[Wooden Spoon]

Mr Mercury said:

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That's the thing, lots of people are furloughed, less hours etc, but many are still working full time, either in essential jobs, from home or were they can work following social distancing guidelines, these people are still on full income with much less to spend it on, i.e. Holidays, weekends away, days out, eating out, pubs, even your regular weekend football/racing bets etc so there is available expenditure there. It's not a recession, as such, were people have no extra income to spend, it's a recession were people have no available outlet to spend! It's difficult to see how that side of life will pan out!

Fingers crossed, when the lock down is released, that exactly those in the position you describe go out and splurge, giving a massive kick start to the economy

[Mr Mercury]

DEATH, on 23 April 2020 - 09:45 PM, said:

Fingers crossed, when the lock down is released, that exactly those in the position you describe go out and splurge, giving a massive kick start to the economy

I agree, re holidays , leisure, socialising with family and friends etc, but I just don't know how, in the present climate, that can happen!

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[Wooden Spoon]

Good news that they are starting to test the vaccine. Fingers crossed this works.

[Wooden Spoon]

And the testing for it really needs to be ramped up

[plannerj]

CFC91, on 23 April 2020 - 08:31 PM, said:

How are they similar? I’m asking why aren’t we maxing out the capacity for testing? I don’t know the answer hence the question. I’m guessing you don’t know either hence the lack of an answer so I’ll throw it back out there. Why aren’t we?

My friends and family on the front line have said varying things along the lines of ‘haven’t got symptoms, haven’t got time between shifts to queue, the testing centres aren’t local, still working so won’t bother until there’s an antibody’

The only ones that have been tested have been the ones that got ill so maybe that symptomatic of the rest of the country.

Think you’ve taken a very innocent simple question and twisted it into some sort of insinuated dig at my own friends and family on the front line. Tad OTT

Quite how you’ve linked any of the above to Kate Hopkins who isn’t really relevant to anyone or anything I don’t know. If she said it was dark outside I’d still open the curtains to check. an irrelevant nobody who speaks to get people talking about her, so she’s had you hook line and sinker there. Best way for people like that to disappear is for people just ignore and they’ll go away.

Who the hell is Kate Hopkins? Do I need to know?

[azul]

plannerj, on 23 April 2020 - 10:23 PM, said:

Who the hell is Kate Hopkins? Do I need to know?

Some Twitter Troll(op)

I’m sure she was S&Ds Avatar for ages - apologies to Katie if she wasn’t

[Westbars Spireite]

dim view, on 23 April 2020 - 08:09 PM, said:

Never mind all that.

Wor I want to know, on reading that B & Q is reopening nationwide, is how travelling to fetch paint or an angle grinder disk constitutes an essential journey? Have they started selling bog rolls or has B & Q management decided to unilaterally unlock lockdown?

Seriously though, do I get a fine if I tell a copper I am going there?

No you don't. If they're open you're allowed to visit. I drove to Adam's Happy Hens today up Brookside for some food and to support a local business. Could have got everything from One Stop or the Co-op but I didn't even have to get out the car as she put the box in my boot and I was on my way.

[Westbars Spireite]

Mr Mercury, on 23 April 2020 - 09:28 PM, said:

That's the thing, lots of people are furloughed, less hours etc, but many are still working full time, either in essential jobs, from home or were they can work following social distancing guidelines, these people are still on full income with much less to spend it on, i.e. Holidays, weekends away, days out, eating out, pubs, even your regular weekend football/racing bets etc so there is available expenditure there. It's not a recession, as such, were people have no extra income to spend, it's a recession were people have no available outlet to spend! It's difficult to see how that side of life will pan out!

I'm lucky enough (for now) to be in that boat. My monthly credit card bill hasn't been so low for years. Mate of mine was after a hot tub and can't get one any time soon around his area.

[Wooden Spoon]

https://www.bbc.co.u...canada-52407177





Well this surely takes the biscuit

[dim view]

Westbars Spireite, on 23 April 2020 - 10:47 PM, said:

No you don't. If they're open you're allowed to visit. I drove to Adam's Happy Hens today up Brookside for some food and to support a local business. Could have got everything from One Stop or the Co-op but I didn't even have to get out the car as she put the box in my boot and I was on my way.

I can understand being able to buy non essentials if I'm already in a shop for essentials, and even visiting a non essentials shop if it's in the same mall near my parked car, but it's hard to describe B & Q's actions as anything other than an executive decision to ease the lockdown. Perhaps they'll sell out of disinfectant, Trump's new elixir for curing the virus.

[Westbars Spireite]

dim view, on 24 April 2020 - 04:28 AM, said:

I can understand being able to buy non essentials if I'm already in a shop for essentials, and even visiting a non essentials shop if it's in the same mall near my parked car, but it's hard to describe B & Q's actions as anything other than an executive decision to ease the lockdown. Perhaps they'll sell out of disinfectant, Trump's new elixir for curing the virus.

Visiting a bank isn't considered an acceptable reason to leave home yet they were all asked by the government to retain as much of a branch network as possible.

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

CFC91, on 23 April 2020 - 08:31 PM, said:

How are they similar? I’m asking why aren’t we maxing out the capacity for testing? I don’t know the answer hence the question. I’m guessing you don’t know either hence the lack of an answer so I’ll throw it back out there. Why aren’t we?

My friends and family on the front line have said varying things along the lines of ‘haven’t got symptoms, haven’t got time between shifts to queue, the testing centres aren’t local, still working so won’t bother until there’s an antibody’

The only ones that have been tested have been the ones that got ill so maybe that symptomatic of the rest of the country.

Think you’ve taken a very innocent simple question and twisted it into some sort of insinuated dig at my own friends and family on the front line. Tad OTT

Quite how you’ve linked any of the above to Kate Hopkins who isn’t really relevant to anyone or anything I don’t know. If she said it was dark outside I’d still open the curtains to check. an irrelevant nobody who speaks to get people talking about her, so she’s had you hook line and sinker there. Best way for people like that to disappear is for people just ignore and they’ll go away.

Okay, fair enough, apologies for the Hopkins thing. I can understand how no decent person would want any association with her. It's just that when I see Hancock and crew saying there's 'capacity' to test 'X' but suggesting they've only tested 'Y' because folk haven't come forward I smell a rat.

I'd ask a simple question, though; how are the Germans handling tesing? How're the South Koreans? Because they appear to've led the world in doing so meaning we should surely follow their paradigm.

Infact twenty, fifty or a hundred thousand by next week or not we should've been doing that weeks ago...

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

dim view, on 24 April 2020 - 04:28 AM, said:

I can understand being able to buy non essentials if I'm already in a shop for essentials, and even visiting a non essentials shop if it's in the same mall near my parked car, but it's hard to describe B & Q's actions as anything other than an executive decision to ease the lockdown. Perhaps they'll sell out of disinfectant, Trump's new elixir for curing the virus.

Never been able to understand why folk've had finger wagging from the Plod for, say, visiting a park but I've seen blokes continuing to build extensions throughout.

PS: I see medical professionals are now suing the government over the lack of and mixed messages regarding PPE. There're claims some have been pressured into silence over the issue, too. Would one of those builders mentioned be allowed on-site without his hard hat and high viz? So why should it be different for nurses...

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moondog, on 23 April 2020 - 09:16 PM, said:

A mate of my missus husband works at B&Q Sutton in Ashfield he reckons they sold 20 hot tubs today !

How much do they sell for?

How people run their finances never ceases to amaze me. We are in unknown territory with the realistic threat of potential mass unemployment, you would think people would take the opportunity to put some fat on their backs during these uncertain times. No doubt those living in their own little bubbles, happily spending away, are the same individuals criticising the government for not anticipating the worldwide demand for PPE!

[JonB]

moondog, on 23 April 2020 - 09:40 PM, said:

You're right. I'm working from home (although to be honest I'd take furloughing and 80% of pay not to) but the upside is I'm saving a small fortune

We're the same here....both of us still working full time from home yet have a 2 and a half year old to entertain as well as the dog. Some days are a nightmare trying to balance it all without just shoving her in front of the telly whilst we work. Would have been great had one of us been furloughed just to make things easier. Even on 80% pay with what we're saving on not paying nursery, fuel etc we'd be fine. My commute alone, 60 mile round trip to Derby, is a massive saving on fuel as is the near £400 a month for the little ones day and a half at nursery a week.

[Goku]

Edit: deleted, threads moved on since then, ignore

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plannerj, on 23 April 2020 - 10:23 PM, said:

Who the hell is Kate Hopkins? Do I need to know?

If you saw her in an Arabic Wife Market you'd be checking the 'best before'date.

[hilly81]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 24 April 2020 - 06:32 AM, said:

Never been able to understand why folk've had finger wagging from the Plod for, say, visiting a park but I've seen blokes continuing to build extensions throughout.

PS: I see medical professionals are now suing the government over the lack of and mixed messages regarding PPE. There're claims some have been pressured into silence over the issue, too. Would one of those builders mentioned be allowed on-site without his hard hat and high viz? So why should it be different for nurses...

We are supposed to be having a new kitchen started next Monday. Old one ripped out, wall down, decent sized job, should take 2-3 weeks. This obviously isn't going ahead as for a start we cant get in touch with anyone at Howdens to get the kitchen delivered, lock down, all of us at home etc.

My builder has contacted me today saying he can get the kitchen as Howdens are still open and he would like to start on 11th May and I'm not sure what to do. We can separate ourselves from the area so not coming into contact with the builders but should we? It will also be a nightmare with us all at home (Me, wife 2 kids, 4 and 6) and trying to work. But, I appreciate he is keen to go as it is his income, I also really want it doing as our current kitchen is a nightmare. Really not sure what to do. My instinct says go for the beginning of June and see how things are then.

[JonB]

hilly81, on 24 April 2020 - 09:05 AM, said:

We are supposed to be having a new kitchen started next Monday. Old one ripped out, wall down, decent sized job, should take 2-3 weeks. This obviously isn't going ahead as for a start we cant get in touch with anyone at Howdens to get the kitchen delivered, lock down, all of us at home etc.

My builder has contacted me today saying he can get the kitchen as Howdens are still open and he would like to start on 11th May and I'm not sure what to do. We can separate ourselves from the area so not coming into contact with the builders but should we? It will also be a nightmare with us all at home (Me, wife 2 kids, 4 and 6) and trying to work. But, I appreciate he is keen to go as it is his income, I also really want it doing as our current kitchen is a nightmare. Really not sure what to do. My instinct says go for the beginning of June and see how things are then.

I suspect the builder has had similar conversations with a number of potential customers in the hope someone says yes!!