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#41 User is offline   jack bauer 

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Posted 29 January 2022 - 11:39 PM

 rodney, on 29 January 2022 - 11:21 PM, said:

Sorry, he didn’t do well against Aldershot!

he should have scored with that header on around 10 mins, that goes in... well who knows, but today he was absent, surface looked good on tv today btw, could we have played more to feet, in the end doesn't matter we won.
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Posted 30 January 2022 - 12:09 AM

 rodney, on 29 January 2022 - 11:38 PM, said:

Yes I was there…. As I have been for most of the games this season. He didn’t do well last week and he didn’t do well tonight. Fact. And what concerns me most is that Asante was dropped tonight for him and played in a bizarre position last week. Please tell me why I’m wrong, assuming you were there.

By the way great win tonight and quality goal and support

I think you are wrong about his performance v Aldershot. I wouldn't know about tonight, but in the first half v Aldershot I had a very good view of his efforts from my seat in the kop overlooking the goalmouth. In that first half, Quigley battled well for long balls, and gave the Aldershot defenders a hard time, despite the ref singling him out for censure after almost every 50/50 challenge. He had a couple of good chances that he could have scored from, with one header in particular that he really should have buried. I think a new player deserves to have a few games in an unfamiliar team before sweeping judgement is passed. Some of the negative and derogatory comments on this Board are both hasty and uncalled for IMO.
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Posted 30 January 2022 - 12:18 AM

 sophocles, on 29 January 2022 - 10:19 PM, said:

Completely agree. Quigley did well against Aldershot despite being unfairly targeted by the ref. Not seen today's performance, but going from radio commentary, most of our players were poor, so give him a chance to settle in and show what he can do.

Unfairly targeted? IMO the ref got most things right against Quigley, he was warned twice and should have booked him sooner. Quigley was shocking.
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Posted 30 January 2022 - 07:37 AM

 dtp, on 29 January 2022 - 10:02 PM, said:

I agree Quigley struggled today but the service to him was poor indeed. Then, when you mention being shorter for headers that's exactly how I saw big Tom last Saturday when he came on. And, last Saturday I didn't think Quigley had to bad a game at all just that the ref thought every time he was in a 50:50 tussle it was a foul against him.

Let's give the lad a chance, he had hardly trained with the team last week then, on Monday, the guy who signed him barely 4 days earlier got suspended and the club and supporters thrown into turmoil.

Without Khan, Miller, and King, last night was our best 'keep a clean sheet' eleven and Quigley should be judged on his contribution to that rather than his attacking flair, just like every other player on the field. Like Denton, the lad isn't going to create his own chances and I think I counted only one cross in the whole match that was delivered from a dangerous position.All the others were standard pumps up the middle which gave him little chance to shine.

I see some folk on here criticising Kellerman. In my opinion he was excellent, for the team.
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Posted 30 January 2022 - 08:01 AM

 sophocles, on 30 January 2022 - 12:09 AM, said:

I think you are wrong about his performance v Aldershot. I wouldn't know about tonight, but in the first half v Aldershot I had a very good view of his efforts from my seat in the kop overlooking the goalmouth. In that first half, Quigley battled well for long balls, and gave the Aldershot defenders a hard time, despite the ref singling him out for censure after almost every 50/50 challenge. He had a couple of good chances that he could have scored from, with one header in particular that he really should have buried. I think a new player deserves to have a few games in an unfamiliar team before sweeping judgement is passed. Some of the negative and derogatory comments on this Board are both hasty and uncalled for IMO.

That’s why football is great, all about opinions. On this one I think we’ll agree to disagree. The concerning thing for me is him starting ahead of Asante in a forward role. Asante is clearly fit as he played in midfield last week, so I wonder why we aren’t playing him. If it’s a change in style of play to a long ball game I’m worried.
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Posted 30 January 2022 - 08:03 AM

Basically lacks pace mobility strength in the air and touch on the ground. Other than that a great signing!
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Posted 30 January 2022 - 08:11 AM

 rodney, on 30 January 2022 - 08:01 AM, said:

That’s why football is great, all about opinions. On this one I think we’ll agree to disagree. The concerning thing for me is him starting ahead of Asante in a forward role. Asante is clearly fit as he played in midfield last week, so I wonder why we aren’t playing him. If it’s a change in style of play to a long ball game I’m worried.

Agree that a fit Asante is a better player, but our style of football in the last few games has been of no use to our strikers, whoever plays.The Kabby/Kwasi duo should be a potent weapon in this league. Now we just need to find the team combination and style of play to get the best out of them. If we can do that, I think we can win this league.
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Posted 30 January 2022 - 08:15 AM

 dim view, on 30 January 2022 - 07:37 AM, said:

Without Khan, Miller, and King, last night was our best 'keep a clean sheet' eleven and Quigley should be judged on his contribution to that rather than his attacking flair, just like every other player on the field. Like Denton, the lad isn't going to create his own chances and I think I counted only one cross in the whole match that was delivered from a dangerous position.All the others were standard pumps up the middle which gave him little chance to shine.

I see some folk on here criticising Kellerman. In my opinion he was excellent, for the team.


He should be judged on his contribution to us not conceding a goal? That’s an impressive feat of mental gymnastics bearing in mind he’s a forward. We didn’t give him much but he didn’t contribute anything either. He can’t hold it up well, he doesn’t win headers, he doesn’t anticipate where the ball will be. This is a dud signing and if people aren’t ready to accept that yet I’m sure they will in a few months time.
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Posted 30 January 2022 - 08:18 AM

I say again. He's blimey Bunkum. Denton is miles better option. The worse signing since Jason Lee.
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Posted 30 January 2022 - 08:23 AM

The thing I can't understand is why sign Quigley when almost to the day we have Tom Denton returning.

Ok he is not able to do 90 mins at the moment but he is at least a proven striker at this level.

I will give him time as we can't make judgement after 2 games and hopefully it will work out, but so far I prefer big Tom.
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Posted 30 January 2022 - 09:31 AM

 jack bauer, on 29 January 2022 - 11:39 PM, said:

he should have scored with that header on around 10 mins, that goes in... well who knows, but today he was absent, surface looked good on tv today btw, could we have played more to feet, in the end doesn't matter we won.

It was a miracle we won, nowhere near earned it ...fwiw
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Posted 30 January 2022 - 09:34 AM

Give the lad a chance. On the performance of the last two games I'm surprised you lot haven't hung Tshimanga out to dry.
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Posted 30 January 2022 - 10:06 AM

 paulwardle, on 30 January 2022 - 08:03 AM, said:

Basically lacks pace mobility strength in the air and touch on the ground. Other than that a great signing!


How do you assess Denton then regarding pace, mobility, strength in the air and touch on the ground?

You see, out of those 4 points I think Quigley is ahead on 3 of them.
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Posted 30 January 2022 - 10:17 AM

He's come into a club, rocked by the manager being suspended and expected to form a partnership with someone who's head has likely been turned (and rightly so). In front of an unsettled midfield that's not creating many opportunities. But hey let's ignore all that and tear him apart.
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Posted 30 January 2022 - 10:33 AM

 Nitrous Oxide, on 30 January 2022 - 10:17 AM, said:

He's come into a club, rocked by the manager being suspended and expected to form a partnership with someone who's head has likely been turned (and rightly so). In front of an unsettled midfield that's not creating many opportunities. But hey let's ignore all that and tear him apart.

Don’t think that’s fair on Kabby, To assume his heads been turned, what’s he meant to have done these past couple of games having to play the role of two strikers and getting long **** balls pumped into him.
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Posted 30 January 2022 - 10:35 AM

 Nitrous Oxide, on 30 January 2022 - 10:17 AM, said:

He's come into a club, rocked by the manager being suspended and expected to form a partnership with someone who's head has likely been turned (and rightly so). In front of an unsettled midfield that's not creating many opportunities. But hey let's ignore all that and tear him apart.


How has his head been turned? We'd not had an offer for him if you were to believe what JR recently said.
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Posted 30 January 2022 - 10:42 AM

 Nitrous Oxide, on 30 January 2022 - 10:17 AM, said:

He's come into a club, rocked by the manager being suspended and expected to form a partnership with someone who's head has likely been turned (and rightly so). In front of an unsettled midfield that's not creating many opportunities. But hey let's ignore all that and tear him apart.


Quality. Unfortunately decorum is in short supply in a board filled with panic and emotion with what's gone off. Wrong tactics made Quigley look worse and we played into Eastleigh,s hands. They pressed us and had big presence at the back. Things we set up to do at the start of the season.
We have not had a settled team all season with injuries and imo Clarke is a big miss in a creative and pressing combination.
It would be prudent to get that whole filled first before another frontman but maybe that was going to happen until the distraction.
Hope the distraction is concluded soon. Stability is needed and the tone of interview after the match probably was from someone who doesn't know how his future is going to pan out.

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Posted 30 January 2022 - 10:44 AM

 Blue95, on 30 January 2022 - 10:33 AM, said:

Don’t think that’s fair on Kabby, To assume his heads been turned, what’s he meant to have done these past couple of games having to play the role of two strikers and getting long **** balls pumped into him.


Are they the same long balks being pumped up to him that are being pumped up to Quigley or are they different ones?
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Posted 30 January 2022 - 10:46 AM

Pressing is so important
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Posted 30 January 2022 - 10:47 AM

 Nitrous Oxide, on 30 January 2022 - 10:17 AM, said:

He's come into a club, rocked by the manager being suspended and expected to form a partnership with someone who's head has likely been turned (and rightly so). In front of an unsettled midfield that's not creating many opportunities. But hey let's ignore all that and tear him apart.


All this has nothing to do with his touch, his anticipation, his shielding of the ball etc we know it’s tough time currently but he should be able to show prowess in factors such as the ones I’ve listed and so far, imo he has not. There’s a reason he’s had 48 clubs and it ain’t cos he’s a whiz kid. Also no idea why you think Tshimanga’s head has been turned.
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