[60s 70s Spireite]

born in 1866, on 25 August 2022 - 10:55 PM, said:

A contract is legally confidential. Nobody is permitted to reveal contents without other party's agrement. So how does anybody know how much your new job pays?
Instead of posting a random quote from an annonymous person claiming to be a law firm. Try a law firm that represents clubs in employment matters.

https://www.mills-re...gerial-sackings

Because disclosure would be in the terms of the settlement agreement.
Your law firm says:
In some cases, managers might not have clauses in their contracts that provide they have a duty to mitigate any loss suffered as a consequence of the termination of their employment. This can lead to a scenario where a sacked manager is paid off, say, the remaining 2 years of their contract then gets another job a short time later, meaning it adds up as something of a windfall.

Note ‘in some cases’ - not never.
So in fact your quoted law firm is effectively saying ‘take our advice, and your club won’t be stitched up with paying up a contract and then seeing your former employee walk straight into another job.’

By the way, for reference, the law firm I was quoting was Bloomsbury Square Employment Law.

This post has been edited by 60s 70s Spireite: 25 August 2022 - 11:05 PM

[JonB]

Seems the bookies were right and Alex Neil is leaving Sunderland for Stoke. Must be chucking a decent wedge at him and the time it’s taken to sort today he was tapped up via his agent prior to them sacking the other bloke yesterday.

[Paragon of Virtue]

There's a decent job there at Sunderland for someone, they seem to have turned things around after some horrible years.

[JonB]

Paragon of Virtue, on 26 August 2022 - 02:30 PM, said:

There's a decent job there at Sunderland for someone, they seem to have turned things around after some horrible years.

Problem is Alex Neil played a big part in that in the short time he was there!!

[born in 1866]

60s 70s Spireite, on 25 August 2022 - 10:59 PM, said:

Because disclosure would be in the terms of the settlement agreement.
Your law firm says:
In some cases, managers might not have clauses in their contracts that provide they have a duty to mitigate any loss suffered as a consequence of the termination of their employment. This can lead to a scenario where a sacked manager is paid off, say, the remaining 2 years of their contract then gets another job a short time later, meaning it adds up as something of a windfall.

Note ‘in some cases’ - not never.
So in fact your quoted law firm is effectively saying ‘take our advice, and your club won’t be stitched up with paying up a contract and then seeing your former employee walk straight into another job.’

By the way, for reference, the law firm I was quoting was Bloomsbury Square Employment Law.

You cannot put in a contract something that will put you in breach of a legally binding document.
That's like teminating the contract of your r&d manager and telling him he has to come back with the secrets of his new firm or we won't pay you your settlement.

There's a reason why employers want it to remain confidential and they don't want it out in the open, especially with competitors.

I worked with employment solicitors for 8 years and I learnt quite a lot about employment law and contracts during that time and Bloomsbury was one of them, as our company was London based, we used them quite often.
On a side note, I was in their office when the bus was blown up on 7/7 200 yards away

[60s 70s Spireite]

born in 1866, on 26 August 2022 - 04:34 PM, said:

You cannot put in a contract something that will put you in breach of a legally binding document.
That's like teminating the contract of your r&d manager and telling him he has to come back with the secrets of his new firm or we won't pay you your settlement.

There's a reason why employers want it to remain confidential and they don't want it out in the open, especially with competitors.

I worked with employment solicitors for 8 years and I learnt quite a lot about employment law and contracts during that time and Bloomsbury was one of them, as our company was London based, we used them quite often.
On a side note, I was in their office when the bus was blown up on 7/7 200 yards away

Sorry to hear read that last bit.

Going back to your original point-2018 - Louis van Gaal revealed he made Manchester United continue paying up his contract by turning down the Belgium job as an act of "revenge" and says he still blames former players for his Old Trafford exit. This was widely reported.

https://www.espn.co....-united-pay-off

[calvin plummers socks]

Scottie Parker sacked- absolute madness

[s42blue]

calvin plummers socks, on 30 August 2022 - 08:03 AM, said:

Scottie Parker sacked- absolute madness

4 games…Citeh, Arsenal and Liverpool loses. Beat Villa. As you say..madness

[Misnomer]

He'll be fine. Few million payoff and headhunted by other clubs.... it's a tough life for some.

[Sammy Spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 30 August 2022 - 08:03 AM, said:

Scottie Parker sacked- absolute madness

Dyche in?

[JonB]

calvin plummers socks, on 30 August 2022 - 08:03 AM, said:

Scottie Parker sacked- absolute madness

Appears to be more about funds and transfer policy than results. Parker was talking about needing new players etc post match and seems the board disagree.

[spireitetoo]

JonB, on 30 August 2022 - 08:24 AM, said:

Appears to be more about funds and transfer policy than results. Parker was talking about needing new players etc post match and seems the board disagree.

Yea, he seemed to have a pop at the board for lack of backing, basically said they weren't good enough to stop up, the board obviously disagree...

[Sammy Spireite]

JR's predecessor at Fylde, Jim Bentley in at Rochdale.

[Holmesc1]

Crazy now. Still early days for bournmouth, dont recall southampton manger been sacked after both there 9-0 defeats. Probably a fluke result and only 4th such scoreline in league history. So a manager speaking the truth about the board now get the sack straight away?

Sammy Spireite, on 30 August 2022 - 08:47 AM, said:

JR's predecessor at Fylde, Jim Bentley in at Rochdale.

Kept Morecambe going in league for many years on ****** all

[calvin plummers socks]

Scottie Parker sacked- absolute madness

Why do posts sometimes appear twice?

This post has been edited by calvin plummers socks: 30 August 2022 - 09:10 AM

[Misnomer]

JFH will be on the verge....

[gordon_brittas]

Misnomer, on 30 August 2022 - 05:34 PM, said:

JFH will be on the verge....

I cannot believe how little quality that Burton squad has, IMO they will probably drop straight down the National League if they go down this season.

[Holmesc1]

Quaker, on 30 August 2022 - 03:38 PM, said:

Scunthorpe looking for a new manager. Just sacked Keith Hill

Totally no shock at all, no one last long there now. Another badly ran club using managers as scapegoats

[Comeonyouirons]

calvin plummers socks, on 30 August 2022 - 08:03 AM, said:

Scottie Parker sacked- absolute madness

Entirely his own making
By now 4 games in they should have cemented their inevitable Champions League finishing position
Harry Redknapp surely won’t be able to resist throwing his hat in the ring
And Scotty Parker replaces Gerrard at Villa and is sacked again before the season is out