[Waller is my hero]

Christ it’s frustrating when you get caught out in games like tonight….dominated the second & nailed on winners sailing back to the summit of the league……BANG, BANG! It’s 2-2

When you see the goals it’s silly mistakes….but if you don’t make mistakes you never learn…..still early in the season…still unbeaten, still in the top 2…it’s always said that 10 games is a good marker to your season…..there’s no easy games in this league

12 points better off than last season, challenging at the top, difficult to beat, scoring goals, and a striker in red hot form.

The game management will improve & we’ll be there at the end

Goal scorers get you goals, defences get you championships…..5 clean sheets in 8 games….let’s enjoy how far we have come & will only get better

Frustrating night… but…..we can’t expect to win every match

P.S their keepers antics at the end were that of an actual C U Next Tuesday

This post has been edited by Waller is my hero: 25 September 2021 - 10:04 PM

[jack bauer]

agree about their keeper, totally embarassing and well played to aaron downes for running on to sort him out, shows we are still a scalp at this level when opposition teams celebrate like they've won the world cup when they get a point at our place.
its very early in the season still and nice to be at that end of the league for once, we're all desperate to get up and losing last minute points just gives you doubt that we are the real deal.
we are not the finished article, i also feel that our strongest 11 is what will make the crucial difference, oyeleke and clarke are big misses before we even begin to talk of asante, those 3 players at full fitness will surely push up the overall levels

[Siberian Spireite]

The big difference between Rowe and previous managers is that you feel he will get the team to learn from this instead of just letting it happen time and time again.

[Waller is my hero]

jack bauer, on 25 September 2021 - 10:26 PM, said:

agree about their keeper, totally embarassing and well played to aaron downes for running on to sort him out, shows we are still a scalp at this level when opposition teams celebrate like they've won the world cup when they get a point at our place.
its very early in the season still and nice to be at that end of the league for once, we're all desperate to get up and losing last minute points just gives you doubt that we are the real deal.
we are not the finished article, i also feel that our strongest 11 is what will make the crucial difference, oyeleke and clarke are big misses before we even begin to talk of asante, those 3 players at full fitness will surely push up the overall levels

We have such a strong squad, it will get us through the season & constantly competing.
D&G are at the top right now but they need to keep that team suspension & injury free…..it’s the teams with the good squads that rise to the top.
Everyone goes on about Wrexham & intrigued how we go against them….but Parkinson is over rated, I think play offs at best

As much as I hate this league, it’s an intriguing one

[jack bauer]

Waller is my hero, on 25 September 2021 - 10:32 PM, said:

We have such a strong squad, it will get us through the season & constantly competing.
D&G are at the top right now but they need to keep that team suspension & injury free…..it’s the teams with the good squads that rise to the top.
Everyone goes on about Wrexham & intrigued how we go against them….but Parkinson is over rated, I think play offs at best

As much as I hate this league, it’s an intriguing one

the slight issue with our squad though is that 2 players (Hollis and Denton) are unlikely to play much of a part, i'm crossing everything that asante's return is issue free (what a boost that will be, him and tschimanga will be a handful for anyone), i think our squad will be good enough for most sides in this league but against the better sides we need our 1st choice 11, torquay haven't started well but they are one of the better sides at this level, manny and clarke today would have made a difference no doubt, they have that extra bit of class you need on such days.

[azul]

Siberian Spireite, on 25 September 2021 - 10:31 PM, said:

The big difference between Rowe and previous managers is that you feel he will get the team to learn from this instead of just letting it happen time and time again.

Well the sitting backed bringing on pressure has happened twice at the the end now. Actually it has happened twice in the final stages of the first half as well, against Barnet and today where we eased off and nearly conceded.

Time we learnt that in football, that a half lasts 45 minutes and not 40 or even 35 minutes

[Rodney's Moustache]

Siberian Spireite, on 25 September 2021 - 10:31 PM, said:

The big difference between Rowe and previous managers is that you feel he will get the team to learn from this instead of just letting it happen time and time again.

Well he's let it happen twice so far.

This post has been edited by Rodney's Moustache: 25 September 2021 - 11:23 PM

[plannerj]

azul, on 25 September 2021 - 10:55 PM, said:

Well the sitting backed bringing on pressure has happened twice at the the end now. Actually it has happened twice in the final stages of the first half as well, against Barnet and today where we eased off and nearly conceded.

Time we learnt that in football, that a half lasts 45 minutes and not 40 or even 35 minutes

It’s time they realised that each half can last 50 minutes, not 45 minutes. Rowe is not to blame in this insurance. He perhaps got the subs wrong. I wouldn’t have replaced Miller, for example. The commentator said that Rowe could be overheard warning that we couldn’t take our foot off the gas against Torquay with their reputation for late come-backs.

[Tha Knows...]

jack bauer, on 25 September 2021 - 10:26 PM, said:

agree about their keeper, totally embarassing and well played to aaron downes for running on to sort him out, shows we are still a scalp at this level when opposition teams celebrate like they've won the world cup when they get a point at our place.
its very early in the season still and nice to be at that end of the league for once, we're all desperate to get up and losing last minute points just gives you doubt that we are the real deal.
we are not the finished article, i also feel that our strongest 11 is what will make the crucial difference, oyeleke and clarke are big misses before we even begin to talk of asante, those 3 players at full fitness will surely push up the overall levels

We still have a defensive weakness. For me Grimes starts ahead of Maguire, we find a more athletic and stronger defensive midfielder than Weston. McCourt Maguire Weston and Mandeville back up players not starting XI

[HoneyTrippa]

Their goalkeeper was out of order inciting and gesturing to the fans after the final whistle - Could have easily had another Ebbsfleet situation on our hands. Luckily enough for us - it didn't happen otherwise could have been facing a possible points reduction and the game could have ended up a whole lot worse than it did. Lets brush ourselves down and move on.

This post has been edited by HoneyTrippa: 26 September 2021 - 07:21 AM

[Tha Knows...]

HoneyTrippa, on 26 September 2021 - 07:20 AM, said:

Their goalkeeper was out of order inciting and gesturing to the fans after the final whistle - Could have easily had another Ebbsfleet situation on our hands. Luckily enough for us - it didn't happen otherwise could have been facing a possible points reduction and the game could have ended up a whole lot worse than it did. Lets brush ourselves down and move on.

There's too many of these juvenile prix at this level. Should be delighted to snatch the point and celebrate with team mates

[azul]

HoneyTrippa, on 26 September 2021 - 07:20 AM, said:

Their goalkeeper was out of order inciting and gesturing to the fans after the final whistle - Could have easily had another Ebbsfleet situation on our hands. Luckily enough for us - it didn't happen otherwise could have been facing a possible points reduction and the game could have ended up a whole lot worse than it did. Lets brush ourselves down and move on.

Surprised people haven’t commented on the keeper hiding the ball to the back of his shirt delaying the kickoff after the equaliser while they got a new ball

[Westbars Spireite]

azul, on 26 September 2021 - 08:27 AM, said:

Surprised people haven’t commented on the keeper hiding the ball to the back of his shirt delaying the kickoff after the equaliser while they got a new ball

I have.

[dtp]

azul, on 26 September 2021 - 08:27 AM, said:

Surprised people haven’t commented on the keeper hiding the ball to the back of his shirt delaying the kickoff after the equaliser while they got a new ball

Surely, the comments should be regarding what the referee failed to do about it.

Our friend "h" likes to mention "cheating" and "time wasting" with regularity but was this "incitement" of both opposition players and fans going unpunished?

[clarevoyant.]

dtp, on 26 September 2021 - 10:00 AM, said:

Surely, the comments should be regarding what the referee failed to do about it.

Our friend "h" likes to mention "cheating" and "time wasting" with regularity but was this "incitement" of both opposition players and fans going unpunished?

Surely there were enough cameras to capture the incident in its full glory. An incident that further devalues the standing of this league. You would think the hierarchy of the league would take retrospective action against such sordid actions, just to regain some integrity. But when you look at history they did nowt when Garrard (BH manager)openly admitted to getting his players to feign injury (cheat) to gain an advantage one does not hold ones breath in the hope that action may be taken.

If however (in the future maybe, see other thread) an 18 year old brandishing a plastic container of beer had retaliated, we all know what the consequences would be.

These are professional people and should be brought to boot for such actions.

Perhaps best to look at the incident as practice for the return of ashmore in a few weeks.

[h again]

dtp, on 26 September 2021 - 10:00 AM, said:

Surely, the comments should be regarding what the referee failed to do about it.

Our friend "h" likes to mention "cheating" and "time wasting" with regularity but was this "incitement" of both opposition players and fans going unpunished?

Don't know why I got drawn into this. I deplore cheating whichever side does it, the problem being that most fans only take exception when it's the opposition doing it.
Their goalkeeper yesterday should certainly get a retrospective red card, though you can hardly bloame the ref for not seeing a hidden ball. About as blatant an example of bringing the game into disrepute as you're ever likely to witness.
The only way to stop the rubbish and give fans the 90 minutes they pay for is to play to a clock which stops every time the ball is out of play. Should have happened years ago, and becomes more necessary with every week that passes and the cheating gets more subtle. Fetching a towel to dry the ball is just slowing down a game in which it should be in our interest to keep up the momentum, and the long throws have become so stereotyped that every opposition in the league knows exactly where they're going to land, wet ball or not.

[azul]

Just watched the highlights, of course BT did everything not to comment on the unsavoury scenes in the final moments. In fact they managed to make Tshmanga look the villain

How the ball got from the back of our net to the back of the tosspot goalies shirt is a miracle, or a training ground move.

This post has been edited by azul: 26 September 2021 - 08:02 PM

[azul]

azul, on 26 September 2021 - 07:46 PM, said:

Just watched the highlights, of course BT did everything not to comment on the unsavoury scenes in the final moments. In fact they managed to make Tshmanga look the villain

How the ball got from the back of our net to the back of the tosspot goalies shirt is a miracle, or a training ground move.

[dim view]

h again, on 26 September 2021 - 06:55 PM, said:

Fetching a towel to dry the ball is just slowing down a game in which it should be in our interest to keep up the momentum, and the long throws have become so stereotyped that every opposition in the league knows exactly where they're going to land, wet ball or not.

Correct. Carline should mix in the very quick long throw when, for example, one of his colleagues can sprint into the 6 yard box to make a 2 v 2 rather than the wait for the boring 8 v 5 in there.

[billyblue67]

Waller is my hero, on 25 September 2021 - 09:47 PM, said:

Christ it’s frustrating when you get caught out in games like tonight….dominated the second & nailed on winners sailing back to the summit of the league……BANG, BANG! It’s 2-2

When you see the goals it’s silly mistakes….but if you don’t make mistakes you never learn…..still early in the season…still unbeaten, still in the top 2…it’s always said that 10 games is a good marker to your season…..there’s no easy games in this league

12 points better off than last season, challenging at the top, difficult to beat, scoring goals, and a striker in red hot form.

The game management will improve & we’ll be there at the end

Goal scorers get you goals, defences get you championships…..5 clean sheets in 8 games….let’s enjoy how far we have come & will only get better

Frustrating night… but…..we can’t expect to win every match

P.S their keepers antics at the end were that of an actual C U Next Tuesday

I would go further than that. He was actually telling supporters to come on the pitch. Surely this should be in the referees report. Is it not incitement? I don't mind people celebrating or even giving some stick back but he seriously crossed the line.