[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Private or public, Labour or Tory, Johnson or Corbyn...

..every one of these numbers is a tragedy: https://www.msn.com/...ocid=spartanntp

And this is genuinely frightening: https://www.msn.com/...ocid=spartandhp

Seriously, if anyone's of a nervous disposition please ignore this post...

This post has been edited by The Earl of Chesterfield: 08 April 2020 - 03:45 PM

[Search & Destroy]

fishini, on 08 April 2020 - 09:58 AM, said:

Doesn't do much for those who can't afford private in the queue for the same illness. Sacrifice the poor for the rich

Don’t a high proportion of decent jobs give the option of private health care nowadays , company car and private health care?

[CFC91]

Search and Destroy, on 08 April 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

Don’t a high proportion of decent jobs give the option of private health care nowadays , company car and private health care?

We get BUPA, Gym Membership and a few other bits but not company cars.

[Wooden Spoon]

The Earl of Chesterfield said:

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Private or public, Labour or Tory, Johnson or Corbyn...

..every one of these numbers is a tragedy: https://www.msn.com/...ocid=spartanntp

And this is genuinely frightening: https://www.msn.com/...ocid=spartandhp

Seriously, if anyone's of a nervous disposition please ignore this post...

BBC reporting 938 in the last 24 hours. Higher than the figure from sky. It’s appalling.

[Wooden Spoon]

isleaiw1 said:

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when my wife was seriously ill and being treated in ICU by the NHS I was told there was no private option (yes, my employer did provide it and I was paying tax for the benefit so yes I was prepared to use it if it helped save her life).

Thanks for that.

[Search & Destroy]

DEATH, on 08 April 2020 - 04:32 PM, said:

BBC reporting 938 in the last 24 hours. Higher than the figure from sky. It’s appalling.

Jeez, we are Italy, Spain....

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

DEATH, on 08 April 2020 - 04:32 PM, said:

BBC reporting 938 in the last 24 hours. Higher than the figure from sky. It’s appalling.

It's sobering how quickly we adapt.

Flicking through channels last night I found it momentarily disconcerting to see folk shaking hands. Just as crowd scenes have a whole new resonance. Then it's still only a couple of weeks since the dead had names. A back story. Were news.

Now as our friend 'S&D' says it's just an ever growing number. A number moving all too rapidly towards those seen in Italy and Spain.

And though understandable the PM going into intensive care has replaced reports of frontline staff lacking both PPE and anything like enough testing despite government promises.

There'll be some very, very serious questions to be answered when all this is over...

[azul]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 08 April 2020 - 03:42 PM, said:

Private or public, Labour or Tory, Johnson or Corbyn...

..every one of these numbers is a tragedy: https://www.msn.com/...ocid=spartanntp

And this is genuinely frightening: https://www.msn.com/...ocid=spartandhp

Seriously, if anyone's of a nervous disposition please ignore this post...

That is scary, UK record more deaths than Italy, Spain, France and Germany combined, imagine if that really did happen

[Search & Destroy]

If you lock everything down early what happens when the restrictions are lifted?

What happens when restrictions are lifted here?

It just comes back surely

I’m struggling to see the way out of this other than catching it and hoping for the best

[Mr Mercury]

Coronavirus: Police hunt pair who 'licked hands and wiped them on supermarket food'
http://news.sky.com/...t-food-11970683

Maybe, just maybe..some people do deserve all that might come to them, absolute filth!

[Wooden Spoon]

Mr Mercury said:

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Coronavirus: Police hunt pair who 'licked hands and wiped them on supermarket food'
http://news.sky.com/...t-food-11970683

Maybe, just maybe..some people do deserve all that might come to them, absolute filth!

What a pair of bells.



I heard something from a nurse working in a corona virus ward at a London hospital that’s been in the news very recently. I’m not sure I should say anything about her more “medical opinion” but she said don’t go out, don’t even go to the supermarket unless you. absolutely have to, and if you do, thoroughly wash your hands, face etc and change your clothes and wash them immediately.

[Search & Destroy]

You have to go out at some point though and until there’s a vaccine it’s gonna be Russian Roulette

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Search and Destroy, on 08 April 2020 - 07:38 PM, said:

If you lock everything down early what happens when the restrictions are lifted?

What happens when restrictions are lifted here?

It just comes back surely

I’m struggling to see the way out of this other than catching it and hoping for the best

Well Germany and South Korea took WHO advice and tested. And tested. And tested.

So let's see if they get a so called 'second wave'.

Then as China and others are ahead of us in their 'curves' they too will be indicators.

Fact is our government, like the US, had enough warnings and time yet failed to use them. Maybe, just perhaps, they'll now heed what happens elsewhere...

[Search & Destroy]

Singapore is spiking again, 2nd wave

You really can’t believe anything that comes out of China

This post has been edited by Search and Destroy: 08 April 2020 - 09:14 PM

[spireiterob]

The Earl of Chesterfield, on 08 April 2020 - 09:06 PM, said:

Well Germany and South Korea took WHO advice and tested. And tested. And tested.

So let's see if they get a so called 'second wave'.

Then as China and others are ahead of us in their 'curves' they too will be indicators.

Fact is our government, like the US, had enough warnings and time yet failed to use them. Maybe, just perhaps, they'll now heed what happens elsewhere...

Seen a spike in 'Astroturfing' the past couple of days on social media trying to control the narrative to get the lockdown here relaxed. Worries me because someone is paying for it, just hope they haven't got the Governments ear for everyone's sake.

This post has been edited by spireiterob: 08 April 2020 - 09:30 PM

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

Search and Destroy, on 08 April 2020 - 09:12 PM, said:

Singapore is spiking again, 2nd wave

You really can’t believe anything that comes out of China

Just watched a Sky report from China. Yeah, I'm sure they're censored, but do you honestly think Beijing can cover up more mass cases? From an already suspicious world?

Either way there're still all the others we can and should be learning from.

[Search & Destroy]

Not sure pal but to have no new cases in Wuhan with a population of 9m?

How can that make sense, the virus has gone?

And if Wuhan has been locked down so tightly the virus has died it only needs one person to come in from outside and it’s off again isn’t it?

[dim view]

Search and Destroy, on 08 April 2020 - 09:44 PM, said:

Not sure pal but to have no new cases in Wuhan with a population of 9m?

How can that make sense, the virus has gone?

And if Wuhan has been locked down so tightly the virus has died it only needs one person to come in from outside and it’s off again isn’t it?

Yep.

One optimistic thought I have is that the speed of modern scientific advancement is now so fast that the game can literally be changed almost overnight. So, whilst a proven vaccine might be a year away, simple tests for the virus's presence in the air and on surfaces will emerge both for the home and public places.

For example. The aircon in a plane is very efficient except that pilots are prone to turning them off to save fuel. That practice will be outlawed and a detection filter will be introduced.

[mr. smith]

dick of the day
https://www.facebook...NjM3Njk3NTE5Ng/


wakefield must be so proud.

[azul]

Brilliant opener from Emily Miatis and sits nicely with the private health debate

The BBC presenter said:

You do not survive the illness through fortitude and strength of character, whatever the prime minister’s colleagues will tell us, and the disease is not a great leveller – the consequences of which everyone, rich or poor, suffers the same.

She added:

Those on the front line right now; bus drivers and shelf-stackers, nurses, care home workers, hospital staff and shopkeepers are disproportionately the lower-paid members of our work force.

They are more likely to catch the disease because they are more exposed.

Those who live in tower blocks and small flats will find the lockdown tougher. Those in manual jobs will be unable to work from home.

This is a health issue with huge ramifications for social welfare, and it’s a welfare issue with huge ramifications for public health.

Wonder if she'll get disciplined


And here is the clip

https://twitter.com/...021250267656192

This post has been edited by azul: 09 April 2020 - 09:52 AM