[Bonnyman]

And the biggest liar faucci was was brewing the disease in Wuhan,he should be placed in a gas chamber.

[Arnold Tabbs]

Bonnyman, on 06 March 2023 - 12:25 PM, said:

And the biggest liar faucci was was brewing the disease in Wuhan,he should be placed in a gas chamber.

You should be banned from the forum forever.

[Goku]

grim

[Bonnyman]

animal, on 06 March 2023 - 12:45 PM, said:

You should be banned from the forum forever.

Why ,he probably created a disease in a lab that killed hundreds of thousands of people then lied out his back teeth,he is American they have the death penalty over there

[calvin plummers socks]

Bonnyman, on 06 March 2023 - 12:25 PM, said:

And the biggest liar faucci was was brewing the disease in Wuhan,he should be placed in a gas chamber.

Oh wow- that’s low

[isleaiw1]

You can always rely on a football forum for your science updates on a world crisis, much more knowledgable than the scientists...

If less careful with their choice of words, which would have been out of place in the hugely anti semitic Corbyn's Labour...

[mr. smith]

isleaiw1, on 06 March 2023 - 03:29 PM, said:

You can always rely on a football forum for your science updates on a world crisis, much more knowledgable than the scientists...

If less careful with their choice of words, which would have been out of place in the hugely anti semitic Corbyn's Labour...

really?

[PontePete]

https://twitter.com/...zwVGbzYK-eAFNYA

https://twitter.com/...zwVGbzYK-eAFNYA

So…….anyone still getting their boosters? 😳

[Search & Destroy]

PontePete, on 30 March 2023 - 12:02 PM, said:

https://twitter.com/...zwVGbzYK-eAFNYA

https://twitter.com/...zwVGbzYK-eAFNYA

So…….anyone still getting their boosters? 😳

Ambulance chasers asking on behalf of “dozens” who claim to have been affected by the AZ vaccine

Dozens

[Search & Destroy]

PontePete, on 30 March 2023 - 12:02 PM, said:

https://twitter.com/...zwVGbzYK-eAFNYA

https://twitter.com/...zwVGbzYK-eAFNYA

So…….anyone still getting their boosters? 😳

Ambulance chasers asking on behalf of “dozens” who claim to have been affected by the AZ vaccine

Dozens

[PontePete]

Joe Quigley is dynamite, on 30 March 2023 - 04:16 PM, said:

Ambulance chasers asking on behalf of “dozens” who claim to have been affected by the AZ vaccine

Dozens

So you’re going to keep going for yours then? Crack on 😂😂

By the way, why did they suddenly stop giving the AstraZeneca jab completely?

This post has been edited by PontePete: 30 March 2023 - 05:56 PM

[dart in the crossbar]

valemadness, on 12 March 2020 - 12:59 PM, said:

From W.H.O.

The most common symptoms of COVID-19 are fever, tiredness, and dry cough. Some patients may have aches and pains, nasal congestion, runny nose, sore throat or diarrhea. These symptoms are usually mild and begin gradually. Some people become infected but don’t develop any symptoms and don't feel unwell. Most people (about 80%) recover from the disease without needing special treatment. Around 1 out of every 6 people who gets COVID-19 becomes seriously ill and develops difficulty breathing. Older people, and those with underlying medical problems like high blood pressure, heart problems or diabetes, are more likely to develop serious illness. People with fever, cough and difficulty breathing should seek medical attention.

You can reduce your chances of being infected or spreading COVID-19 by taking some simple precautions:

Regularly and thoroughly clean your hands with an alcohol-based hand rub or wash them with soap and water.
Why? Washing your hands with soap and water or using alcohol-based hand rub kills viruses that may be on your hands.
Maintain at least 1 metre (3 feet) distance between yourself and anyone who is coughing or sneezing.
Why? When someone coughs or sneezes they spray small liquid droplets from their nose or mouth which may contain virus. If you are too close, you can breathe in the droplets, including the COVID-19 virus if the person coughing has the disease.
Avoid touching eyes, nose and mouth.
Why? Hands touch many surfaces and can pick up viruses. Once contaminated, hands can transfer the virus to your eyes, nose or mouth. From there, the virus can enter your body and can make you sick.
Make sure you, and the people around you, follow good respiratory hygiene. This means covering your mouth and nose with your bent elbow or tissue when you cough or sneeze. Then dispose of the used tissue immediately.
Why? Droplets spread virus. By following good respiratory hygiene you protect the people around you from viruses such as cold, flu and COVID-19.
Stay home if you feel unwell. If you have a fever, cough and difficulty breathing, seek medical attention and call in advance. Follow the directions of your local health authority.
Why? National and local authorities will have the most up to date information on the situation in your area. Calling in advance will allow your health care provider to quickly direct you to the right health facility. This will also protect you and help prevent spread of viruses and other infections.
Keep up to date on the latest COVID-19 hotspots (cities or local areas where COVID-19 is spreading widely). If possible, avoid traveling to places – especially if you are an older person or have diabetes, heart or lung disease.
Why? You have a higher chance of catching COVID-19 in one of these areas.

Protection measures for persons who are in or have recently visited (past 14 days) areas where COVID-19 is spreading
Follow the guidance outlined above (Protection measures for everyone)
Self-isolate by staying at home if you begin to feel unwell, even with mild symptoms such as headache, low grade fever (37.3 C or above) and slight runny nose, until you recover. If it is essential for you to have someone bring you supplies or to go out, e.g. to buy food, then wear a mask to avoid infecting other people.
Why? Avoiding contact with others and visits to medical facilities will allow these facilities to operate more effectively and help protect you and others from possible COVID-19 and other viruses.
If you develop fever, cough and difficulty breathing, seek medical advice promptly as this may be due to a respiratory infection or other serious condition. Call in advance and tell your provider of any recent travel or contact with travelers.
Why? Calling in advance will allow your health care provider to quickly direct you to the right health facility. This will also help to prevent possible spread of COVID-19 and other viruses.

It's been a while. One day (week or more) I'll read through this thread. Amongst other things, it's an interesting social commentary over a unique period IMHO. Anyway.

Vale's post was from March 2020. So very early days. The WHO guidance was worldwide. To all governments about how they could help their citizens to keep safe.

At today's Covid enquiry Hunt is reported to have said something of huge significance about the UK government's poor response to Covid. Hunt is reported to have said that there was too much groupthink by the UK government. He is reported to have said that the UK government thought that it had little that it could learn from countries other than the US. And that, the UK should have paid more attention to the leadership provided by the South Korea government.

'World beating' as Johnson kept saying.

There's nothing in the WHO guidance about how the pandemic can be used by a govt to flower some casual racism about other countries, or how to use the pandemic to fill the pockets of friends and family, or how 'Eat out to help out' style populist plans are a good idea.

It was there in black and white. And Hunt's comments begin to expose Johnson's failure.

There's nothing in the WHO guidance that advises that PMs should say one thing and do the other. Ignoring distancing, not wearing masks in hospitals, ignoring laws and advice on gatherings.

The admission by Hunt is a start. Hopefully the enquiry will bring up Hunt's comments when they meet with Hancock, Johnson and Sunak. Maybe they will show up; maybe they will expand upon Hunt's groupthink comment and how they have learnt from it.

Then again.

[dart in the crossbar]

Hancock in front of the committee today. In a show of 'nothing to do with meism' he is reported to have said that the pre-covid pandemic planning was focussed on planning how many body bags would be required. Now I know someone who sat on a pandemic emergency planning committee in the early 2010s. He has an entirely different take on the work of the group that he was a member of.

Hancock is also reported to have said that the world was late in locking down the population. He would seem to be implying that all countries were equalling late in taking this action. In fact Italy began lockdown in February 2020 slightly over 1 month before the UK did so.

Hancock is also reported to have spun some world beatery during his session. He is reported to have said that the WHO reported that the UK was the best prepared country in the world to tackle covid. Odd that, given that the political leadership of the UK failed to provide consistent leadership across almost all of the WHO's aspects quoted by Vale in early 2020.

In summary, Hancock seems to be saying that none of it was his fault but he was given bad advice and the system was at fault.

As far as I can see, Hancock made no mention of groupthink; he also doesn't seem to have been asked to comment on Hunt's observations about it. Which is fairly poor from the committee if true.

[Johnnyspireite7]

dart in the crossbar, on 27 June 2023 - 04:59 PM, said:

Hancock in front of the committee today. In a show of 'nothing to do with meism' he is reported to have said that the pre-covid pandemic planning was focussed on planning how many body bags would be required. Now I know someone who sat on a pandemic emergency planning committee in the early 2010s. He has an entirely different take on the work of the group that he was a member of.

Hancock is also reported to have said that the world was late in locking down the population. He would seem to be implying that all countries were equalling late in taking this action. In fact Italy began lockdown in February 2020 slightly over 1 month before the UK did so.

Hancock is also reported to have spun some world beatery during his session. He is reported to have said that the WHO reported that the UK was the best prepared country in the world to tackle covid. Odd that, given that the political leadership of the UK failed to provide consistent leadership across almost all of the WHO's aspects quoted by Vale in early 2020.

In summary, Hancock seems to be saying that none of it was his fault but he was given bad advice and the system was at fault.

As far as I can see, Hancock made no mention of groupthink; he also doesn't seem to have been asked to comment on Hunt's observations about it. Which is fairly poor from the committee if true.

Typical Tory denial of responsibility.

[Manfred Archie Mac Gerbil]

Saw someone else collapse earlier, another guy who looked a lot younger than me, looked fit and healthy, playing with his kids, next thing he’s in the recovery position and carted off in the meat wagon, quite likely brown bread by now like the rest of em.


Quick question for everyone:


If these Covid vaccinations aren’t causing all these millions of sudden heart attacks and blood clots then what’s causing it?


PS Is anyone on here seriously considering the next round of booster jabs?


I’ve genuinely never seen as much sudden death in my life, I think since those vaccines became available most of us know a few people who’ve ‘died suddenly’ and unexpectedly and it must be quite frightening for those of you who obeyed the rules and followed the media narrative.


I think the coroners office need to make the deceased ‘vaccine status’ available for anyone whose died suddenly and unexpectedly, it’s certainly in the public interests.

[Search & Destroy]

Manfred Archie Mac Gerbil, on 29 August 2023 - 06:15 PM, said:

Saw someone else collapse earlier, another guy who looked a lot younger than me, looked fit and healthy, playing with his kids, next thing he’s in the recovery position and carted off in the meat wagon, quite likely brown bread by now like the rest of em.


Quick question for everyone:


If these Covid vaccinations aren’t causing all these millions of sudden heart attacks and blood clots then what’s causing it?


PS Is anyone on here seriously considering the next round of booster jabs?


I’ve genuinely never seen as much sudden death in my life, I think since those vaccines became available most of us know a few people who’ve ‘died suddenly’ and unexpectedly and it must be quite frightening for those of you who obeyed the rules and followed the media narrative.


I think the coroners office need to make the deceased ‘vaccine status’ available for anyone whose died suddenly and unexpectedly, it’s certainly in the public interests.

As nearly everyone had the vaccine then it stands to reason that virtually all people who died suddenly and unexpectedly will have had the vaccine?

[dalekpete]

Manfred Archie Mac Gerbil, on 29 August 2023 - 06:15 PM, said:

Saw someone else collapse earlier, another guy who looked a lot younger than me, looked fit and healthy, playing with his kids, next thing he’s in the recovery position and carted off in the meat wagon, quite likely brown bread by now like the rest of em.


Quick question for everyone:


If these Covid vaccinations aren’t causing all these millions of sudden heart attacks and blood clots then what’s causing it?


PS Is anyone on here seriously considering the next round of booster jabs?


I’ve genuinely never seen as much sudden death in my life, I think since those vaccines became available most of us know a few people who’ve ‘died suddenly’ and unexpectedly and it must be quite frightening for those of you who obeyed the rules and followed the media narrative.


I think the coroners office need to make the deceased ‘vaccine status’ available for anyone whose died suddenly and unexpectedly, it’s certainly in the public interests.

People who have had covid, including with mild symptoms, are 40% more likely to develop cardiovascular disease and five times more likely to die during the 18 months afterwards. There is no evidence that the rate of heart disease increases with the vaccine. As well as couple of people who died, I know of several people who had long-term effects from Covid including one who had heart damage. For balance, I also know of one person who had what seems to be an auto-immune response to the vaccine.

[Misnomer]

dalekpete, on 29 August 2023 - 07:19 PM, said:

People who have had covid, including with mild symptoms, are 40% more likely to develop cardiovascular disease and five times more likely to die during the 18 months afterwards. There is no evidence that the rate of heart disease increases with the vaccine. As well as couple of people who died, I know of several people who had long-term effects from Covid including one who had heart damage. For balance, I also know of one person who had what seems to be an auto-immune response to the vaccine.

Please evidence the first and second claims. And I don't mean via the BBC; I mean proper, substantiated, peer reviewed articles....

[dalekpete]

Misnomer, on 29 August 2023 - 07:21 PM, said:

Please evidence the first and second claims. And I don't mean via the BBC; I mean proper, substantiated, peer reviewed articles....

The first stat is from the British Heart Foundation, the latter from WHO.

However I have to note that you are almost twenty times more likely to die in a road traffic accident if you are vaccinated! (The adult vaccine rate is 95%.)

[Wooden Spoon]

Manfred Archie Mac Gerbil, on 29 August 2023 - 06:15 PM, said:

Saw someone else collapse earlier, another guy who looked a lot younger than me, looked fit and healthy, playing with his kids, next thing he’s in the recovery position and carted off in the meat wagon, quite likely brown bread by now like the rest of em.


Quick question for everyone:


If these Covid vaccinations aren’t causing all these millions of sudden heart attacks and blood clots then what’s causing it?


PS Is anyone on here seriously considering the next round of booster jabs?


I’ve genuinely never seen as much sudden death in my life, I think since those vaccines became available most of us know a few people who’ve ‘died suddenly’ and unexpectedly and it must be quite frightening for those of you who obeyed the rules and followed the media narrative.


I think the coroners office need to make the deceased ‘vaccine status’ available for anyone whose died suddenly and unexpectedly, it’s certainly in the public interests.

I know a couple of people who died from Covid, and one colleague at work who was off for months and was quite unwell from long covid


I don’t know anyone who died suddenly after having the vaccination