[tomjoad]

Of course he dosnt hrs just fishing

[SPM]

Defence and up front you're lacking. Defence mainly.

Grigg won't be what he was last season against pathetic cannon fodder which was most of that league and if you're being brutally honest you need a younger quicker upgrade. Pace, you need pace. You lack this in key areas.

Last time Grigg was in a EFL team he scored 5 goals in a season. That's why you've signed Madden, although age isn't on either of those two side. When we played Stockport last game of the season Madden came on and went straight into a 21 year old's (Max Cleworth) pocket. He isn't what he was.

Have you still got that non scoring Carthorse Quigley? Thats a serious drop off in quality.

I reckon you can make the play offs, but automatics looks a stretch too far right now. Would any of your team get into Mansfield, Wrexham or Stockports teams of last season. The answer is maybe 1 or 2.

Don't let a p!ss easy cake walk season in NL lull you into thinking your top three league two material. I know that triggers Chesterfield but its just the facts, you went unchallenged last season.
We finished miles ahead of you and still had to add the likes of Sir James McClean, Fletcher, Okonkwo and George Evans to ensure we were competing at the top. You don't have that quality,squad depth and experience.

I'll be back in November to give you another education and assesment on L2. Welcome to a big boys league.

Oh and P.S. I though football was coming home?

[CFC91]

SPM, on 22 July 2024 - 09:43 AM, said:

I reckon you can make the play offs, but automatics looks a stretch too far right now. Would any of your team get into Mansfield, Wrexham or Stockports teams of last season. The answer is maybe 1 or 2.

Don't let a p!ss easy cake walk season in NL lull you into thinking your top three league two material. I know that triggers Chesterfield but its just the facts, you went unchallenged last season.
We finished miles ahead of you and still had to add the likes of Sir James McClean, Fletcher, Okonkwo and George Evans to ensure we were competing at the top. You don't have that quality,squad depth and experience.

You're fishing but I don't disagree with much of that post

I think you should read some of the threads on here, half our fan base think we will be getting relegated, it's certainly not full of people thinking we will make the play offs.

on paper we are probably a midtable side at the moment, lack any sort of pace or strength in the spine of the team - we need a CB alongisde Dunkley, and we need a CDM alongside Naylor in my opinion. Sounds like we will get Tyrer back from Everton in goal which will be a plus

This post has been edited by CFC91: 22 July 2024 - 09:53 AM

[Westbars Spireite]

SPM, on 22 July 2024 - 09:43 AM, said:

Defence and up front you're lacking. Defence mainly.

Grigg won't be what he was last season against pathetic cannon fodder which was most of that league and if you're being brutally honest you need a younger quicker upgrade. Pace, you need pace. You lack this in key areas.

Last time Grigg was in a EFL team he scored 5 goals in a season. That's why you've signed Madden, although age isn't on either of those two side. When we played Stockport last game of the season Madden came on and went straight into a 21 year old's (Max Cleworth) pocket. He isn't what he was.

Have you still got that non scoring Carthorse Quigley? Thats a serious drop off in quality.

I reckon you can make the play offs, but automatics looks a stretch too far right now. Would any of your team get into Mansfield, Wrexham or Stockports teams of last season. The answer is maybe 1 or 2.

Don't let a p!ss easy cake walk season in NL lull you into thinking your top three league two material. I know that triggers Chesterfield but its just the facts, you went unchallenged last season.
We finished miles ahead of you and still had to add the likes of Sir James McClean, Fletcher, Okonkwo and George Evans to ensure we were competing at the top. You don't have that quality,squad depth and experience.

I'll be back in November to give you another education and assesment on L2. Welcome to a big boys league.

Oh and P.S. I though football was coming home?

How did Wales get on?

[Hibbo98]

SPM, on 22 July 2024 - 09:43 AM, said:

Defence and up front you're lacking. Defence mainly.

Grigg won't be what he was last season against pathetic cannon fodder which was most of that league and if you're being brutally honest you need a younger quicker upgrade. Pace, you need pace. You lack this in key areas.

Last time Grigg was in a EFL team he scored 5 goals in a season. That's why you've signed Madden, although age isn't on either of those two side. When we played Stockport last game of the season Madden came on and went straight into a 21 year old's (Max Cleworth) pocket. He isn't what he was.

Have you still got that non scoring Carthorse Quigley? Thats a serious drop off in quality.

I reckon you can make the play offs, but automatics looks a stretch too far right now. Would any of your team get into Mansfield, Wrexham or Stockports teams of last season. The answer is maybe 1 or 2.

Don't let a p!ss easy cake walk season in NL lull you into thinking your top three league two material. I know that triggers Chesterfield but its just the facts, you went unchallenged last season.
We finished miles ahead of you and still had to add the likes of Sir James McClean, Fletcher, Okonkwo and George Evans to ensure we were competing at the top. You don't have that quality,squad depth and experience.

I'll be back in November to give you another education and assesment on L2. Welcome to a big boys league.

Oh and P.S. I though football was coming home?

This is spot on for the most part

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

I'm puzzled.

If getting promoted from non league is as easy as this character claims, why did it take his club sixteen years to do it?

Y'know, whilst we're twice champions of this "big boys league"...

PS: I quite supported plucky little underdogs Wales when they had their moment of glory a couple of tournaments ago ..

This post has been edited by The Earl of Chesterfield: 22 July 2024 - 10:23 AM

[gordon_brittas]

I think I said it would take 3 years for us to get up. The preseason friendlies have kind of solidified that now. There are too many players in our squad that don?t have that quality to step us up a level. It will take at least 3 transfer windows to move half of these players on.

I?d like to see more younger players bought in and an emphasis on raising our own players such as Clucas and Cooper to bring in big fees.

Not knocking Cook or the club for one moment, getting out the National League was a monumental effort, but we are in for a massive shock if we think we will walk this league with the squad we have. We won?t.

[JonB]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 22 July 2024 - 10:16 AM, said:

If getting promoted from non league is as easy as this character claims, why did it take his club sixteen years to do it?

They'd still be there if the Hollywood money hadnt rolled into town....

[JonB]

gordon_brittas, on 22 July 2024 - 10:17 AM, said:

I?d like to see more younger players bought in and an emphasis on raising our own players such as Clucas and Cooper to bring in big fees.

Neither Cooper or Clucas were brought through the ranks here.....Clucas was signed for a fee from Mansfield and Cooper was signed on a free i think but with a big sell on from Hull i think it was following a good loan spell. The last ones we brought through and sold were probably the likes of Bowery and Darikwa but even they were with the club from a young age, they both signed for us early teens i think.

[60s 70s Spireite]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 22 July 2024 - 10:16 AM, said:

I'm puzzled.

If getting promoted from non league is as easy as this character claims, why did it take his club sixteen years to do it?

Y'know, whilst we're twice champions of this "big boys league"...

PS: I quite supported plucky little underdogs Wales when they had their moment of glory a couple of tournaments ago ..

Including a spectacular fail in 21/22, even after ?2M Hollywood investment, including the ?300k purchase of Ollie Palmer and the no doubt very expensive, in terms of wages, Paul Mullins.

[tomjoad]

A realistic aim includes ignoring the input ao a Welsh troll and trusting Cook.
As for defence and attack, if gossip about 3 out on loan two permanent including a centre back..(not who you may expect) with replacements coming in,maybe be then can our Welsh expert (ex pert drip under pressure) Comment.
Let's see what happens in the coming days.

[Mr Mercury]

gordon_brittas, on 22 July 2024 - 10:17 AM, said:

I think I said it would take 3 years for us to get up. The preseason friendlies have kind of solidified that now. There are too many players in our squad that don?t have that quality to step us up a level. It will take at least 3 transfer windows to move half of these players on.

I?d like to see more younger players bought in and an emphasis on raising our own players such as Clucas and Cooper to bring in big fees.

Not knocking Cook or the club for one moment, getting out the National League was a monumental effort, but we are in for a massive shock if we think we will walk this league with the squad we have. We won?t.

Why does 3 preseason friendly results solidify your claim that it would take 3 years to get up?

[Goku]

Mr Mercury, on 22 July 2024 - 12:40 PM, said:

Why does 3 preseason friendly results solidify your claim that it would take 3 years to get up?

When you're an overreactive softie you can justify anything

[FORZA AZZURRI]

tomjoad, on 22 July 2024 - 12:22 PM, said:

A realistic aim includes ignoring the input ao a Welsh troll and trusting Cook.
As for defence and attack, if gossip about 3 out on loan two permanent including a centre back..(not who you may expect) with replacements coming in,maybe be then can our Welsh expert (ex pert drip under pressure) Comment.
Let's see what happens in the coming days.

Exactly what I was told Saturday and yes if true a big departure.

[tomjoad]

A Grim one!

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

60s 70s Spireite, on 22 July 2024 - 10:43 AM, said:

Including a spectacular fail in 21/22, even after ?2M Hollywood investment, including the ?300k purchase of Ollie Palmer and the no doubt very expensive, in terms of wages, Paul Mullins.

After decades of varying degrees of obscurity his modest outfit have not only been flung into the public eye, but have enjoyed back-to-back promotion thanks to Hollywood vanity.

However he spends his summer trolling our forum.

We can only wonder what damage Town must've inflicted on this is sad little character at some past point...

[Fit as a Nelson]

FORZA AZZURRI, on 22 July 2024 - 01:13 PM, said:

Exactly what I was told Saturday and yes if true a big departure.

Well for it to be a big departure it?d have to be Grimes, which I can?t see happening at all. You wouldn?t class either of Williams or Palmer as big departures and it?s obviously not Dunkley.

[Westbars Spireite]

Spill the beans then. What are the rumours?

[Fit as a Nelson]

Westbars Spireite, on 22 July 2024 - 02:05 PM, said:

Spill the beans then. What are the rumours?

Khan in will be one, probably oldaker out

[tomjoad]

Hobson Oldaker and one other on loan..

New Centre half to replace our captain Strange maybe...a goalie from Everton...

Tuesday mentioned for confirmation.
But then again all well founded gossip

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