[azul]

Based on Paul Cook?s statement about people needing game time and the need to field at least four outfield players that featured in the previous game.

Boot
Campbell Williams Grimes Horton
Akinola Jones
Markanday Banks Berry
Drummond

Would not be surprised if he subbed Banks and Berry at HT and brought on Hobson and one of the academy lads and the other two Crewe starters soon after

This post has been edited by azul: 18 August 2024 - 09:00 AM

[Bald magician]

Put the youth team out

[azul]

Bald magician, on 18 August 2024 - 09:00 AM, said:

Put the youth team out

That's how the game needs treated but you can't unless you want the club fined and anyway at least three or four need game time

This post has been edited by azul: 18 August 2024 - 09:04 AM

[dtp]

azul, on 18 August 2024 - 08:58 AM, said:

Based on Paul Cook?s statement about people needing game time and the need to field at least four outfield players that featured in the previous game.

Boot
Campbell Williams Grimes Horton
Akinola Jones
Markanday Banks Berry
Drummond

Would not be surprised if he subbed Banks and Berry at HT and brought on Hobson and one of the academy lads and the other two Crewe starters soon after

We had 15 outfield players feature against Crewe so if all the substitutes are named as starters does not that cover the rules even before the likes of Jones, Grimes, Horton, Akinola, Williams and Drummond are included?

[Painted Wagon]

azul, on 18 August 2024 - 09:02 AM, said:

That's how the game needs treated but you can't unless you want the club fined and anyway at least three or four need game time

The competition lost some credibility when it allowed clubs to enter their U21 teams.

[Looker-on]

For me, and if all fit, something like

Boot
Jessop* Williams Grimes Araujo*
Jones Akinola
Jacobs Hobson* Drummond
Quigley*


* featured in the Crewe game.

[Spireiteranger]

I?m just waiting for someone to suggest it?s a trophy we can win and should be playing strongest side etc etc

[azul]

dtp, on 18 August 2024 - 09:13 AM, said:

We had 15 outfield players feature against Crewe so if all the substitutes are named as starters does not that cover the rules even before the likes of Jones, Grimes, Horton, Akinola, Williams and Drummond are included?

No it means at least 4 in the starting eleven of the preceding first team game (or the subsequent first team game). I'm sure it was 6 at one point.

[danblue]

Painted Wagon, on 18 August 2024 - 09:28 AM, said:

The competition lost some credibility when it allowed clubs to enter their U21 teams.

Exactly.
It's a competitive run out boarding a reserves fixture.

[60s 70s Spireite]

azul, on 18 August 2024 - 09:35 AM, said:

No it means at least 4 in the starting eleven of the preceding first team game (or the subsequent first team game). I'm sure it was 6 at one point.

I?m going Campbell, Markanday, Boot and Berry. Boot and Berry to be subbed on 20 minutes.

[Benno Spire]

For the group games, they are potentially a great opportunity to give game time to fringe players and if we somehow progress then only start taking it seriously at the semi final stage. Jessop on the bench I think was planning for this game

[azul]

60s 70s Spireite, on 18 August 2024 - 09:45 AM, said:

I?m going Campbell, Markanday, Boot and Berry. Boot and Berry to be subbed on 20 minutes.

I'm sure clubs did that when the PFL U21 first entered. Don't see anything in the rules to prevent that. CPL will probably argue it doing so would mess with integrity of the competition, what integrity?

It is ridiculous that this competition is the only one that has such stipulations. I am sure the excuse was that the sponsors insisted on it but I would not be surprised if it was the PFL.

[turrhall]

The eligibility rules for the EFL Trophy are viewable here: https://www.efl.com/...l-trophy-rules/

The jist is that there has to be 4 players who have

- STARTED the previous league game (Crewe)
or
-will start the next league game (Salford)

-in the top 10 players for STARTS this season, which I think covers the Derby game too (so any player that has started 2+ over the 3 games)

- have made 40+ first team starts, not necessarily for Town, ever

-are loaned from a prem team (Tanton, Araujo) or from a team who have a cat 1 academy

Very convoluted - but it is only 4 of the players that start that need to meet these criteria

From reading the rules, my understanding is that we could field a team with Boot, Tanton, Araujo and Quigley in it and meet the criteria

Unless Cook was planning to literally play the u18s, it would be almost impossible not to field at least 4 'eligible' players. Williams/Grimes/Jones/Horton would all have made 40+ starts in their careers. Akinola/Jessop/Drummond/Mohiuddin/Cook the only ones I can think of who wouldn't count towards the 4 as 'eligible'

This post has been edited by turrhall: 18 August 2024 - 10:30 AM

[dim view]

60s 70s Spireite, on 18 August 2024 - 09:45 AM, said:

I?m going Campbell, Markanday, Boot and Berry. Boot and Berry to be subbed on 20 minutes.

It would surely be madness to risk Boooooot, even for 20?

[Looker-on]

turrhall, on 18 August 2024 - 10:16 AM, said:

The eligibility rules for the EFL Trophy are viewable here: https://www.efl.com/...l-trophy-rules/

The jist is that there has to be 4 players who have

- STARTED the previous league game (Crewe)
or
-will start the next league game (Salford)

Looks like I'm getting fined, then!

[Trigger]

Didn't the prize money go up as an incentive to win games in this when the current competition sponsors came in? Either way, I can see us not bothering much with it. Il watch it from the lodge in skeg either way

[60s 70s Spireite]

dim view, on 18 August 2024 - 10:35 AM, said:

It would surely be madness to risk Boooooot, even for 20?

I was going on Webb?s post match interview, he was still noncommittal about introducing the youngster.

[azul]

turrhall, on 18 August 2024 - 10:16 AM, said:

The eligibility rules for the EFL Trophy are viewable here: https://www.efl.com/...l-trophy-rules/

The jist is that there has to be 4 players who have

- STARTED the previous league game (Crewe)
or
-will start the next league game (Salford)

-in the top 10 players for STARTS this season, which I think covers the Derby game too (so any player that has started 2+ over the 3 games)

- have made 40+ first team starts, not necessarily for Town, ever

-are loaned from a prem team (Tanton, Araujo) or from a team who have a cat 1 academy

Very convoluted - but it is only 4 of the players that start that need to meet these criteria

From reading the rules, my understanding is that we could field a team with Boot, Tanton, Araujo and Quigley in it and meet the criteria

Unless Cook was planning to literally play the u18s, it would be almost impossible not to field at least 4 'eligible' players. Williams/Grimes/Jones/Horton would all have made 40+ starts in their careers. Akinola/Jessop/Drummond/Mohiuddin/Cook the only ones I can think of who wouldn't count towards the 4 as 'eligible'

I agree with your interpretation except for Boot - unless he was playing outfield

?Full Available Strength? means the EFL Club must include at least four Qualifying Players in the ten outfield Players named in the starting eleven on the Team Sheet.

Counting on loan players from a Cat 1 academy in the ?Full Available Strength? definition is an odd condition as the whole point of the inclusion of PFL U21 is to give their academy players experience against hardened EFL pros

[lindave]

Looker-on, on 18 August 2024 - 09:34 AM, said:

For me, and if all fit, something like

Boot
Jessop* Williams Grimes Araujo*
Jones Akinola
Jacobs Hobson* Drummond
Quigley*


* featured in the Crewe game.

I'd hope to see grimes given a run to get him fit.

[born in 1866]

Play the fringe players.
Maximum fine of 5k. A drop in the ocean compared to Grigg Dunks etc picking up an injury