[Westbars Spireite]

James Rowe is dynamite, on 08 May 2022 - 07:28 AM, said:

Top of the league playing in front of big crowds with a great squad


Best side in the league by a country mile

I reckon we’d have got some decent applications from young hungry managers

That could interviewed as well as Rowe

We’ll never know will we

TRUST THE TRUST

Are Fylde in the play-offs? You should close the circle and get yourself there to meet the man himself.

[Blue5]

DIFH, on 08 May 2022 - 03:05 PM, said:

He had the time to bring in a couple of loanees if we believe what we were told by him but it’s strange we left it to the final day to get someone in. Strange goings on all round.

Where clubs are in receipt of grant/loan monies, the NL have to approve new signings. Given the cashflow situation at the time, I don't think we would have received approval from the NL to sign any players.

[Exharboroughspireite]

My humble opinion is that the players do not want to play for him. The constant change in formations and personnel don’t help either.

[DIFH]

Blue5, on 08 May 2022 - 03:15 PM, said:

Where clubs are in receipt of grant/loan monies, the NL have to approve new signings. Given the cashflow situation at the time, I don't think we would have received approval from the NL to sign any players.

Why were we scrating at the eleventh hour then?
Simply doesn’t add up

[dim view]

DIFH, on 08 May 2022 - 03:55 PM, said:

Why were we scrating at the eleventh hour then?
Simply doesn’t add up

Because we were offered a £500,000 cash injection?

[LondonBlue]

dim view, on 08 May 2022 - 03:57 PM, said:

Because we were offered a £500,000 cash injection?

Loan

[DerbySpireite59]

Exharboroughspireite, on 08 May 2022 - 03:29 PM, said:

My humble opinion is that the players do not want to play for him. The constant change in formations and personnel don’t help either.

They players might well not want to play for Cookie, but they sure as hell want to win promotion for themselves. Imho.

[jack bauer]

Exharboroughspireite, on 08 May 2022 - 03:29 PM, said:

My humble opinion is that the players do not want to play for him. The constant change in formations and personnel don’t help either.

hmmm, dunno, rowe was constantly changing the team when he was here, even when he didn't have to so not sure i can go along with that theory. has there been a "constant" change in formations? i think he started following the 3412, then when more injuries hit went to his favoured 4231 (ish) system, and has in recent weeks gone back to the 3412.

[Spireiteboy155]

Nobody can say that PC is to blame for the current debacle, however he is certainly not without any blame either.

League 1 and 2 tactics with non-league players will not work.

Stockport and Wrexham are where they are for 2 reasons. Obviously money is a major part, but an equally important part is having a manager that knows non-league: knows how it works, knows what is needed to win non-league games and knows how to get out of this hell hole.

We simply don’t have a manager like that.

[jack bauer]

Spireiteboy155, on 08 May 2022 - 09:48 PM, said:

Nobody can say that PC is to blame for the current debacle, however he is certainly not without any blame either.

League 1 and 2 tactics with non-league players will not work.

Stockport and Wrexham are where they are for 2 reasons. Obviously money is a major part, but an equally important part is having a manager that knows non-league: knows how it works, knows what is needed to win non-league games and knows how to get out of this hell hole.

We simply don’t have a manager like that.

i think you are right to an extent, without looking it up i don't know if phil parkinson is hugely experienced at this level, but his tactics when in the league were always basic.
can you football your way out of this league? with the best players perhaps so but you need good players to do it. perhaps cook should take some time this summer to chat to his former captain ian evatt on how to get the job done, evo did this league with barrow... barrow, when you look back that was a remarkable acheivement,.

[DIFH]

Spireiteboy155, on 08 May 2022 - 09:48 PM, said:

Nobody can say that PC is to blame for the current debacle, however he is certainly not without any blame either.

League 1 and 2 tactics with non-league players will not work.

Stockport and Wrexham are where they are for 2 reasons. Obviously money is a major part, but an equally important part is having a manager that knows non-league: knows how it works, knows what is needed to win non-league games and knows how to get out of this hell hole.

We simply don’t have a manager like that.

But we have had a full team of injuries for the majority of his tenure. That’s why we’re bickering now.

[jack bauer]

DIFH, on 08 May 2022 - 09:58 PM, said:

But we have had a full team of injuries for the majority of his tenure. That’s why we’re bickering now.

but some people just don't want to see that fact dave, they just want to put the boot in on cook and watch us sack another manager and start again.

[Bobby Darling]

1978blue, on 08 May 2022 - 11:45 AM, said:

The change at Barnet was actually Rowe taking Miller off and bringing Whittle on at half time. That was the game changer , he set that first goal up for Kabby. Rowe making that decision won us that game. Some of Cook's decisions have baffled me especially the decision not to change things against Solihull after the sending off.

Or Rowe frequently picked Miller before Whittle? Why on earth did he do that? Whittle can play wing back, Miller can’t. I asked Whittle at Curzon why Rowe didn't prefer him and he appeared as mystified as me but said that’s how it is with managers. Don’t say Rowe didn’t make bad decisions.

[Oldtimer]

Spireiteboy155, on 08 May 2022 - 09:48 PM, said:

Nobody can say that PC is to blame for the current debacle, however he is certainly not without any blame either. '

He's not to blame but not without blame. So, what is it, is he to blame or isn't he ??


League 1 and 2 tactics with non-league players will not work.

Jeez !! It's not just lge 1 tactics it's league 2 now were they employ special tactics to win games


Stockport and Wrexham are where they are for 2 reasons. Obviously money is a major part, but an equally important part is having a manager that knows non-league: knows how it works, knows what is needed to win non-league games and knows how to get out of this hell hole.

Admittedly Dave Challinor is a non league stalwart but I think this is Parkinson's first foray into non league management


We simply don’t have a manager like that.

Personally I think most, if no all, of the managers in this league would happily swap their squad for the one we possess. Injuries have decimated our season but isn't that when astute managers show their capabilities and overcome

[essexspireman]

We should have stuck with Evatt

[lindave]

jack bauer, on 08 May 2022 - 10:00 PM, said:

but some people just don't want to see that fact dave, they just want to put the boot in on cook and watch us sack another manager and start again.

[lindave]

If we fail to make even the POs then it's down to JAMES ROWE what a planner. The injury jinx has been horrendous again for the past 3 seasons. Johnson lifted his team up for the game against us, time for PC to do the same and get a bit nasty with some of the players who are not giving the shirt their All. Torquay gave it their all and played some decent football, our lot had 894 loud fans cheering them on and still couldn't lift my little finger.

[Search & Destroy]

lindave, on 09 May 2022 - 07:25 AM, said:

If we fail to make even the POs then it's down to JAMES ROWE what a planner. The injury jinx has been horrendous again for the past 3 seasons. Johnson lifted his team up for the game against us, time for PC to do the same and get a bit nasty with some of the players who are not giving the shirt their All. Torquay gave it their all and played some decent football, our lot had 894 loud fans cheering them on and still couldn't lift my little finger.

Exactly JR is to blame

Those two losses in the 27 games is really hurting us

[Goku]

James Rowe is dynamite, on 09 May 2022 - 07:47 AM, said:

Exactly JR is to blame

Those two losses in the 27 games is really hurting us

He's clearly a talented manager, and I wish he he had kept his nose clean. I was one of the first on the Rowe bandwagon, from his first couple of interviews I said yep, that's my man, he's going to take us out of this league. But your continual refusal to even countenance the possibility that he did something which could be deemed a sackable offence is just... odd.

His head was going, by the way, as shown vs Aldershot but I think he would've found it again had he not... y'know... been so horny.

This post has been edited by Goku: 09 May 2022 - 07:59 AM

[DerbySpireite59]

James Rowe is dynamite, on 09 May 2022 - 07:47 AM, said:

Exactly JR is to blame

Those two losses in the 27 games is really hurting us

No need for the sarcasm.

Danny was in charge for games 24-27, not James. So let's focus on games 1-23.

It was all the draws in the first 23 that hurt us.

Those fans, who can see the bigger picture, knew that we'd had an easy run of fixtures up to that point.

Just 8 out if his 23 games were against Top 11 teams, meaning 12 of the remaining 21 were against them, with double headers against Stockport and Notts looming.

Many fans simply got ahead of themselves, just like Grimsby's did after the first 12 games.

I think we would still have finished somewhere between 3rd and 7th anyway.