[JonB]

We weren’t very good, the ref was woeful and the pitch was crap which partly led to how crap we were. Asante playing 10 didn’t work and he should probably have had Mandeville in there behind Asante and Kabby with Quigley entering the game later on.

You could see the players had no confidence in the pitch as it bobbled all over towards them which led to them taking the east option a lot to make sure they weren’t caught out.

[azul]

metallilad, on 22 January 2022 - 06:58 PM, said:

Negative, negative, negative.
Every post is negative.

Rowe agrees with you, hardly acknowledged any negatives from that game, apart from the pitch being unacceptable

[Valley Blues]

Valley Blues, on 21 January 2022 - 07:36 PM, said:

I can see Grimes being left out tomorrow.
I personally like him but it sounds like he was off it at Maidenhead and I get the impression that he is a bit of a fall guy for Rowe.

Not even on the bench…….

[SuperJackyLester]

If rowe can't see what is wrong then he needs to get his head out the sand and admit he got it wrong. We need a manager who will admit what he has done.

[Valley Blues]

SuperJackyLester, on 22 January 2022 - 07:08 PM, said:

If rowe can't see what is wrong then he needs to get his head out the sand and admit he got it wrong. We need a manager who will admit what he has done.

You aren’t happy with our manager?????

[rodney]

SuperJackyLester, on 22 January 2022 - 07:08 PM, said:

If rowe can't see what is wrong then he needs to get his head out the sand and admit he got it wrong. We need a manager who will admit what he has done.

And here will be our biggest challenge. The arrogance of an inexperienced manager. He got it wrong today and needs to accept it and move one. Nothing to do with the pitch but the awful team selection

[SuperJackyLester]

Valley Blues, on 22 January 2022 - 07:10 PM, said:

You aren’t happy with our manager?????

I'm very happy with him but when he says we didn't get our just rewards for today's game it tells me he isn't willing to admit that he got it wrong. We didn't deserve anything today so why not come out and admit that. He got it wrong today quite obviously and 4 points from Barnet, maidenhead and aldershot will not get us anywhere near winning the league.

[BilltBigBalls]

Think a good few on here need to take a long good look at themselves. We're not going to win every match this season same as every other club in this league. Slating the manager when things don't go right for us when the fact is were sat bang top of the league , well go give your heads a wobble.

[Humpalumpa]

bucko, on 22 January 2022 - 06:23 PM, said:

I've not been today due to Covid,so won't comment on the performance.

What i did find bemusing was the team selection.

Asante for me should be starting with Tshimanga up top with Mandeville in the 10 role today, and use Quigley or Denton from the bench.
Unless Grimes was injured,then he's been made scapegoat for Tuesday, which I think is also poor.
JR has a reputation that if he falls out with you , it's a long way back , I hope that isn't the case with Grimes, as he's been excellent.

Think it highlights the need for a quality CM to be signed.
With Oyoleke unavailable we have no other player capable of getting there foot on the ball, oh we have (Mccourt) but JR also appears to have bombed him out.

Big Big week coming up, let's hope for some positive news and roll on to Eastleigh
💙💙💙

This is spot on.

Grimes has been superb over the past few weeks, but Rowe has 'previous' for spitting his dummy out if you upset him or he doesnt get his own way.

IMO we didn't really need another CF unless Kabby is on his wayout.

A CM is the position that we need to be signing asap, in the Morsy / Ryan mould.

Asante is a CF not a midfielder or a No 10.

If Denton is staying (not going out on loan) then we didnt need Quigley.

(A previous poster mentions £150k for Quigley, alleged info from a current Chesterfield based Yeovil player, must be Max Hunt ??
or YTFC owner Scott Priestnall who i think is the son of the former Autoworld car dealership owner David Priestnall ?)

Hopefully that fee is totally untrue because thats a total waste of the Chelsea money.

IMO Rowe doesnt know his best team.

Too much tinkering is going on every week, play a settled team, to build some momentum going into the bigger games coming up.

To many points being dropped against teams at the lower end of the division.

Also put the new Frost / pitch covers on the pitch overnight to protect it, dont leave them off !!

[SuperJackyLester]

BilltBigBalls, on 22 January 2022 - 07:17 PM, said:

Think a good few on here need to take a long good look at themselves. We're not going to win every match this season same as every other club in this league. Slating the manager when things don't go right for us when the fact is were sat bang top of the league , well go give your heads a wobble.

Were you there? I am not saying the manage has done a bad job. I am saying today he got it wrong and then refused after the game that he got it wrong. At home we are 8th in the table and 11th in the form table. The manager needs to be able to take criticism and we have a right to not be happy when we see performances that we saw today. The manager blaming the pitch and saying we deserved more is not the right way to go about it.

[rodney]

BilltBigBalls, on 22 January 2022 - 07:17 PM, said:

Think a good few on here need to take a long good look at themselves. We're not going to win every match this season same as every other club in this league. Slating the manager when things don't go right for us when the fact is were sat bang top of the league , well go give your heads a wobble.

No one is slating… just saying that he should come out and admit he got it totally wrong today. I could get into the horrific subs he has made in 3 home games that have cost 6 points but I won’t… You are correct we are top at the half way stage which is great and I hope it continues

And Grimes was dropped after Tuesday…..

[Lincs Spireite]

Look they came with a plan and it worked. They started by trying to upset us by changing sides and kicked toward their fans, and pressed for 30 mins making it difficult to get out of our own half. It worked. Then second half they knew they had a chance of a point so put more men in defence and 2 or 3 men on Kabby. Game plan worked so you have to give them credit for that. Trouble is we don't know how to counter. Our home form has not been anywhere near good enough and we are getting good crowds. My worry is if we don't give them goals to celebrate the crowd numbers will drop because of the frustrating football. I think the ball was in the air more times than the floor today. Hoofball not good enough.

This post has been edited by Lincs Spireite: 22 January 2022 - 07:25 PM

[CFC91]

Rowe has got it wrong today. Everyone knows that

5-2-3 or whatever we started with is not a formation and fudging Asante into midfield was a disaster

Quigley was decent but he made us change our style of play and go long more than we needed too. We’ve score al our goals working the ball out wide and many of Kabongos goals have been as a result. No way we needed to change our style and formation to accommodate Quigley who I think is a last 15 minutes Plan B kinda player

[Norton Blue]

For me a number of changes today led to a lack of cohesion in the side. For whatever reason with a big guy up front we completely change our philosophy and start lumping it. However our success this season is due to a passing game. Our midfield was bypassed for much of the game today. When we started to utilise it we looked more of a threat and created chances.
They came for a draw which was evident after the first 10-15 mins, and played well. First half I thought they worked the ball better in the final 3rd than we did. But our defending was good enough to withstand what they threw at us. Time wasting in the first half was a joke by the shots keeper, as it was by their assistant in the 2nd for which he rightly got booked. Kinsella up to his old tricks feigning injury toward the end of the game, yet got up as if god himself had sent a miracle healer to his aid.

Quigley, looks like he can put it about a bit and looks much more mobile and more of a player than Dents, however I don’t think he was helped by the ref who should be referred to spec savers for not seeing the constant holding, pulling, pushing every time he was near the ball, all he got for his efforts was a yellow card. Should have done much much better with a free header in the first half, decent shot to force a save in the second. He’s had lass than a day with us so bit of a tall ask for him to slot straight in.

Formation was quite attacking on paper, but just didn’t click today. I don’t like Asante dropping that deep and think Mandy should have started over Quigley and sat behind the front two of KT and AA.

Khan had a great 2nd half, really tried to drive the midfield, but was mainly bypassed in the 1st. He’s a great player for this level.

Maguire for me is just too slow on the ball, and needs to move the ball forward quickly, but either doesn’t spot the option, or decides to play square or more often than not backward. V frustrating.

Not sure I can put my finger on it, but JR seems to have a reputation of having hard lines that players can’t cross, as a result decisions are made. Possibly, regarding today, to the detriment of the side.

A very frustrating game to watch and like watching a completely different side that went on such a run and played some good football…. Pressure telling?

[gordon_brittas]

Question I have to ask…

Do we disrespect the opposition to much in this league?

We seem to play some weird formations, bizarre lineups etc, and just because the opposition is near the bottom we expect to steamroller them because of our individual talent.

Aldershot, Maidenhead, Altrincham, Dover, Woking all dire results and all matches where we just took the opposition for granted, paid them no respect and came away disappointed.

[Tha Knows...]

Humpalumpa, on 22 January 2022 - 07:19 PM, said:

This is spot on.

Grimes has been superb over the past few weeks, but Rowe has 'previous' for spitting his dummy out if you upset him or he doesnt get his own way.

IMO we didn't really need another CF unless Kabby is on his wayout.

A CM is the position that we need to be signing asap, in the Morsy / Ryan mould.

Asante is a CF not a midfielder or a No 10.

If Denton is staying (not going out on loan) then we didnt need Quigley.

(A previous poster mentions £150k for Quigley, alleged info from a current Chesterfield based Yeovil player, must be Max Hunt ??
or YTFC owner Scott Priestnall who i think is the son of the former Autoworld car dealership owner David Priestnall ?)

Hopefully that fee is totally untrue because thats a total waste of the Chelsea money.

IMO Rowe doesnt know his best team.

Too much tinkering is going on every week, play a settled team, to build some momentum going into the bigger games coming up.

To many points being dropped against teams at the lower end of the division.

Also put the new Frost / pitch covers on the pitch overnight to protect it, dont leave them off !!

I doubt more than £50k was paid,he wasn't hot property and 150k is massive at this level

[Exharboroughspireite]

Lots of deep analysis on here. Bottom line is Rowe picked the wrong team, changed our tactics, bought a centre forward that we didn’t need and needs now to up his game.

This doesn’t mean i am anti Rowe, just now is the time (like players who suffer a dip in form) he needs to step up and prove his mettle.

I would have really liked the board to say ‘do we really need this centre forward for 2.5 years when we have Payne, Denton, Tyson?’. Is there a little bit of hero worship that needs pulling back in?

[Ollerton Opinion]

JonB, on 22 January 2022 - 07:02 PM, said:

We weren’t very good, the ref was woeful and the pitch was crap which partly led to how crap we were. Asante playing 10 didn’t work and he should probably have had Mandeville in there behind Asante and Kabby with Quigley entering the game later on.

You could see the players had no confidence in the pitch as it bobbled all over towards them which led to them taking the east option a lot to make sure they weren’t caught out.

Excellent post - spot on with everything you said.
The pitch is certainly not our friend and could very well cost us

JonB, on 22 January 2022 - 07:02 PM, said:

We weren’t very good, the ref was woeful and the pitch was crap which partly led to how crap we were. Asante playing 10 didn’t work and he should probably have had Mandeville in there behind Asante and Kabby with Quigley entering the game later on.

You could see the players had no confidence in the pitch as it bobbled all over towards them which led to them taking the east option a lot to make sure they weren’t caught out.

This post has been edited by Ollerton Opinion: 22 January 2022 - 07:53 PM

[Westbars Spireite]

Did we really forget/not bother with the frost covers last night?