[calvin plummers socks]

When does the £350 Million a week EU saving for NHS kick in?

[Search & Destroy]

Just watched Sky News live from a street in Stockport doing the NHS clap, about 500 people in the street, no social distancing, why SKY would choose to turn up live which would attract folk onto the street to be on television is beyond me.

[calvin plummers socks]

Search and Destroy, on 16 April 2020 - 07:09 PM, said:

Just watched Sky News live from a street in Stockport doing the NHS clap, about 500 people in the street, no social distancing, why SKY would choose to turn up live which would attract folk onto the street to be on television is beyond me.

Because people are stupid- you of all of us should know that ;-)

[Wooden Spoon]

calvin plummers socks said:

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When does the £350 Million a week EU saving for NHS kick in?

At the same time these oafs manage to agree on something.






https://www.theguard...inancial-rescue





https://www.theguard...rus-rescue-plan

[Wooden Spoon]

Blue5, on 16 April 2020 - 07:05 PM, said:

How many football clubs, footballers, owners of big businesses have come under the Coronavirus media spotlight? The same spotlight must have missed the bosses of private care homes and care providers asking for the Government & communities to donate PPE and apparatus for use in their multi-million pound businesses.

I lad I’ve known since school worked in that industry for years, eventually leaving to drive trucks. In his words “it stopped being about care and became all about money”

[Search & Destroy]

I think face masks will form part of the exit plan

[Mr Mercury]

Search and Destroy, on 16 April 2020 - 09:13 PM, said:

I think face masks will form part of the exit plan

Agree, something in th edible point plan regarding supply, just reading between the lines. Also Germany are doing it.

[plannerj]

Search and Destroy, on 16 April 2020 - 09:13 PM, said:

I think face masks will form part of the exit plan

We would be wearing them already if there were enough to go round to meet demand from the NHS. That’s why the Government has been saying they won’t benefit people. Yet another diversion from the truth.

[Search & Destroy]

Just thinking that in my line of work in the motor trade, I don’t work in a showroom but work out of there a couple of days week.

I can easily see a situation where that would form part of a strategy to reopen along with the normal social distancing, disinfecting and hand washing

Also compulsory on public transport etc, early on it was suggested it doesn’t help much in preventing getting infected but it does stop people with the virus from spreading it but if you have something covering your mouth and nose it surely helps

It at least stops you from touching those parts of your face

[Search & Destroy]

plannerj, on 16 April 2020 - 09:41 PM, said:

We would be wearing them already if there were enough to go round to meet demand from the NHS. That’s why the Government has been saying they won’t benefit people. Yet another diversion from the truth.

There is a global shortage

Plus the WHO are not advocating them yet for the public are they?

After another 6 weeks of lockdown maybe the supply will come through

Obviously the frontline should get them first

This post has been edited by Search and Destroy: 16 April 2020 - 09:59 PM

[Nerima Spireite]

Search and Destroy, on 16 April 2020 - 01:06 PM, said:

Teachers are gonna be annoyed if the kids go back, I think they were looking forward to the whole year off, expecting the teaching unions to kick off very shortly

That is utter tripe - at least from my personal POV and experience over here as a teacher. I don’t know exactly how different things are set up over there but over here, the switch to online teaching has been a complete headache. I have a month to learn 4 different systems for each university I work at which store online materials and then making all the materials and tests/assignments so they can be done remotely, a whole new syllabus for each, how to use programs like Zoom I’ve never encountered before, and all stuck indoors with a hyper 5 year old. I’ve taken to getting up at 4am before everyone else is done just to try and fit in as much as possible. I’m definitely not sitting on my backside twiddling my thumbs.

Have you ever considered the maybe a lot of teachers get into the profession because they actually like being with kids and helping them learn?

This post has been edited by Nerima Spireite: 16 April 2020 - 10:30 PM

[Search & Destroy]

Just from speaking to the three I know personally, one junior and two primary

[Wooden Spoon]

Mr Mercury said:

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Also Germany are doing it.

Austria as well

[Nerima Spireite]

Search and Destroy, on 16 April 2020 - 10:43 PM, said:

Just from speaking to the three I know personally, one junior and two primary

And I’m speaking from my own experience. And that of every other teacher I know here.

[Wooden Spoon]

https://www.bbc.co.u...siness-52319576

[fishini]

Search and Destroy, on 16 April 2020 - 10:43 PM, said:

Just from speaking to the three I know personally, one junior and two primary

Probably come from the same mould as you.

[Wooden Spoon]

https://www.bbc.co.u...onment-52318539

[joe]

Search and Destroy, on 16 April 2020 - 06:36 AM, said:

This article doesn’t back up your theory

https://www.google.c...p/idUSKBN1ZX1H3

Sorry I replied to wrong post. Not used to all this posting

This post has been edited by joe: 17 April 2020 - 04:41 AM

[plannerj]

Search and Destroy, on 16 April 2020 - 10:43 PM, said:

Just from speaking to the three I know personally, one junior and two primary

It’s a pity that knowing so many teachers you don’t seem to have learned a lot!

[joe]

isleaiw1, on 16 April 2020 - 10:05 AM, said:

There are a lot of nurses in hospitals who dont work in ITU. Much of their normal work has been scaled back as far as it can be, so they have redeployed those who can be retrained with minimal effort to different front line duties. Would more be good - of course, hence the request for those recently retired to return to work to put more current nurses and docs on the front line

As for the hospital not being needed, that came from a front line consultant who said that the ITU capacity (increased wherever possible with hospitals that existed) had not been exceeded. I dont see a reason to disbelieve him, so no denial from me. You can try and make a story if you want, but from my position (working in London, with access to updates from the emergency authorities for the area that the Excel arena is in) I see no reason to say that the reason it didnt open was a publicity stunt / not enough nurses, whichever you have now settled on.

I don't live in London but visit regularly and my son is an investigative journalist in London. I have 3 nieces and one nephew in London one being a key worker. One of my nieces friends who works in Intensive care is working 12 hour shifts and she virtually has a breakdown when returning home crying and then having to return. We are in a situation where people working in Intensive care are under "unimaginable stress" (not my words). My wife worked in Intensive care during the Markham pit disater. I know it's a long time ago but is difficult to conceive what a unit full of patients is like.
The Nightingale hospital, if it was ever viable, should be mopping up the Corvid19 cases after ventilation but we are sending hundreds of patients who are positive to care homes that do not have appropriate nursing staff or PPE.
By the way you never answered the question about who these people being trained were and what they are being trained for or why they are even been trained when we are hopefully past the peak and managing so well.
Putting politics aside why do you personally think nurses are working 12 hour shifts in intensive care when your a ward sister friend says nurses can soon be upto speed ? Also ask your friend if it is normal practise for ICU staff to work 12 hour shifts.