though

The two bigger issues for me are, we need a CB to play alongside Dunkley to get Naylor back in CDM & we need a better option up top than Quigley as a plan B.

We aren?t far off a side that should be in and around the play offs though

Isn't Araujo that man? I think JG deserves a go first when fit though.

Poor JQ didn't touch the ball when he came on I don't think, if he did I missed it.

This post has been edited by Westbars Spireite: 25 August 2024 - 06:24 AM

[CFC91]

Westbars Spireite, on 25 August 2024 - 06:24 AM, said:

Isn't Araujo that man? I think JG deserves a go first when fit though.

Poor JQ didn't touch the ball when he came on I don't think, if he did I missed it.

Potentially, but again wasn?t involved yesterday. Expected him to come into the side straight away like Tanton did. Assume they both have injuries of some description. Not sure which one of Banks or DJ I?d drop, both have had good games, both also been sloppy at times. DJ perhaps slightly edging Banks so far

[OneDecentLester]

Once Madden is back, that will be the last of Quigley. Been a good servant to us, but I completely agree that a level up he is going to struggle to make any kind of impact from the bench. I can see Cook rotating Madden and Grigg, and then on the odd occasions playing Madden behind Grigg but I personally think Dobra has that position nailed down now and his playing some of the best football he?s played here since he arrived. That number 10 role has always been his best, he can be a bit predictable on the left wing I?ve always thought, whereas centrally no one can get near him.

Personally I wouldn?t be moving Naylor from CB. I think with him and Dunkley we have potentially the best centre back partnership in the league, they are that good. Midfield IMO has been brilliant so far this season, so see no urge to put Naylor back in there and the risk of moving him isn?t worth taking, even for another CB coming in (where?s the guarentee they?ll be better than Naylor? Cos the likelihood is they won?t be)

[dim view]

OneDecentLester, on 25 August 2024 - 07:18 AM, said:

Personally I wouldn?t be moving Naylor from CB. I think with him and Dunkley we have potentially the best centre back partnership in the league, they are that good. Midfield IMO has been brilliant so far this season, so see no urge to put Naylor back in there and the risk of moving him isn?t worth taking, even for another CB coming in (where?s the guarentee they?ll be better than Naylor? Cos the likelihood is they won?t be)

I tend to differ.
Dunkley has been effective on the left but his premium position is right. And now we have 2 fine CH's vying for the left. We'll be at our best with our best players playing in their best positions.

[dtp]

Westbars Spireite, on 25 August 2024 - 06:24 AM, said:

Isn't Araujo that man? I think JG deserves a go first when fit though.

Poor JQ didn't touch the ball when he came on I don't think, if he did I missed it.

Sometimes the reason a player does not get a touch of the ball is because of the very fact that he was not in receipt of a pass. Grigg hardly touched the ball yesterday either.

If you do not get the ball to your strikers it is either because the final ball is not good enough or the opposition defence were excellent. I thought it was more of the former than the latter yesterday.

[CFC91]

I?m on the fence if I?m honest. Part of me thinks our strongest team would be something like this, but also aware it would involve dropping some who have had good starts to the season

Boot
Tanton Dunkley Araujo Gordon
Naylor DJ/Banks
Markanday Madden Dobra
Grigg

A bench with Berry/Coco/Mandy etc on is going to be ridiculously strong. Don?t think Berry is droppable at the minute but that?s the only way I see Madden getting into the team, unless we did as ODL says and just rotate the strikers, which is again something I wouldn?t be averse too, and keeping Berry in the side and Dobra more central (probably his best position based on the last 4 games)

A very nice problem to have in all honesty

This post has been edited by CFC91: 25 August 2024 - 07:59 AM

[martatcross]

Westbars Spireite, on 25 August 2024 - 06:24 AM, said:

Isn't Araujo that man? I think JG deserves a go first when fit though.

Poor JQ didn't touch the ball when he came on I don't think, if he did I missed it.

Grigg had 16 touches of the ball so why have a go at Quigley maybe the problem is not playing the ball to the centre forward

[Westbars Spireite]

dtp, on 25 August 2024 - 07:56 AM, said:

Sometimes the reason a player does not get a touch of the ball is because of the very fact that he was not in receipt of a pass. Grigg hardly touched the ball yesterday either.

If you do not get the ball to your strikers it is either because the final ball is not good enough or the opposition defence were excellent. I thought it was more of the former than the latter yesterday.

I wasn't being critical of him particularly. He was though on the pitch for 10/11 minutes of play and I'm quite sure didn't touch the ball.

martatcross, on 25 August 2024 - 10:52 AM, said:

Grigg had 16 touches of the ball so why have a go at Quigley maybe the problem is not playing the ball to the centre forward

I wasn't having a go, it's just what happened unless I missed him touching the ball.

This post has been edited by Westbars Spireite: 25 August 2024 - 11:40 AM

[Norton Blue]

dim view, on 25 August 2024 - 07:53 AM, said:

I tend to differ.
Dunkley has been effective on the left but his premium position is right. And now we have 2 fine CH's vying for the left. We'll be at our best with our best players playing in their best positions.

Which ?fine? left sided centre halves do we have? And by ?fine? do you mean mediocre or ‘fine’ as in quality?

This post has been edited by Norton Blue: 25 August 2024 - 01:59 PM

[turrhall]

CFC91, on 25 August 2024 - 06:45 AM, said:

Potentially, but again wasn?t involved yesterday. Expected him to come into the side straight away like Tanton did. Assume they both have injuries of some description. Not sure which one of Banks or DJ I?d drop, both have had good games, both also been sloppy at times. DJ perhaps slightly edging Banks so far

It's a long old season, he'll be integrated when ready, I think mid season it's difficult to see the wood for trees, especially this early on.

Araujo looks good from what we've seen but he still only has 1 (one) senior professional appearance so that's probably a factor.

Dropping DJ vs Banks is a big decision - but ultimately they'll both get plenty of playing time one way or another

[lindave]

Walton Spireite, on 24 August 2024 - 10:16 PM, said:

It's a steady start. Too many players under contract which aren't good enough. I will bide my time. I will fall on my sword re Gordon yes I was wrong on my initial judgement. For that I sincerely apologise. However right back is still an issue.

Daley Cambell is looking stronger each game, whilst Gordon on the other flank has been awesome.

[BlueRodneyFern]

lindave, on 26 August 2024 - 04:55 PM, said:

Daley Cambell is looking stronger each game, whilst Gordon on the other flank has been awesome.

Tanton out for a further 2 weeks as scan shows a tear but otherwise is looking fit and can't wait until he is back as he said this is his first muscle injury

[Siberian Spireite]

Zigsuk, on 24 August 2024 - 10:04 PM, said:

Because of our steady but not spectacular start - 2 frustrating home draws and a spectacular away win - the doom merchants have a bit of a conundrum - do they bide their time until a couple of defeats or go into full wrist slashing mode now?
Britarse has already made the very silly statement that there was no point winning away if you are going to draw at home. Of course drawing home and winning away is the same as wining at home and drawing away which is usually the measure of success. Whilst Walton has taken against our new right back despite most rating him. Still it makes a change from him criticising our old left back Horton.

Why do you let it bother you? Just ignore them.

[Osborne again]

lindave, on 26 August 2024 - 04:55 PM, said:

Daley Cambell is looking stronger each game, whilst Gordon on the other flank has been awesome.

I liked Daley Cambell from the go, but I wasn't impressed with Gordon at first, but he's just gone up several gears. I can't see Horton unseating him, that's for sure. He has everything a left back needs to do his job, he's a fantastic signing. Both defensive flanks have had a massive upgrade from last season.