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#14501 User is offline   Misnomer 

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Posted 29 August 2023 - 07:48 PM

View Postdalekpete, on 29 August 2023 - 07:30 PM, said:

The first stat is from the British Heart Foundation, the latter from WHO.

However I have to note that you are almost twenty times more likely to die in a road traffic accident if you are vaccinated! (The adult vaccine rate is 95%.)


Have you got links to these studies, Pete?
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Posted 29 August 2023 - 08:06 PM

View PostMisnomer, on 29 August 2023 - 07:48 PM, said:

Have you got links to these studies, Pete?

I will correct and say there is no evidence of increased deaths from heart disease after the vaccine although there is some very low level indication of Mild Myocarditis.

Despite working in Covid testing for a while and being briefed regularly, as well as being a "qualified" Covid Officer, I don't go back to the academic papers.

This is the account from the BHF: https://www.bhf.org....-you-be-worried
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Posted 29 August 2023 - 08:20 PM

What you actually said was:

People who have had covid, including with mild symptoms, are 40% more likely to develop cardiovascular disease and five times more likely to die during the 18 months afterwards.
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Posted 29 August 2023 - 08:21 PM

View Postdalekpete, on 29 August 2023 - 08:06 PM, said:

I will correct and say there is no evidence of increased deaths from heart disease after the vaccine although there is some very low level indication of Mild Myocarditis.

Despite working in Covid testing for a while and being briefed regularly, as well as being a "qualified" Covid Officer, I don't go back to the academic papers.

This is the account from the BHF: https://www.bhf.org....-you-be-worried

Tbh the way the WHO conducted a totally inadequate rushed investigation lasting nothing but a matter of days into whether the virus was leaked from a Wuhan lab to appease China I would not believe too much of anything they say about the virus.
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Posted 29 August 2023 - 08:24 PM

In the 1930s we had Chesterfield matches postponed due to outbreaks of smallpox.

When I was at school I was vaccinated against this disease. With the exception of rare local outbreaks, smallpox has been eradicated.

However when there is an outbreak the WHO outlines the following potential serious side effects:

Heart problems (including myocarditis and pericarditis)
Swelling of the brain or spinal cord
Problems with the vaccination site blister, including infection
Spreading the virus to other parts of the body or to another person
Severe allergic reaction after vaccination
Accidental infection of the eye (may cause swelling of the cornea, causing watery, painful eyes and blurred vision, scarring of the cornea, and blindness)

I don't know of any sensible person who rejects the smallpox vaccine.
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Posted 29 August 2023 - 08:50 PM

View Postdalekpete, on 29 August 2023 - 08:24 PM, said:

In the 1930s we had Chesterfield matches postponed due to outbreaks of smallpox.

When I was at school I was vaccinated against this disease. With the exception of rare local outbreaks, smallpox has been eradicated.

However when there is an outbreak the WHO outlines the following potential serious side effects:

Heart problems (including myocarditis and pericarditis)
Swelling of the brain or spinal cord
Problems with the vaccination site blister, including infection
Spreading the virus to other parts of the body or to another person
Severe allergic reaction after vaccination
Accidental infection of the eye (may cause swelling of the cornea, causing watery, painful eyes and blurred vision, scarring of the cornea, and blindness)

I don't know of any sensible person who rejects the smallpox vaccine.

How long did the small pox vaccine take to develop and how long was it tested before it was authorised to use, compared to the covid vaccine, and how more serious a disease was smallpox to catch for the general population compared to Covid?
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Posted 29 August 2023 - 08:59 PM

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How long did the small pox vaccine take to develop and how long was it tested before it was authorised to use, compared to the covid vaccine, and how more serious a disease was smallpox to catch for the general population compared to Covid?


I don’t think Edward Jenner was on the payroll of any billion dollar pharmaceutical companies when he invented it either.
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Posted 29 August 2023 - 09:09 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 29 August 2023 - 08:50 PM, said:

How long did the small pox vaccine take to develop and how long was it tested before it was authorised to use, compared to the covid vaccine, and how more serious a disease was smallpox to catch for the general population compared to Covid?

The Covid-19 vaccine was developed using the work around other coronaviruses such as sars and mers that had established a blueprint for future vaccines. The messenger RNA for Covid-19 was universaly shared and there was a colaborative effort with many companies working on non-profit terms.
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Posted 29 August 2023 - 09:22 PM

View Postdalekpete, on 29 August 2023 - 09:09 PM, said:

The Covid-19 vaccine was developed using the work around other coronaviruses such as sars and mers that had established a blueprint for future vaccines. The messenger RNA for Covid-19 was universaly shared and there was a colaborative effort with many companies working on non-profit terms.

Whether an “off the shelf vaccine” or not I think it’s fair to say it had nowhere near the rigorous testing and development that other main stream vaccines do.
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Posted 29 August 2023 - 09:36 PM

View PostMr Mercury, on 29 August 2023 - 08:50 PM, said:

How long did the small pox vaccine take to develop and how long was it tested before it was authorised to use, compared to the covid vaccine, and how more serious a disease was smallpox to catch for the general population compared to Covid?

To be fair the small pix vaccine was developed decades ago- and mapping of the genetic codes of virus is now able to done in months, where it used to take years.


Once you have the genome map and the map of T cell or Y cell receptors your 90% there.


The tech for this has advanced so much in the last 50 years its almost inconceivable and time to develop antidotes isn’t comparable
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Posted 29 August 2023 - 09:40 PM

Granted the technical and scientific know how is years ahead now, but the nuts and bolts human trials never had the time for the covid vaccines that they should have!
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Posted 29 August 2023 - 09:45 PM

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Granted the technical and scientific know how is years ahead now, but the nuts and bolts human trials never had the time for the covid vaccines that they should have!




That’s exactly what’s becoming apparent in the ongoing Covid enquiry that’s not being covered at all by any mainstream media outlets.

Anybody would think they don’t actually want the general public to know the true facts.

Why do you think that is?
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Posted 29 August 2023 - 09:47 PM

1000 years ago, one third of Europe was wiped out by plague

100 years ago millions of Europeans were killed by “Spanish Flu” more than died in the Graf war!


70 years ago smallpox was wiped out.

3 years ago covid was a serious reseated that killed people who had heart and breathing problems.

2!years ago a genome map of the virus had been produced and a vaccine followed.

This year the deaths from covid are thousands not millions globally.


It’s not difficult to understand that as medical tech advances so does treatment.
M of course one or two of f bobs boards finest will say sheep etc, but would yo take these people seriously?
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Posted 29 August 2023 - 10:27 PM

It’s not 1 or 2 Bobs Board members who are using phrases like ‘sheep’ and ‘programmed’ though is it.

It’s billions of people globally who are finally waking up to the true facts and the realisation that they’ve become victims to the biggest scam in history.

Many people worldwide had this dangerous poison injected into their bodies, not because they wanted to stay healthy and avoid catching Convid, it was because they wanted to keep their jobs and go abroad on holiday.

And I’m not taking the p*** out of all the programmed sheep on Bobs Board either who fell for lies and propaganda , I’ve got friends and family who got duped, we all have, fortunately most of mine were in-laws but that’s not the point.

The amount of coercion to the general public to have these jabs was immense, it was a total blackmail job and the lockdowns were completely ridiculous and made no sense at all apart from to the powers that be that used them to control and divide society which is still apparent today.

Government shutting schools for the best part of a year, threatening innocent citizens with criminal charges if they dared to go out, creating a mental health crisis that’s now so huge it’s worse than the actual epidemic itself, people unable to see their GPs, elderly people unable to see their loved ones, lining up to get into supermarkets and then following arrows like gullible buffoons, vital operations getting cancelled and people dying of cancer because they’re unable to get vital treatment due to this complete and utter scam.

And still 3 years later people are still arguing and defending the tyrants who enforced this ridiculous turmoil on society for their own evil gains.

The likes of Town Fan, Wooden Spoon, Iseles1, Earl of Chesterfield, Spiritetool and all the rest of the programmed sheep are very fortunate they weren’t born Turkeys because they’d be wishing it was Christmas every day.
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Posted 29 August 2023 - 10:34 PM

View PostManfred Archie Mac Gerbil, on 29 August 2023 - 10:27 PM, said:

It’s not 1 or 2 Bobs Board members who are using phrases like ‘sheep’ and ‘programmed’ though is it.

It’s billions of people globally who are finally waking up to the true facts and the realisation that they’ve become victims to the biggest scam in history.

Many people worldwide had this dangerous poison injected into their bodies, not because they wanted to stay healthy and avoid catching Convid, it was because they wanted to keep their jobs and go abroad on holiday.

And I’m not taking the p*** out of all the programmed sheep on Bobs Board either who fell for lies and propaganda , I’ve got friends and family who got duped, we all have, fortunately most of mine were in-laws but that’s not the point.

The amount of coercion to the general public to have these jabs was immense, it was a total blackmail job and the lockdowns were completely ridiculous and made no sense at all apart from to the powers that be that used them to control and divide society which is still apparent today.

Government shutting schools for the best part of a year, threatening innocent citizens with criminal charges if they dared to go out, creating a mental health crisis that’s now so huge it’s worse than the actual epidemic itself, people unable to see their GPs, elderly people unable to see their loved ones, lining up to get into supermarkets and then following arrows like gullible buffoons, vital operations getting cancelled and people dying of cancer because they’re unable to get vital treatment due to this complete and utter scam.

And still 3 years later people are still arguing and defending the tyrants who enforced this ridiculous turmoil on society for their own evil gains.

The likes of Town Fan, Wooden Spoon, Iseles1, Earl of Chesterfield, Spiritetool and all the rest of the programmed sheep are very fortunate they weren’t born Turkeys because they’d be wishing it was Christmas every day.


Provide a source for your claimes so we can all review
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Posted 30 August 2023 - 06:18 AM

View PostManfred Archie Mac Gerbil, on 29 August 2023 - 10:27 PM, said:

It’s not 1 or 2 Bobs Board members who are using phrases like ‘sheep’ and ‘programmed’ though is it.

It’s billions of people globally who are finally waking up to the true facts and the realisation that they’ve become victims to the biggest scam in history.

Many people worldwide had this dangerous poison injected into their bodies, not because they wanted to stay healthy and avoid catching Convid, it was because they wanted to keep their jobs and go abroad on holiday.

And I’m not taking the p*** out of all the programmed sheep on Bobs Board either who fell for lies and propaganda , I’ve got friends and family who got duped, we all have, fortunately most of mine were in-laws but that’s not the point.

The amount of coercion to the general public to have these jabs was immense, it was a total blackmail job and the lockdowns were completely ridiculous and made no sense at all apart from to the powers that be that used them to control and divide society which is still apparent today.

Government shutting schools for the best part of a year, threatening innocent citizens with criminal charges if they dared to go out, creating a mental health crisis that’s now so huge it’s worse than the actual epidemic itself, people unable to see their GPs, elderly people unable to see their loved ones, lining up to get into supermarkets and then following arrows like gullible buffoons, vital operations getting cancelled and people dying of cancer because they’re unable to get vital treatment due to this complete and utter scam.

And still 3 years later people are still arguing and defending the tyrants who enforced this ridiculous turmoil on society for their own evil gains.

The likes of Town Fan, Wooden Spoon, Iseles1, Earl of Chesterfield, Spiritetool and all the rest of the programmed sheep are very fortunate they weren’t born Turkeys because they’d be wishing it was Christmas every day.


Governments (multiple - around the world, of all persuasions).

But a security guard in skeggy knows best.

Cool.
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Posted 30 August 2023 - 06:21 AM

He posts the same sh** as my 40-something speed-addicted uncle. Everyone’s a sheep (unless you unquestioningly believe everything spouted from your leading conspiracy theorist, that makes you a truth warrior).
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Posted 30 August 2023 - 07:59 AM

View PostWooden Spoon, on 29 August 2023 - 10:34 PM, said:

Provide a source for your claimes so we can all review

There wont be one. Whilst some bad decisions were made by the powers that be and jesus any other party would have made mistakes too but if this was a scam then it was not just the british government in on it but governments across the globe, and why were they scamming us for a laugh, yeah whatever, its all just conspiracey theory tosh either folk trolling or been totally deluded
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Posted 30 August 2023 - 08:37 AM

View PostMr Mercury, on 29 August 2023 - 09:40 PM, said:

Granted the technical and scientific know how is years ahead now, but the nuts and bolts human trials never had the time for the covid vaccines that they should have!


Good to see you’re an expert on vaccinations as well as everything else.
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Posted 30 August 2023 - 08:45 AM

View PostMr Mercury, on 29 August 2023 - 09:40 PM, said:

Granted the technical and scientific know how is years ahead now, but the nuts and bolts human trials never had the time for the covid vaccines that they should have!


Good to see you’re an expert on vaccinations as well as everything else.
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