[JonB]

Assistant manager and previous caretaker manager Mike Dodds to take charge until the end of the season and then they will look longer term. Probably the right option as it'll be difficult to get it right this time of the season.

Holmesc1, on 19 February 2024 - 03:14 PM, said:

Now confirmed, whilst he did not get fans onside he was hardly given much of a chance, something seriously up there, mowbray should never have gone

Wife and Father in law are big Sunderland fans so i see and hear a lot about them. There was more to the Mowbray thing than just on the pitch etc, he very nearly left in the summer over some disagreement which they managed to sort. They do have this long term plan of the types of players they are trying to sign that will hopefully be sold on in the future for good profit and at times its maybe gone a bit far. They've ended up this season with a very youthful side especially up front that has cost them and some fans havent been happy with it. Beale's appointment was a crap one from the start especially after other names were linked etc that were much better, he's not been well liked at most places hes been and a few bits he's done off the field havent helped him at Sunderland. In a way its probably best he's gone sooner and the club have realised it wasnt working.

[Holmesc1]

JonB, on 19 February 2024 - 03:32 PM, said:

Assistant manager and previous caretaker manager Mike Dodds to take charge until the end of the season and then they will look longer term. Probably the right option as it'll be difficult to get it right this time of the season.


Wife and Father in law are big Sunderland fans so i see and hear a lot about them. There was more to the Mowbray thing than just on the pitch etc, he very nearly left in the summer over some disagreement which they managed to sort. They do have this long term plan of the types of players they are trying to sign that will hopefully be sold on in the future for good profit and at times its maybe gone a bit far. They've ended up this season with a very youthful side especially up front that has cost them and some fans havent been happy with it. Beale's appointment was a crap one from the start especially after other names were linked etc that were much better, he's not been well liked at most places hes been and a few bits he's done off the field havent helped him at Sunderland. In a way its probably best he's gone sooner and the club have realised it wasnt working.

I too have alot of family and friends that support sunderland and it seems they never learn duff managerial appointments and high turnover of managers has cost the club dearly over the years

[Holmesc1]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 17 February 2024 - 07:33 AM, said:

Our last few seasons have proven there's a wealth of UK talent in the lower leagues.

Why the constant need to look abroad....?

Spot on. We also hear of folk banging on saying there should be more bame managers, what about the severe lack of english managers

[calvin plummers socks]

Holmesc1, on 19 February 2024 - 06:10 PM, said:

Spot on. We also hear of folk banging on saying there should be more bame managers, what about the severe lack of english managers

Perhaps they aren’t good enough?

[JonB]

Holmesc1, on 19 February 2024 - 06:10 PM, said:

Spot on. We also hear of folk banging on saying there should be more bame managers, what about the severe lack of english managers

There had been a host of younger English managers got jobs recently at the likes of Oxford, Millwall, Plymouth etc. That said I’d rather they got a guy in from abroad than keep recycling the likes of warnock and co.

[Holmesc1]

calvin plummers socks, on 19 February 2024 - 06:19 PM, said:

Perhaps they aren’t good enough?

Or maybe because it seems more cool to get a continental in. Makes me wonder where they rake these guys up from , work with agents on the continent

[Holmesc1]

JonB, on 19 February 2024 - 06:26 PM, said:

There had been a host of younger English managers got jobs recently at the likes of Oxford, Millwall, Plymouth etc. That said I’d rather they got a guy in from abroad than keep recycling the likes of warnock and co.

True but alot of those from abroad seem to have no experience of english leagues as players, coaches or managers. Can work in premier league but a league 1/2 club getting some random continental guy often never ends well

[calvin plummers socks]

Holmesc1, on 19 February 2024 - 08:54 PM, said:

Or maybe because it seems more cool to get a continental in. Makes me wonder where they rake these guys up from , work with agents on the continent

“Raked up” ? You don’t think a club owner / chairman/ board does research before employing a manager?

[Goku]

Chairmen appointing foreign managers because it’s cool 😂 absolute thicko man

[60s 70s Spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 19 February 2024 - 09:16 PM, said:

“Raked up” ? You don’t think a club owner / chairman/ board does research before employing a manager?

Looking at the consistent and constant sackings -err…No.

[Mr Mercury]

60s 70s Spireite, on 19 February 2024 - 09:39 PM, said:

Looking at the consistent and constant sackings -err…No.

I seem to remember someone criticising appointing James Rowe saying with his record he shouldn’t have been appointed here.

[Holmesc1]

60s 70s Spireite, on 19 February 2024 - 09:39 PM, said:

Looking at the consistent and constant sackings -err…No.

So very true. Only need to look at sunderland, beale was on a hiding to nowt from day one but the true issue is the owners and there flaeed recruitment policies

Goku, on 19 February 2024 - 09:18 PM, said:

Chairmen appointing foreign managers because it’s cool 😂 absolute thicko man

Yeah whatever

[calvin plummers socks]

60s 70s Spireite, on 19 February 2024 - 09:39 PM, said:

Looking at the consistent and constant sackings -err…No.

There are 23 teams in a league - do you expect them all to win the league?

Any appointment is a gamble- from football manager l, to MP to teacher etc etc

Holmesc1, on 19 February 2024 - 10:06 PM, said:

flaeed

Say what?

(Ah flawed)!!

This post has been edited by calvin plummers socks: 19 February 2024 - 10:15 PM

[Johnnyspireite7]

calvin plummers socks, on 19 February 2024 - 09:16 PM, said:

“Raked up” ? You don’t think a club owner / chairman/ board does research before employing a manager?

Dean Saunders, Gary Caldwell, Dave Rushbury, Chris McMenemy, John Sheridan (second time around)....in my lifetime.

[60s 70s Spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 19 February 2024 - 10:14 PM, said:

There are 23 teams in a league - do you expect them all to win the league?

There’s either 20 or 24 in our top 5 leagues.
I don’t, but apparently owners do. Hence, after supposed deep research, managers are sacked after a dozen or so games.

[calvin plummers socks]

Johnnyspireite7, on 19 February 2024 - 10:20 PM, said:

Dean Saunders, Gary Caldwell, Dave Rushbury, Chris McMenemy, John Sheridan (second time around)....in my lifetime.

You’ll have to speak to Croot to explain some of those!

[Holmesc1]

60s 70s Spireite, on 19 February 2024 - 10:21 PM, said:

There’s either 20 or 24 in our top 5 leagues.
I don’t, but apparently owners do. Hence, after supposed deep research, managers are sacked after a dozen or so games.

True. Someones got to finish bottom and alot of these chairman dont realise that hence why you see some teams going through 3 managers a season.

[Siberian Spireite]

Holmesc1, on 19 February 2024 - 10:06 PM, said:

So very true. Only need to look at sunderland, beale was on a hiding to nowt from day one but the true issue is the owners and their flawed recruitment policies

Beale seems to agree: https://twitter.com/...926259285364740

[Holmesc1]

Siberian Spireite, on 20 February 2024 - 06:46 PM, said:

Beale seems to agree: https://twitter.com/...926259285364740

Not sure how legit that all is but sure seems they have a flawed transfer policy akin to mike ashley where they dont want to sign senior pro’s, seem a sort of club that want some puppet/yes man. Some evil stuff about michael beale online, feel sorry for bloke

[JonB]

Holmesc1, on 20 February 2024 - 07:04 PM, said:

Not sure how legit that all is but sure seems they have a flawed transfer policy akin to mike ashley where they dont want to sign senior pro’s, seem a sort of club that want some puppet/yes man. Some evil stuff about michael beale online, feel sorry for bloke

Not sure the transfer policy is that flawed, could do with a decent striker but since it’s started they’ve been promoted from league 1, made the championship playoffs and on the brink of the playoffs this season. They’ve also got clubs looking at numerous players including potentially trebling their money on Jack Clarke.

Don’t go looking at what qpr and rangers fans say about Beale if what’s online currently bothers you.

This post has been edited by JonB: 20 February 2024 - 07:26 PM