[calvin plummers socks]

bucko, on 07 May 2022 - 05:56 PM, said:

Be careful as you might upset some of the Cookie can't do anything wrong brigade.🤣🤣🤣🤣

I will say it again , he is clueless at this level ( and hasn't been the 1st whose had success at a higher level that struggled)

At this level you need players who are athletes, can cover the ground quickly, physically strong and play to a pattern that suits the 10 outfield players.

True that - so they should be training like athletes (which they aren’t)

[DIFH]

May be we are reeping the training routines of JR

[DIFH]

Cum on u blues, on 07 May 2022 - 06:39 PM, said:

Are you winding me up or serious ?
In a season-defining week he p*sses off during working hours (presumably with the agreement of the board !!)
No wonder the players aren’t motivated
Unbelievable that this sort of thing can be allowed to happen
And the board has a lot of questions to answer if it’s true

It was mid week, we played Monday and he’s entitled to a day off especially when we are travelling to Torquay on Friday. Come on lads he’s entitled to a break.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

bucko, on 07 May 2022 - 05:56 PM, said:

Be careful as you might upset some of the Cookie can't do anything wrong brigade.🤣🤣🤣🤣

I will say it again , he is clueless at this level ( and hasn't been the 1st whose had success at a higher level that struggled)

At this level you need players who are athletes, can cover the ground quickly, physically strong and play to a pattern that suits the 10 outfield players.

Who were the takers and quick players under Rowe?

[Cum on u blues]

He can have a long break after the season’s ended. Surely the most important and immediate priority is to get the troops ready for the penultimate game ?
I wonder if I live in a different world to others - for god’s sake our season is at stake and he’s prancing around a Spanish stadium
Says it all about his real commitment to the players band this club
I ask the question again which is maybe even more important for the future of our club: where was the Board on this decision ?

[calvin plummers socks]

bucko, on 07 May 2022 - 05:56 PM, said:

Be careful as you might upset some of the Cookie can't do anything wrong brigade.🤣🤣🤣🤣

I will say it again , he is clueless at this level ( and hasn't been the 1st whose had success at a higher level that struggled)

At this level you need players who are athletes, can cover the ground quickly, physically strong and play to a pattern that suits the 10 outfield players.

True that - so they should be training like athletes (which they aren’t)

[dtp]

Valley Blues, on 07 May 2022 - 06:37 PM, said:

‘At this level’ you need players that are athletes, cover ground quickly, physically strong and play to a pattern?

FFS.

Have you seen Klopp’s Liverpool side yet?

What a daft question.

No, I've not seen them in real life only on telly but, for what it matters, I know of someone who has.

Now, FFS, to use your term, have you worked out how much Klopp's Liverpool side cost a week to run?

[bucko]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 07 May 2022 - 07:55 PM, said:

Who were the takers and quick players under Rowe?

Under Rowe the players knew what there roles were within the team system of play, and we were top of the league by following that.

Cook has come in and totally disrupted everything within the setup, and as a result we've gone from top to 7th, the table doesn't lie, he's been a disappointment in this 2nd spell.

[Search & Destroy]

Come on guys!

TRUST THE TRUST

[Search & Destroy]

Top of the league playing in front of big crowds with a great squad


Best side in the league by a country mile

I reckon we’d have got some decent applications from young hungry managers

That could interviewed as well as Rowe

We’ll never know will we

TRUST THE TRUST

[Oldtimer]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 07 May 2022 - 06:18 PM, said:

Mate - if you think my opinion is "foolish", at least have the courage to say so directly instead of "hiding under" a sideways swipe.

And I stand by it - Cook's pursuing a style of play that the squad can't deliver.

That's a mistake - which is a criticism of him - but the question fans now need to know is will he be given a summer to sort it or not...

No hiding under anything matey, simply remembered the comment but had no intention of looking back to see who said it and when, it was immaterial to my post. At times he's asking the players to do what they're not completely comfortable with, I agree. To wrap it up and give it a cosy nonsensical title such as league one football was what I found amusing.

[SocraticCFC]

Voiceofjoe, on 07 May 2022 - 04:34 PM, said:

I'd hope that the agreement with Cook was "Ill come 'til end of season and then we'll see where we are in regards next season and a long term contract "
Which hopefully the board have the bottle to say "Thanks, but no thanks"
They surely can't give Cook a go next season and risk giving him a budget to waste. For whatever reason he looks lost, and void of ideas.
If somehow we fluke the playoffs I'd still want him replaced with a hungry young manager.

The chap at Gateshead - prime target

[Wooden Spoon]

bucko, on 07 May 2022 - 05:56 PM, said:

Be careful as you might upset some of the Cookie can't do anything wrong brigade.🤣🤣🤣🤣

I will say it again , he is clueless at this level ( and hasn't been the 1st whose had success at a higher level that struggled)

At this level you need players who are athletes, can cover the ground quickly, physically strong and play to a pattern that suits the 10 outfield players.

Performances were dropping before JR left. We’d gone much more direct, we even signed Quigly! The first half at Barnet was awful, and the game turned with Kabby scoring early first half. Had Kabby not been on the pitch would that have such an emphatic win?


Stockport was a good performance for sure, but we still had Kabby in the starting 11.


We assembled a squad to play 3-5-2. We’ve lost key players like Clarke and Kabby - had many other injuries and at times been forced to play an unfit Asante up top on his own…..I’m not convinced that Webb would have done much better under the circumstances



I’m not saying Cook shouldn’t be free from blame but the seeds were sown before he arrived

[1978blue]

Wooden Spoon, on 08 May 2022 - 11:37 AM, said:

Performances were dropping before JR left. We’d gone much more direct, we even signed Quigly! The first half at Barnet was awful, and the game turned with Kabby scoring early first half. Had Kabby not been on the pitch would that have such an emphatic win?


Stockport was a good performance for sure, but we still had Kabby in the starting 11.


We assembled a squad to play 3-5-2. We’ve lost key players like Clarke and Kabby - had many other injuries and at times been forced to play an unfit Asante up top on his own…..I’m not convinced that Webb would have done much better under the circumstances



I’m not saying Cook shouldn’t be free from blame but the seeds were sown before he arrived

The change at Barnet was actually Rowe taking Miller off and bringing Whittle on at half time. That was the game changer , he set that first goal up for Kabby. Rowe making that decision won us that game. Some of Cook's decisions have baffled me especially the decision not to change things against Solihull after the sending off.

[Wooden Spoon]

1978blue, on 08 May 2022 - 11:45 AM, said:

The change at Barnet was actually Rowe taking Miller off and bringing Whittle on at half time. That was the game changer , he set that first goal up for Kabby. Rowe making that decision won us that game. Some of Cook's decisions have baffled me especially the decision not to change things against Solihull after the sending off.

Yes your right, whittle coming on added some much needed movement in midfield


It still needed Kabby on the pitch to score though

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Wooden Spoon, on 08 May 2022 - 11:37 AM, said:

Performances were dropping before JR left. We’d gone much more direct, we even signed Quigly! The first half at Barnet was awful, and the game turned with Kabby scoring early first half. Had Kabby not been on the pitch would that have such an emphatic win?


Stockport was a good performance for sure, but we still had Kabby in the starting 11.


We assembled a squad to play 3-5-2. We’ve lost key players like Clarke and Kabby - had many other injuries and at times been forced to play an unfit Asante up top on his own…..I’m not convinced that Webb would have done much better under the circumstances



I’m not saying Cook shouldn’t be free from blame but the seeds were sown before he arrived

This.

And the 'League One football' comment was simply a reference to players who deliver a seven or eight out of ten on a regular basis.

Consistency, in other words.

As often said we've some capable of nines on occasion, yet on many others they struggle to string three passes together.

The rigidity of Rowe's approach - allied to Tshimanga's presence - compensated for that fact, however Cook trying to play with more freedom and the oft quoted injury situation exposes such shortcomings.

Okay, there're those who just wanna chuck playground names around or celebrate 'cos they share the morals of the ex regime. Surely the rest of us are capable of dissecting why a three times title winning manager has fallen so flat, though...

This post has been edited by The Earl of Chesterfield: 08 May 2022 - 12:04 PM

[Westbars Spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 07 May 2022 - 07:38 PM, said:

True that - so they should be training like athletes (which they aren’t)

I thought you’d stated you don’t know what they do?

[born in 1866]

bucko, on 07 May 2022 - 06:45 PM, said:

I would say you need to be a more physical type player , than a easy on the eye player at this level, you don't seem to get away with it, whilst the higher up the pyramid you go , the physical side of the game isn't as prevalent.

Mobility wise, why isn't the likes of Khan given more pitch time??

Whelan ran the game in 1st half against Wrexham, but he persists with Weston ( who I do like but his legs have gone this season)

Cookie has destroyed Millers confidence imo

Asante, (granted not the same player and needs pre season to get back to his best) he plays out wide, wasted imo. Get him down the middle with a partner ,not Quigley or Denton on there own with little support like he's been playing.

You've managed to contradict your own opening statement saying you need to be more physical then complaining Khan and Wheelan are not getting game time when they are far from physical.

[calvin plummers socks]

Westbars Spireite, on 08 May 2022 - 12:15 PM, said:

I thought you’d stated you don’t know what they do?

Not the minutiae but general

[DIFH]

Voiceofjoe, on 07 May 2022 - 07:13 PM, said:

No we don't, we need to know what contract he's got (if any) and can we get rid without us having to pay him off. Then we need to know they'll do a proper interview process next time.

All this about it'll be better next season when he's got his own players - what a crock of ....

If the managers any good then, what better than to take control of a team that's already top of the table ? He's a manager, for chrissake, if he didn't think the players were good enough (a team that was best in the league when he took over) - then B****Y manage the problem, get some better players in.

The lad who scored the first goal today - best player on the pitch - on loan from QPR. How many loanee's have we had this season, yet we sit around bemoaning our injury list.

Looks like we've all been had for the fools, he's stealing a (very large) wage at the minute, and he's brought his mate along to keep him company.

I guess Johnson gets these loanees with the guarantee they will play when fit.

I doubt his wage is on par with JR but there’s a worry what happens after 10 games and he’s committed us to signings. He’s not got the backing of most fans so we are going to have to give him the backing of things start tough.

He had the time to bring in a couple of loanees if we believe what we were told by him but it’s strange we left it to the final day to get someone in. Strange goings on all round.